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Official "I need a new PC!!" 2009 Edition

Hazaro

relies on auto-aim
DMczaf said:
About a week into my new built PC (my first time building my own) and I'm loving it. Playing L4D, Batman demo, and Bioshock at 60 fps with max settings at 1080p is so awesome. How did I go this long without it?! Never going to go with a laptop as my main computer again. I'll get a cheap and light notebook if I ever need a portable system for school.
Solid build :D
 

AstroLad

Hail to the KING baby
DMczaf said:
About a week into my new built PC (my first time building my own) and I'm loving it. Playing L4D, Batman demo, and Bioshock at 60 fps with max settings at 1080p is so awesome. How did I go this long without it?! Never going to go with a laptop as my main computer again. I'll get a cheap and light notebook if I ever need a portable system for school.
Yup, can't tell you how much I'm looking forward to AA with Physx on High at max settings. I don't think the PC vs. console impressions of the console version feeling comparatively "dead" will be too far off.
 

fanboi

Banned
Trax416 said:
Don't build a 1366 rig either. Wait for I5 and don't waste your money on performance you will never take advantage of.

If I'm into games and movies, why shouldn't I build a 775 or 1366 rig?

Also, is there any game that can support more than two cores?
 

yanhero

Member
fanboi said:
If I'm into games and movies, why shouldn't I build a 775 or 1366 rig?

Also, is there any game that can support more than two cores?

Don't build 775 because they are outdated and there won't be any new processors that uses that socket.

Don't build 1366 cause the new 1156 thats coming out next month should be cheaper, and is like 2% slower clock for clock.
 

NameGenerated

Who paid you to grab Dr. Pavel?
PC-GAF I need help, or at least advice.

I need to know the best way to power an HD4890 (this one).

Their is a slip that came with it saying good and bad ways to power it, however, the way I am doing it is not said for either good or bad.

My PSU has 2 6-pin hookups for PCI-E cards such as this one. Right now one is going into the card. The card also comes with 2 power adapters, an 8 pin and a 6 pin. I'm not sure how to power it all. The back of the card has a 6 pin slot and an 8 pin slot. Currently I have the 6 pin from my PSU going into the 6 pin on the card and the 8 pin adapter plugged in to one of the regular 4 pins from the PSU. I don't know if this is wrong or not, can anyone help me find a good way to power this? The slip recommends 2 6 pins from the PSU to go into the card, but, like I said, the card only has 1 6 pin with another 8 pin. It also recommends to use 2 8 pins from the PSU to go directly into the card. That doesn't make sense, the card doesn't have 2 8 pins. What should I do?

Sorry if this is confusing btw.


Edit: My PSU does have an 8 pin actually. Should I do the 6 pin and 8 pin directly from the case?
 
I have two 4870 1gb running in crossfire, I have one crossfire bridge connected. Should I have another one? The CCC states its in crossfire, but I dont know for sure if stuff is using both cards.
 

NameGenerated

Who paid you to grab Dr. Pavel?
I decided to do the 8 pin and 6 pin directly. Seems fine so far, I'm formatting my new HDD which is taking forever.

Kinda weird that all the pictures of the card show 2 6 pins, whereas mine has an 8.
 
NameGenerated said:
PC-GAF I need help, or at least advice.

You're using the 6-pin -> 8 pin adapter that uses a molex, right? That should be fine. Some folks used to have concerns about those things but it's pretty solid lately AFAIK
 
GAF, I was just given a new PC!! Thing is, it kinda sucks, so I need some advice. Here's what I know:

Dell Precision 360 from 2004
Pentium 4, 3.20 GHz
1.00 GB RAM
NVIDIA Quadro FX 500/600 PCI

I don't need anything like what most of you guys are putting together, but I would like to play the occasional strategy game. The Europa Universalis III demo chugs, so I'm guessing Civ IV isn't going to work for me either. Should a new video card get me to where I need to be? If so, what kind?

Back in 2000 I built a PC, then in 2004 I bought a PowerBook and totally lost touch with the PC world. I don't even know of any good web resources to get me started.
 

IceMarker

Member
ConsumerSquare said:
GAF, I was just given a new PC!! Thing is, it kinda sucks, so I need some advice. Here's what I know:

Dell Precision 360 from 2004
Pentium 4, 3.20 GHz
1.00 GB RAM
NVIDIA Quadro FX 500/600 PCI

I don't need anything like what most of you guys are putting together, but I would like to play the occasional strategy game. The Europa Universalis III demo chugs, so I'm guessing Civ IV isn't going to work for me either. Should a new video card get me to where I need to be? If so, what kind?

Back in 2000 I built a PC, then in 2004 I bought a PowerBook and totally lost touch with the PC world. I don't even know of any good web resources to get me started.
:lol :lol :lol

You sure you could run anything with that?
 

NameGenerated

Who paid you to grab Dr. Pavel?
I am retarded when it comes to anything about networking or internet or stuff like that.

I can't for the life of me get my computer to connect to my router and modem. I've tried pretty much everything I can in the Network Connection menu and the troubleshooter isn't helping. Please can someone help me. my computer is useless without the net. I'll give you a free code to get Stormrise if anyone gets me connected. Or I'll burn it in your honor because I heard it wasn't a very good game.
 

Firestorm

Member
NameGenerated said:
I am retarded when it comes to anything about networking or internet or stuff like that.

I can't for the life of me get my computer to connect to my router and modem. I've tried pretty much everything I can in the Network Connection menu and the troubleshooter isn't helping. Please can someone help me. my computer is useless without the net. I'll give you a free code to get Stormrise if anyone gets me connected. Or I'll burn it in your honor because I heard it wasn't a very good game.
Er, are you trying to do it wirelessly? If it's wired everything should just work once hooked up.

If wireless, get on a computer with internet, go to the website of the company who made the wireless chip (if it's a laptop, it's often intel), download the driver required (look up the specs of the pc/laptop), install it.
 

Firestorm

Member
NameGenerated said:
It's wired, ain't workin'.
Ethernet cable goes from modem into the input of the router right? The router only has one port where it can accept the wire. The other four are for your computers. That's where the ethernet cable should be going from the router to the computer.

Are you on XP, Vista, or 7? Make sure to enable Local Area Connection.
 
Connect the modem to the wall and run an ethernet cable directly from the modem to your computer. See if you get Internet access.

If you do, now you need to work the router in. Unplug the ethernet cable from your computer and plug it into your router's "Internet/Web/Whatever" port. Plug another ethernet cable into any of the router's (usually 4) numbered slots and plug the other end of that cable back into your computer.

Restart the modem and router, and if you get web access rejoice loudly. If not, find out what the IP address of your router is (usually 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.1). Put the IP address, or any other configuration address listed in the router's manual, into a browser. You'll be prompted for the default username/password, it should be listed in the manual.

Run any autoconfig stuff or follow the manual. If after all of that you don't seem to get access, you might have to clone your modem's MAC address into the router. I think it's modem to router, anyway, it's been a while since I've had to do this. Write down your modem's mac (it'll be on a sticker on the unit) and find the MAC cloning part of the router config page. Put in the modem's MAC, restart the modem and router, and pray.

Someone can add/alter/correct any of this, it's usually what I do when starting with new equipment.
 

NameGenerated

Who paid you to grab Dr. Pavel?
It's wired fine, I was just connected to it before I swapped hard drives. It also detects a connection "1394 Local Area Connection, Connected, Firewalled, 1394", but nothing will connect. Resetting did nothing. It won't allow me to repair either.
 

NameGenerated

Who paid you to grab Dr. Pavel?
I've tried that, it doesn't give me anything, same with ipconfig /renew.

Also it doesn't connect directly from the modem. This is so frustrating. I wish I could plug it in and have it just work. Wouldn't that be nice.
 

x3sphere

Member
Just got my new PC up and running today. Specs

CPU : Intel Core i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz
Motherboard: EVGA X58 SLI LE
GPU : NVIDIA GeForce GTX 275
RAM : OCZ 3x2GB Triple Channel @ 1600 MHz
Case: Antec 902
Drive: LG 22x DVD+RW
HDD: 2x1TB Western Digital Caviar Black
PSU: Corsair 750TX

This thing is smoking fast, even at stock. Going to leave it at 2.67GHz until I get a better cooler - using the Intel one at the moment. Playing L4D at 2560x1600 with 4xAA is glorious. Still have yet to try Crysis ;)
 
Okay...I've decided to upgrade my HT and PC setup. I've started with the networking side and bought a recertified Netgear 3500 Wireless N router (mostly for the four Gigabit Ethernet ports and increased range/speed) and a NAS (planning on setting up RAID1 1.5 TB).

But my main question is processors. I want to convert my current rig to a M$ Server, but I decided to go shopping for parts for a new rig and didn't see anything new on the Intel front. The top selling proc on Newegg is I7 920. I tried looking at the Intel 2009 Roadmap from February, and it doesn't seem like a major refresh is on the horizon (from the article I saw). Anyone got any info?

Ninja Edit:

http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/15/leaked-intel-roadmap-specs-upcoming-core-i5-and-i7-lynnfield-c/

Doesn't give any concrete window for when the new procs drop. I really want to setup a server, but I guess I can wait until the new processors drop along with the next round of video card updates.
 
Firestorm said:
Download the drivers for your network adapter?
Pretty sure it's this. Either install the drivers from your motherboard/network card's setup CD, or download them from another computer, and move them via USB/CD/whatever .
 
My friend is having some seemingly serious heat issues with his laptop. He has a 9700GT and while playing COD4 he can play fine for the first couple of minutes with above 100fps but after that it drops down to a consistent 8 or 10fps.

Monitoring his GPU temps it's at about 105 C and idle it hovers around 70 C.

Any ideas what could be causing this/solutions to fix it?
 

NameGenerated

Who paid you to grab Dr. Pavel?
Firestorm said:
Download the drivers for your network adapter?
RocketDarkness said:
Pretty sure it's this. Either install the drivers from your motherboard/network card's setup CD, or download them from another computer, and move them via USB/CD/whatever .
It was this, a person in the Rock Band thread helped me.

Thanks though. :D
 

rbenchley

Member
I'm building a HTPC/gaming rig (the computer will be hooked up to a 40" 1080p HDTV) and I could use some advice. Right now my my Newegg wishlist for the build looks like this:

CPU = AMD Phenom II X4 945 Deneb 3.0GHz Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Processor Model

Motherboard = GIGABYTE GA-MA770T-UD3P AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard

Memory = G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory

Hard Drive = Western Digital Caviar Green WD10EADS 1TB SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive

Video Card = SAPPHIRE Vapor-X Radeon HD 4870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card

Case = APEVIA Black SECC Steel / Aluminum X-MASTER-BK/500 ATX Media Center / HTPC Case (Case has a 500 watt power supply)

Optical Drive = LITE-ON Black 4X Blu-ray Reader SATA Model iHOS104-06

Media Center Remote = Gyration GYR4101US USB 2.4GHz Air Music Remote w/receiver

Flash Card Reader = BYTECC U2CR-318/Hub 52-in-1 USB 2.0 Card Reader

Cooling = GELID Solutions Slim Silence AM2 65mm Ball CPU Cooler

The total for this comes to about $800. Does anyone have any suggestions or am I on the right track? I don't mind spending a little more money, but not much more than I have set aside for the listed items. The main purpose is to act as a HTPC, but I'm eager to try out the PCSX2 and Dolphin emulators as well. I'm not a huge PC gamer but I assume that I could get decent performance out of Crysis or any other resource intensive game also.
 

Decado

Member
If I install a new internal hard-drive and transfer my most needed files from my old HD onto it, can I then reformat my old HD w/o any worry about deleting the files on the new HD (can I simply unplug the new HD)?

Also, can I install a different OS on each drive? XP for compatability and the new Windows 7? You'd select one or the other at startup or something?
 

Grayman

Member
Can anyone advise me on temperature threshholds and fan speeds for a GTX260? I have profiles working in Rivatuner but would like to make them the right profiles.

Here is what I did a quick test at to see if they worked.
100% @60C
80% @50-59C
60% @ 40-49C
40% @ <39C
Right now the card is being annoying at idle and hopping between 49 and 50, staying at 50 for a short burst then back to 49 for another minute.
 
Well if anyone is wondering how stable Windows 7 may be, here is a screenshot I just took with 3180 hours of uptime running the release candidate. I had to reboot it just now due to system update. =*(

It's my main PC so it's not just sitting there, it's heavily used for gaming and browsing, playing movies, music, etc. Anyway, check it out, I think thats around 132 days or so of continual uptime:

uptimes.jpg
 

J-Rod

Member
Friend came to visit this weekend wanting me to build him a PC. This is on order at newegg. I am hesitant about spending someone else's money, and wanted some validation. I had to put his cart together in a couple of sittings and had to change the RAM I originally added because it was OOS when he went to pay.

ASUS P6T Delux V2
Core i7 920
Corsair 1866 DDR3 3 x 2GB
Intel X25-M (primary)
Seagate 1TB (secondary)
2 x XFX 4870 1GB
Corsair 750w PSU
Cooler Master Hyper N 520
 

Firestorm

Member
J-Rod said:
Friend came to visit this weekend wanting me to build him a PC. This is on order at newegg. I am hesitant about spending someone else's money, and wanted some validation. I had to put his cart together in a couple of sitting and had to change the RAM I originally added because it was OOS when he went to pay.

ASUS P6T Delux V2
Core i7 920
Corsair 1866 DDR3 3 x 2GB
Intel X25-M (primary)
Seagate 1TB (secondary)
2 x XFX 4870 1GB
Corsair 750w PSU
Cooler Master
Can he wait like 2 weeks? New cards and CPUs.
 

J-Rod

Member
He already pulled the trigger. I did give him a heads up on the new cards, but he was fine with missing them for now as long as he is able to upgrade later. I didn't know about the new CPUs to tell him that though :(
 
I was wondering If it would be possible for me to just throw my steamapps folder onto my new hdd mainly to avoid downloading all my games again . seems like the logical thing to do but I'm hoping the steam install will just verify them against my account

Apologies for the awkward and trivial question but I'm hoping you guys will have experience :)
 

Firestorm

Member
MiloTheMilitant said:
I was wondering If it would be possible for me to just throw my steamapps folder onto my new hdd mainly to avoid downloading all my games again . seems like the logical thing to do but I'm hoping the steam install will just verify them against my account

Apologies for the awkward question but I guess it fits in here for better than the steam thread and you guys will have experience
I don't think so. Instead, use the "backup" option on Steam. Create Backup, check off the games you want backed up, insert HDD or DVDs or whatever you want, then put them in your new computer and restore from the backup.
 
Firestorm said:
I don't think so. Instead, use the "backup" option on Steam. Create Backup, check off the games you want backed up, insert HDD or DVDs or whatever you want, then put them in your new computer and restore from the backup.



***
Just noticed you said hdd . WIN !

Cheers
 
I think you can just copy the "steamapps" folder then restore it. when you launch steam it should find the games, and you just do a verify local files or something on each one and it works. But it never hurts to do a proper backup anyway so I wouldn't count on this method 100%...
 

evlcookie

but ever so delicious
I've always done the copy steamapps folder to another hdd and move them back, I thought that's how you were meant to do it :lol .

It will usually check the files / maybe download something for them after you load up steam for the first time. Apart from that i never had any issues with using that method.
 
Thanks , put my mind at ease . If I were to download all the games again it would probably take me over a week, non-stop ( 2 meg line , and ntl like to cap )

I'll do the backup just incase , but will try the steamapps first
 

Pctx

Banned
NameGenerated said:
-_-


I just bought an HD4890. Before so I asked if any new cards were coming out and nobody said anything. Grr....

The new DX11 cards were always slated for Q3/Q4 release of this year. No surprises there. Will be interesting to see if they they "WOW!" or "Whoa...". I'm not really expecting 2 GPU's, 1 PCI-e--- but who knows.
 

calza

Member
I'm going to uni in about two weeks and I was either thinking of building a new computer or buying a netbook. The problem is I know that in the next couple of months i5's will probably be out and maybe ati's new cards.

So at the moment I'm leaning more to spending about £300 on a netbook, most likely the Asus 1005, which I think seems the best but what is the general consensus on the best netbook?

So basically I'm just wondering if you guys think it would be better to hold out on building and go the netbook and then wait for the i5's and ati's 5xxx, as they will drive prices down yeah?

And UK gaf, where do you get your laptop bags from? I don't really one a drab looking one but so far i've only really seen manhattan portage, any alternatives?
 
Coming into a bit of cash at the end of the week so I finally would be able to get my SSD, was planning on two X-25 v2's in a raid 0. I hop over to newegg and see they have jacked the price to over twice of MSRP!!! Just my luck, I'll probably have to wait 2 months for the price to go back down =/
 
calza said:
I'm going to uni in about two weeks and I was either thinking of building a new computer or buying a netbook. The problem is I know that in the next couple of months i5's will probably be out and maybe ati's new cards.

So at the moment I'm leaning more to spending about £300 on a netbook, most likely the Asus 1005, which I think seems the best but what is the general consensus on the best netbook?

So basically I'm just wondering if you guys think it would be better to hold out on building and go the netbook and then wait for the i5's and ati's 5xxx, as they will drive prices down yeah?

And UK gaf, where do you get your laptop bags from? I don't really one a drab looking one but so far i've only really seen manhattan portage, any alternatives?

Do not rely on a net book as your primary computer, trust me on this.
 

Minsc

Gold Member
MWS Natural said:
Coming into a bit of cash at the end of the week so I finally would be able to get my SSD, was planning on two X-25 v2's in a raid 0. I hop over to newegg and see they have jacked the price to over twice of MSRP!!! Just my luck, I'll probably have to wait 2 months for the price to go back down =/

That and it seems they don't even sell the G2 anymore, at least it doesn't come up with a search for Intel X-25, those are just way overpriced G1s. And when you do a search by the part number ending with G2, it comes up as a deactivated item. I think you'll just have to look elsewhere for it... something's up with them.
 

K.Jack

Knowledge is power, guard it well
peppermints said:
My friend is having some seemingly serious heat issues with his laptop. He has a 9700GT and while playing COD4 he can play fine for the first couple of minutes with above 100fps but after that it drops down to a consistent 8 or 10fps.

Monitoring his GPU temps it's at about 105 C and idle it hovers around 70 C.

Any ideas what could be causing this/solutions to fix it?
Manufacturer and model?
 
I've ragging on you pc guys a bit, but now I too have come back to the light! Crysis Warhead and all the new MMOs persuaded me to buy a real computer:

Gigabyte GA-MA790XT-UD4P MoBo
AMD Phenom II x4 955BE
2x2Gb Corsair 1600MHz DDR3
Sapphire Radeon HD4890

Did I do good?
 
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