Kabuki Waq
Member
Dash said:
Its in Canadian Moneyz? But yea I just wanted a faster CPU.
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Its in Canadian Moneyz? But yea I just wanted a faster CPU.
Kabuki Waq said:
Canadian. I'm buying the exact same parts as you, yet it'll come to around 700-800 CAD when I'm done. As has said before, for gaming you'll see hardly any difference between the i5 750 and i7 920 as I don't think there's a single game out there that can take advantage of its hyperthreading. There's only a few non-gaming applications out there that might benefit from it.
Minsc
Gold Member
K.Jack said:
Definitely, the question was asked about maximum settings though, which all those games have some pretty obscene performance hitters when set past high. That's when the trouble comes, when you go for the beyond high settings (to the max, max settings). Even a 5870 isn't going to solve your problem then, I still see dips in Dawn of War 2 to nearly 30fps with a 5870 and i7 @ 3.4 ghz when there's millions of things happening at once.
As far as pricing, no one really knows, but I don't expect things to drop until Q2 2010 when the inventory is no longer an issue.
anyone have some insight regarding why my ps2->usb controller adapter isn't working properly with win7 64-bit? the d-pad is non-functional in all games i've tried so far. with analog on, i get d-pad on the analog stick (not what i want). in the device config, the d-pad registers as buttons 13-16, which seems fine, but it doesn't seem to register in games.
with xp, this adapter just worked. i'm sure i can hack custom configs together with joy2key, but there has to be a better way.
with xp, this adapter just worked. i'm sure i can hack custom configs together with joy2key, but there has to be a better way.
I do not live in the US, but a friend of mine will be there next january buying a HD 5870 for me (in Brazil they cost roughly 700 dollars). So:
1 - How much is the HD 5870 currently costing in the US; and
2 - Where can one easily buy it in New York City?
Another question, I do intend to use my PC as a DAC to listen to high fi music. What soundcard do you guys recommend?
1 - How much is the HD 5870 currently costing in the US; and
2 - Where can one easily buy it in New York City?
Another question, I do intend to use my PC as a DAC to listen to high fi music. What soundcard do you guys recommend?
evil solrac v3.0
Member
luiztfc said:
if you mean a store try JandR music and computer world.
K.Jack said:
Yeah. The rig I built yesterday on the parts I mentioned (i5 750, 4GB DDR3, Gigabyte P55 w/ 9800 GTX+) runs DA:O @ 1920 x 1080 w/ 4xAA easily. Even in the really crappy sections for framerate (i.e. Denerim Market) you hardly ever see numbers below 30 FPS. Otherwise it's trucking along around 50-70 FPS. Bioware needs to stop making new engines, though, and start fixing up the ones they have. This is a good engine that could be great with some optimization on their part.
SundaySounds
Banned
Spl1nter said:
yes
Hello GAF I hope you can help me with diagnosing my computer.
I was playing a game a few days ago when my computer had randomly turned off. When I tried to turn it on again the LED'a flashed on for a second or two and the computer powered down again. I unplugged and replugged the power cable and tried turning on my PC again and while it did power on, I smelled something like burning plastic coming from the pc so I turned it off again. As of now, when I try to turn on my PC, it powers up but there is no display and I hear a long beep followed by two short ones.
MSI K9A2 CF Motherboard
MSI 4890 1 GB
AMD Phenom II 945
4 GB Patriot RAM
I was playing a game a few days ago when my computer had randomly turned off. When I tried to turn it on again the LED'a flashed on for a second or two and the computer powered down again. I unplugged and replugged the power cable and tried turning on my PC again and while it did power on, I smelled something like burning plastic coming from the pc so I turned it off again. As of now, when I try to turn on my PC, it powers up but there is no display and I hear a long beep followed by two short ones.
MSI K9A2 CF Motherboard
MSI 4890 1 GB
AMD Phenom II 945
4 GB Patriot RAM
So I placed my order at NCIX.com, and I was wondering if I made a mistake by not putting insurance on my option? It's only an extra $15.00, and losing $600.00 worth of equipment in the mail would be pretty shitty. Also, how long does NCIX usually take to price match and ship?
I should be doing hw
Member
Hey guys, I recently fell into an extra $200 and thought I should spend it on getting (hopefully) a bigger/better monitor seeing as I'm going to be looking at that the most. I was going to get the Asus VW246H orginally because that's the best bang for buck really with monitors at that size, quality and price.
Asus Prices
So with an extra $200 what can I get that is better and possibly larger than this, prefferably with an HDMI port. Or should I just leave it?
Asus Prices
So with an extra $200 what can I get that is better and possibly larger than this, prefferably with an HDMI port. Or should I just leave it?
MWS Natural
Member
Anyone have any experience with Lian Li cases? For the most part I hear they are good but wanted someone with hands on opinions.
MWS Natural said:
I have one of their solid aluminum cases. I like it alright, has very good thermal, but is not the most convenient of cases. The sides are a little unwieldy compared to my Antec 300. Personally I still like the 300 as one of the best all-around cases given the price (unless you are going to run more than air for cooling).
fatigues_gasolini
Member
I dont have cable, and instead want to stream stuff from a small and cheap pc to my tv through hdmi. Whats the cheapest way of doing it?
Himajin
Member
I'm very happy with my Lian Li A70. Great build quality, plenty of space, and heaps of options for customization. I get far better airflow than my last case, and the case fans are all dead quiet.
The one thing I'm not 100% happy with is how easy it is to get fingerprints all over the brushed aluminum. Still, it just sits under my desk, so not an issue for me.
If you've got the cash, and you see one that fits your criteria, I'd say you can't go wrong with a Lian Li.
The one thing I'm not 100% happy with is how easy it is to get fingerprints all over the brushed aluminum. Still, it just sits under my desk, so not an issue for me.
If you've got the cash, and you see one that fits your criteria, I'd say you can't go wrong with a Lian Li.
Jeff Stephen
Member
I currently have 550 watts to work with and I don't play enough games on PC to warrant a new build so...?
Gefore 9800GT or Radeon 4850?
I really don't wanna spend any more than $150.
Gefore 9800GT or Radeon 4850?
I really don't wanna spend any more than $150.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
Alucrid said:
Not much you can do, sometimes it'll go away on it's own but for the most part you're just stuck with it. I think there is some program you can try but it also has a chance of damaging the monitor worse from what I remember.
You can try to massage it with a piece of cloth. Sounds stupid but it works.Alucrid said:
http://www.jscreenfix.com/faq/24-what-is-a-pixel-massage
Finally got off my lazy ass and put my after market cooler and ssd in the computer. Wow does having a ssd make overclocking trials easy. Reboots in 15s are awesome.
So far my i7 920 is probably going to overheat or become unstable, but running a trial at 3.9 Ghz with prime95 FFT setting. Upper 80s so far.
Used this guide.
http://hothardware.com/Articles/Overclocking-Intels-Core-i7-920-Processor/?page=4
So far my i7 920 is probably going to overheat or become unstable, but running a trial at 3.9 Ghz with prime95 FFT setting. Upper 80s so far.
Used this guide.
http://hothardware.com/Articles/Overclocking-Intels-Core-i7-920-Processor/?page=4
A little bit more, but should set you for the next year or two.Jeff Stephen said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161317&cm_re=5770\-_-14-161-317-_-Product
If you really can't go over after shipping and tax:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150448
TheHeretic
Banned
Jeff Stephen said:
Firestorms suggestions are solid, ideally grab a 5770. What's your CPU/RAM combo though, they have to be good enough to support such a GPU.
Jeff Stephen
Member
CPU AMD Athlon X2 with 4GB of memory.TheHeretic said:
I built this PC years ago thinking I'd never get back into PC gaming and then I come across Steam.
Zaptruder said:
I use core temp.
http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/
Sadly 3.9 was unstable but I will probably leave it cause it made it several hours in and real world performance isn't as demanding as these tests.
dionysus said:
Upper 80s is pretty hot, man. Even if that is under full load w/ Prime95 that kind of temp will probably cut a good year or so off the processor's life.
That said, I have to think something is wrong with how you installed your aftermarket cooler; that seems really hot for such an OC to me. I have an i5 750 that is still sitting with the stock cooler and with a similar jump from stock speeds I only hit 79-81c under extended load. I didn't keep that OC since I'm still waiting for a new fan to arrive but with an aftermarket cooler and arctic silver rather than the stock thermal paste, you probably shouldn't be hitting those temps.
TouchMyBox
Member
Firestorm said:
Of course, the 5770 is a solid player at even 1080p. At 1280x1024, you can go a lot cheaper than a 5770, I got my buddy a 4770 for $99 because he only plays at 1280x1024 and it serves him absolutely fine in l4d2 and tf2.
dionysus said:
Eh, is an extra 1-2 fps in games really worth crashing right in the middle of a L4D campaign? :\
brain_stew
Member
cryptic said:
On the cheaper end of the scale, you won't get much more bang for your buck than you get from this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835207004&cm_re=sunbeam-_-35-207-004-_-Product
DevelopmentArrested
Banned
need a quick review of the Samsung 2343 or 2243.. Can get either for under 200$ (Canada). I might just settle for the 2243 since it doesn't have a weird native rez.
ZombieSupaStar
Member
friend is making his first pc, wants it cheap but some gaming if possible (has a monitor, and my old 6800gt if need be, yes its old but its better than integrated)
heres what he has so far, any glaring omissions or substitutions let me know pls
CPU:
AMD Athlon II X2 250 Regor 3.0GHz Socket AM3 65W Dual-Core Processor Model ADX250OCGQBOX
Motherboard:
GIGABYTE GA-MA770T-UD3P AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard
PSU:
OCZ Fatal1ty OCZ550FTY 550W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Modular Active PFC Power Supply
Ram:
Crucial 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1066 (PC3 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model CT2KIT25664BA1067
Case:
APEVIA X-CRUISER2-BK Black SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
HD:
Western Digital Caviar Blue WD3200AAJS 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
he looking at 500 max, and he just made this list himself, I dont have time at the moment to go over it, so if you guys have a go to "OMG AWESOME RIG" for under 500 feel free to tell me to use that over this.
heres what he has so far, any glaring omissions or substitutions let me know pls
CPU:
AMD Athlon II X2 250 Regor 3.0GHz Socket AM3 65W Dual-Core Processor Model ADX250OCGQBOX
Motherboard:
GIGABYTE GA-MA770T-UD3P AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard
PSU:
OCZ Fatal1ty OCZ550FTY 550W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Modular Active PFC Power Supply
Ram:
Crucial 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1066 (PC3 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model CT2KIT25664BA1067
Case:
APEVIA X-CRUISER2-BK Black SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
HD:
Western Digital Caviar Blue WD3200AAJS 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
he looking at 500 max, and he just made this list himself, I dont have time at the moment to go over it, so if you guys have a go to "OMG AWESOME RIG" for under 500 feel free to tell me to use that over this.
brain_stew
Member
ZombieSupaStar said:
Get him a new GPU, even a ~$60 4670 will utterly obliterate that old 6800GT, and honestly, modern integrated cards and too far off beating it out either with hugely reduced power consumption, video acceleration and HDMI audio.
brain_stew said:
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=41337&vpn=RR-B10-212P-GP&manufacture=COOLERMASTER From what I've read this has the best price/performance ratio. Comes close to matching the performance of those twice its price. It has the added benefit of being able to fit on 1156, unlike a lot of other coolers.
TouchMyBox
Member
So, I just ordered an OCZ Agility 60GB SSD for some reason.
I heard that windows 7 is build for SSDs, does this mean that I don't have to manually disable things like indexing and superfetch and auto-defrag? or are all of those things still enabled by default? Anything else I should know about this thing?
I heard that windows 7 is build for SSDs, does this mean that I don't have to manually disable things like indexing and superfetch and auto-defrag? or are all of those things still enabled by default? Anything else I should know about this thing?
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
Win7 has a feature called trim, which basically lets the SSD know which pieces of memory have been designated for deletion. This prevents performance degradation over time. You shouldn't have to do anything if you have the right firmware.TouchMyBox said:
BravoSuperStar
Member
TouchMyBox said:
Win7 should realize it's an SSD during the install and set itself up accordingly. I just installed win7 home premium 64bit on an intel 80gb SSD with the new trim supporting firmware. Was as painless as could be, and super fast! I'll never go back to a platter drive for my OS/boot disk again.
ZombieSupaStar
Member
brain_stew said:
so what about the other stuff? is it ok?
HappyBivouac
Member
Question for PC GAF:
I'm looking to do a fairly decent upgrade of my PC in preparation of FFXIV's release next year, and hopefully do it on the cheap, say under $400. I'm okay with running things at middle settings for now and stretched resolutions are fine. (1920x1080 monitor) With what's in my system right now I'm definitely looking at a new motherboard, CPU, memory and GPU. I've got a Thermaltake 430W power supply that I'd rather not have to replace.
I don't know a whole lot about building PCs but I've messed around a little bit. Here's what I'm looking at getting right now:
Motherboard & CPU bundle: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.308581
-ASUS M4A785-M AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 785G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
-AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor
GPU & Memory bundle: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.300049
-ASUS ENGT240/DI/1GD3/A GeForce GT 240 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card
-CORSAIR XMS3 DHX 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TW3X4G1600C9DHX
$397 shipped on newegg
My biggest concerns are :
a) is there something I'm not aware of that I'll be missing out on by going micro ATX? They're cheaper and I kind of want to in the future turn this into a middle-end mini gaming PC that I can easily transport.
b) Is the GT 240 really going to get me where I want to be? I know it's not going to push max settings but how does it hold up if I'll just wanna be able to play games at average settings for the next year or two? I'm sure it'll be a significant upgrade over the 7600 GS I've got right now.
I'm looking to do a fairly decent upgrade of my PC in preparation of FFXIV's release next year, and hopefully do it on the cheap, say under $400. I'm okay with running things at middle settings for now and stretched resolutions are fine. (1920x1080 monitor) With what's in my system right now I'm definitely looking at a new motherboard, CPU, memory and GPU. I've got a Thermaltake 430W power supply that I'd rather not have to replace.
I don't know a whole lot about building PCs but I've messed around a little bit. Here's what I'm looking at getting right now:
Motherboard & CPU bundle: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.308581
-ASUS M4A785-M AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 785G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
-AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor
GPU & Memory bundle: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.300049
-ASUS ENGT240/DI/1GD3/A GeForce GT 240 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card
-CORSAIR XMS3 DHX 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TW3X4G1600C9DHX
$397 shipped on newegg
My biggest concerns are :
a) is there something I'm not aware of that I'll be missing out on by going micro ATX? They're cheaper and I kind of want to in the future turn this into a middle-end mini gaming PC that I can easily transport.
b) Is the GT 240 really going to get me where I want to be? I know it's not going to push max settings but how does it hold up if I'll just wanna be able to play games at average settings for the next year or two? I'm sure it'll be a significant upgrade over the 7600 GS I've got right now.
CPU+GPU: Phenom II x2 550 + Gigabyte 4670 - $163.99 - $10 MIRZombieSupaStar said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.300852
Motherboard: Gigabyte MA770T-UD3P - $79.99 - $10 MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16813128392
Power Supply: OCZ ModXStream - $59.99 - $20 MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341016
RAM: G.SKILL Rijaws Series 2x2GB - $89.99 after coupon code on page
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231193
Case: Antec 300 - $54.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042
HDD: 500GB Samsung F3 - $54.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152181
DVD: Sony Optiarc Black - $26.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118030
Total: $530.93 - $40 MIR = $490.93
What resolution is the monitor? Too bad he can't do another $70 - $90 or he could get a 5750 or 5750 + X3 720=)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.300900
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.300899
HappyBivouac said:
One thing the P55 chipset mobos has taught me is that mATX is not an issue anymore from a performance standpoint. I picked up a Gigabyte P55M-UD2 and it really is an excellent board that has all the OC features and build quality I generally expect out of their full ATX boards. Really it's more about space and how much you need to expand into. I personally run my gaming rigs very lean so it is of no concern to me, I probably won't even use any of the other PCI-E slots on the board aside from my video card.