Gowans007 said:If there going I could grab them if they could work out worth it & a bargain.
As far as I know, yes. Hibernate only consumes about 10% of power compared to when it is left on. Which is pretty good. It may even be less at this point. But Windows 7 starts up so quickly that there is very little difference with slight startup maintenance. I <3 it.AstroLad said:so i haven't owned a desktop in like ten years. what's the word on keeping it on now? i have a wireless usb kbm so i'll have to charge those. is just leaving it on hibernate ok?
MWS Natural said:Looking at purchasing an SSD and want to put them in a raid 0.
In Raid 0:
60gig + 60gig = 120gb or 60gb?
From my understanding, the data is split between the two drives. There is no redundancy, so 60+60=120MWS Natural said:Looking at purchasing an SSD and want to put them in a raid 0.
In Raid 0:
60gig + 60gig = 120gb or 60gb?
Befragen19 said:As far as I know, yes. Hibernate only consumes about 10% of power compared to when it is left on. Which is pretty good. It may even be less at this point. But Windows 7 starts up so quickly that there is very little difference with slight startup maintenance. I <3 it.
MWS Natural said:Thanks I read that but wasn't entirely sure. Two 60 or 80GB SSD's should be enough then.
Legjend said:I'm looking to upgrade my PC a bit but I'm not sure if it's worth it to just wait until I can build a brand new one. Here's my specs:
> Mainboard : Acer F690GVM
> Chipset : AMD RS690/RS690M
> Processor : AMD Athlon 64 X2 4000+ @ 2100 MHz
> Physical Memory : 3072 MB (3 x 1024 DDR2-SDRAM )
> Video Card : NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT (Microsoft Corporation - WDDM v1.1)
> Hard Disk : ST3250820AS (250 GB)
> DVD-Rom Drive : Optiarc DVD RW AD-7170S ATA Device
I don't have too much of a problem running the games that I want but a bit of a boost in games like Mirror's Edge and Fallout 3 as well as some upcoming releases would be great.
What do you guys think?
Steve Youngblood said:Hmm... okay, so I've been out of the game for quite some time in regards to following PC technology (I've just used consoles for gaming and laptops for productivity). However, the fiance has complained that my laptop (her's is broke) is too slow for PhotoShop use. "Let's get a newer, faster PC... and I think I'd rather have a desktop." To which I replied "let's do it!"
However, the P4 was cutting edge the last time I cared about PC technology. And even given that, I've never actually built a PC. For being a lifelong nerd, this is a sad fact that I need to rectify before I die. So, after skimming this thread and other forums, I put together this rough first pass when I should have been working. I'm sure there's some dumb/wrong choices in there, so any help (especially suggestions for shaving the cost down a tad without sacrificing too much quality) would be most appreciated. These are all from NewEgg. If my formatting sucks, let me know.
1. LG 22X DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model GH22LS50 LightScribe Support - OEM
Item #: N82E16827136168 - $27.99
2. Antec Sonata Elite Black 0.8mm cold rolled steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retai
Item #: N82E16811129057 $99.99 -$10.00 Instant = $89.99
3. Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM
Item #: N82E16822136319 $74.99
4. LG W2353V-PF Black 23" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Full HD 1080P Widescreen LCD Monitor - Retail
Item #: N82E16824005125 $249.99 -$40.00 Instant = $209.99
5. GIGABYTE GV-R487D5-1GD Radeon HD 4870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
Item #: N82E16814125256 $169.99
6. Rosewill Green Series RG700-S12 700W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V v2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power ... - Retail
Item #: N82E16817182191 $99.99 -$20.00 Instant = $79.99
7. G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL7D-4GBPI - Retail
Item #: N82E16820231200 $64.99
8 & 9. AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor Model HDZ955FBGIBOX - Retail
Item #: N82E16819103674
ASUS M4A79T Deluxe AM3 DDR3 AMD 790FX ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Item #: N82E16813131363
$454.99 -$60.00 Instant -$85.00 Combo $309.99
10. Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit for System Builders w/ Tech Guarantee - OEM
Item #: N82E16832116677 $109.99
11. Microsoft Gift - Windows 7 Release Candidate 1 x64 64-Bit - OEM
Item #: N82E16800996054 $0.00
Subtotal: $1,137.91
Well, it is supposed to come with the free upgrade. Am I better off just waiting and buying Windows 7 when it comes out?TouchMyBox said:Why not take the windows disk out of the purchase and just download yourself windows 7 RC and then buy a fancy copy of Win7 when it releases?
Steve Youngblood said:Well, it is supposed to come with the free upgrade. Am I better off just waiting and buying Windows 7 when it comes out?
Steve Youngblood said:So these will be a good substitutes for the aforementioned suggestions (also ditched Vista OEM):
1. OCZ Reaper HPC Edition 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model OCZ2RPR800C44GK - Retail
Item #: N82E16820227267 - $59.99 - $15.00 Instant = $44.99
2 & 3. AMD Phenom II X4 940 Deneb 3.0GHz Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core Black Edition Processor Model HDZ940XCGIBOX - Retail
Item #: N82E16819103471
BIOSTAR TA790GXB A2+ AM2+/AM2 AMD 790GX ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Item #: N82E16813138143 $299.98 - $25.00 Instant -$79.99 Combo = $194.99
4. Antec TruePower New TP-650 650W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.3 / EPS12V V2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE ... - Retail
Item #: N82E16817371021 $139.99 -$40.00 Instant = $99.99
Brings the total to $912.92.
You sure can! I apparently overlooked brain_stew suggesting the same thing.TheExodu5 said:Given your original budget, may I suggest the upgrade to the HD 4890?
If I'm only mildly intrigued (I say mildly because I already have World at War for the 360, and had considered, but never pulled the trigger on FarCry 2) which is the better card?TheExodu5 said:Here's another fantastic deal as well, this time for a GTX 275:
XFX GTX 275 - with free FarCry 2 and CoD: World at War
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150387
If you're interested in FC2 and CoD:WaW, I'd definitely recommend that GTX 275 over the HD 4890.
Steve Youngblood said:So these will be a good substitutes for the aforementioned suggestions (also ditched Vista OEM):
1. OCZ Reaper HPC Edition 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model OCZ2RPR800C44GK - Retail
Item #: N82E16820227267 - $59.99 - $15.00 Instant = $44.99
2 & 3. AMD Phenom II X4 940 Deneb 3.0GHz Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core Black Edition Processor Model HDZ940XCGIBOX - Retail
Item #: N82E16819103471
BIOSTAR TA790GXB A2+ AM2+/AM2 AMD 790GX ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Item #: N82E16813138143 $299.98 - $25.00 Instant -$79.99 Combo = $194.99
4. Antec TruePower New TP-650 650W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.3 / EPS12V V2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE ... - Retail
Item #: N82E16817371021 $139.99 -$40.00 Instant = $99.99
Brings the total to $912.92.
Steve Youngblood said:If I'm only mildly intrigued (I say mildly because I already have World at War for the 360, and had considered, but never pulled the trigger on FarCry 2) which is the better card?
So I shouldn't worry about upgrading to a different motherboard? I just selected this one because of the combo deal, but if it IS shitty then I don't mind ponying up a little more cash.brain_stew said:Edit: Holy shit! Didn't realise it was $195 for the pair. Yeah, it'll more than suffice at that price. Crazy.
That PSU is nice but a little pricey for something that isn't modular. If you've no plans for dual GPUs (and its not something I recommend) you could actuall have your PSU sorted for $40 after rebate:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341016
That's both modular and 80+ so it'll likely suit you better in the short-medium term.
Steve Youngblood said:So I shouldn't worry about upgrading to a different motherboard? I just selected this one because of the combo deal, but if it IS shitty then I don't mind ponying up a little more cash.
Thanks guys!
Steve Youngblood said:So I shouldn't worry about upgrading to a different motherboard? I just selected this one because of the combo deal, but if it IS shitty then I don't mind ponying up a little more cash.
Thanks guys!
Minsc said:Hibernate should consume no power. I can put my computer to hibernate, then unplug all the cables, move it, and reconnect the cables, and come out of hibernate with no problems.
The other benefit of RAID 0 SSDs is they scale almost perfectly, the drive will be almost exactly twice as fast, as if a normal SSD wasn't already enough![]()
Probably make more sense to just do 1 SSD, and then RAID 0 two fast mechanical drives, and end up with a ton of fast storage. I'm only running a 20 gig partition on my XP drive, hard to imagine I'd need more than 60 with Windows 7.
Nos_G said:Looks like the G2412HD has DVI and HDMI inputs adding to the additional cost.
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Steve Youngblood said:If I'm only mildly intrigued (I say mildly because I already have World at War for the 360, and had considered, but never pulled the trigger on FarCry 2) which is the better card?
TheExodu5 said:I'm sure it can't be that bad. I'd only worry about it if you plan on OC'ing. That's a smoking deal.
rohlfinator said:So I'm really itching to finally get into modern-quality PC gaming (mainly to start clearing out my backlog of Steam weekend deals that my laptop can't do justice). But I can't really justify buying a full-blown new PC at the moment. I'm toying around with the idea of stripping the guts out of my HTPC and adding a cheap 4850 (or similar) to get something that should tide me over at least until Lynnfield and DX11.
The only potential setback is the processor, which is an Athlon X2 4050e (2.1 GHz). It's only a year old, but it was cheap and I bought it for low-power HTPC duties and not for gaming. I know it has no chance of handling CPU-heavy stuff like Arma II, but would it be okay for most average games?
It might be a driver thing. I remember Mass Effect taking nearly three minutes to come back from alt-tabbing, until I changed driver versions. Are you using 186.18?DarthWoo said:So I installed my shiny new GTX260, being delighted that I didn't have to actually remove a drive cage in the process, just had to move the drives around to accommodate it. It has definitely provided a great improvement, but there are some quirks that I'm concerned about. I know it seems like a silly waste to be playing with such a card, but I do still play a Ragnarok Online private server a lot, but now I find that it takes a lot longer to alt-tab out of it than it did with my 9600GT. I could probably just play windowed to save time, but it seems a bit of an odd issue.
K.Jack said:It might be a driver thing. I remember Mass Effect taking nearly three minutes to come back from alt-tabbing, until I changed driver versions. Are you using 186.18?
Steve Youngblood said:So these will be a good substitutes for the aforementioned suggestions (also ditched Vista OEM):
1. OCZ Reaper HPC Edition 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model OCZ2RPR800C44GK - Retail
Item #: N82E16820227267 - $59.99 - $15.00 Instant = $44.99
2 & 3. AMD Phenom II X4 940 Deneb 3.0GHz Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core Black Edition Processor Model HDZ940XCGIBOX - Retail
Item #: N82E16819103471
BIOSTAR TA790GXB A2+ AM2+/AM2 AMD 790GX ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Item #: N82E16813138143 $299.98 - $25.00 Instant -$79.99 Combo = $194.99
4. Antec TruePower New TP-650 650W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.3 / EPS12V V2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE ... - Retail
Item #: N82E16817371021 $139.99 -$40.00 Instant = $99.99
Brings the total to $912.92.
Steve Youngblood said:If I'm only mildly intrigued (I say mildly because I already have World at War for the 360, and had considered, but never pulled the trigger on FarCry 2) which is the better card?
It's a Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H, AM2+ socket, so I'm pretty sure it'll take a Phenom II.brain_stew said:OC like crazy and it should manage even ARMA 2 just fine. Get 3ghz out of that thing and you're laughing.
Alternatively there's a very good chance the new Phenom iis will run on your motherboard, pick up X3 720 for $120 and you're laughing.
What's the model number of your motherboard?
Steve Youngblood said:TheHeretic: Thanks! I had not yet pulled the trigger.
2&2 said:What's a good amount of RAM nowadays? What are must-have and some future-proof amounts? What max capacity should I look for in a MB? Thanks.