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Official "I need a new PC!!" 2009 Edition
- Thread starter VictimOfGrief
- Start date
Urge to build a new rig...rising....rising!
How bad, I told myself I would just get an iMac (24") if I were to get a whole new computer because of the space/footprint it takes up (which is getting more important to me as I get older) but here I am, my PC blood boiling at the thought of a new rig (and pass my current one to my g/f).
How bad, I told myself I would just get an iMac (24") if I were to get a whole new computer because of the space/footprint it takes up (which is getting more important to me as I get older) but here I am, my PC blood boiling at the thought of a new rig (and pass my current one to my g/f).
Ahh man... Victim of Grief got banned? Well if you're reading this many thanks for answering my questions ,hope you make it back soon. Just measured my case and yes it'll fit the card,again thanks for the info. Also - my power supply is a 550W Corsair power supply that I bought a few weeks back so I'm ok in that area.
I have one more question,please someone answer it if you can.
My manual says I have two 6 pin PCI-E connectors on the power supply.
1 is 6,the other is PCI-E+2. Ok, am I correct in assuming that the one with 8 can still be used as a basic 6 pin connector? I can maybe snap them off,turning it into a 6 pin PCI-E?
I have one more question,please someone answer it if you can.
My manual says I have two 6 pin PCI-E connectors on the power supply.
1 is 6,the other is PCI-E+2. Ok, am I correct in assuming that the one with 8 can still be used as a basic 6 pin connector? I can maybe snap them off,turning it into a 6 pin PCI-E?
Crazymoogle
Member
Angelus said:
It's a 6 pin +2 right? Then yeah, just ignore the extra two pins - let em float - because it's a 6 pin connector for your purposes. It seems that a variety of PSUs these days ship with cables or adapters for 6+2 in case you need the flexibility of going 8-pin or 6-pin. I really don't recommend altering the cables otherwise...
(sometimes video cards may come with an 8-6 converter too, guess it depends on your situation.)
evil solrac v3.0
Member
dumb move victim_of_grief, don't go into political threads. if you don't like something IRL then don't take your frustrations out on the forum.
MWS Natural
Member
Angelus said:
vadergifnoo!!
Man I haven battling this damn processor for a day now I can't get a decent stable clock under OCCT =/
rohlfinator
Member
I'm not familiar with either, but based on the 3DMark score at Notebookcheck.net, it looks like the 4570 is about twice as powerful.iam.rass said:
I'm thinking about upgrading. Maybe just the video card. Given my current rig, would it be worthwhile (BTW, my CPU is overclocked...but I'm not sure if the listed speed is correct)? Adding in another internal HD is something else I'm planning to do (I'm constantly running out of HD space).
Core2 Duo E6300 Dual Core Processor LGA775 Conroe 1.86GHZ 1066FSB 2MB Retail
Sapphire Radeon X1950 XT 625MHZ PCI-E 256MB GDDR3 Dual DVI-I HDCP HDTV Out VIVO OEM Video Card
Gigabyte GA-965P-S3 ATX LGA775 Conroe P965 DDR2 PCI-E16 3PCI-E1 3PCI SATA2 GBLAN Audio Motherboard
OCZ Gold XTC PC2-6400 2GB 2X1GB DDR2-800 CL5-5-5-12 240PIN DIMM Dual Channel Memory Kit
Coolermaster CAC-T05 Centurion 5 Aluminum ATX Tower Case 5X5.25 1X3.5 4X3.5INT SILVER-BLACK No PS
OCZ GameXStream 700W ATX12V 24PIN SLI Ready Active PFC ATX Power Supply 120MM Fan Black
Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 320GB SATA2 3GB/S 7200RPM 16MB Cache NCQ Hard Drive
Soundblaster Sound Card of Some Description
Core2 Duo E6300 Dual Core Processor LGA775 Conroe 1.86GHZ 1066FSB 2MB Retail
Sapphire Radeon X1950 XT 625MHZ PCI-E 256MB GDDR3 Dual DVI-I HDCP HDTV Out VIVO OEM Video Card
Gigabyte GA-965P-S3 ATX LGA775 Conroe P965 DDR2 PCI-E16 3PCI-E1 3PCI SATA2 GBLAN Audio Motherboard
OCZ Gold XTC PC2-6400 2GB 2X1GB DDR2-800 CL5-5-5-12 240PIN DIMM Dual Channel Memory Kit
Coolermaster CAC-T05 Centurion 5 Aluminum ATX Tower Case 5X5.25 1X3.5 4X3.5INT SILVER-BLACK No PS
OCZ GameXStream 700W ATX12V 24PIN SLI Ready Active PFC ATX Power Supply 120MM Fan Black
Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 320GB SATA2 3GB/S 7200RPM 16MB Cache NCQ Hard Drive
Soundblaster Sound Card of Some Description
Ok, so I'm having an issue, maybe some people know about it.
I got a DVI-HDMI adapter to connect my monitor to my PC via HDMI. I have both Vista and XP on this PC.
For some reason on XP via HDMI, I get underscan... the picture, even at 1920x1080, won't fit on my monitor and I get black borders. So I go into Catalyst Control Center and see an overscan setting. It was at 5% or something, so I set it to 0% and finally the picture fits to the monitor specs, no black borders. However, when I launch into specific games (in this case, I tested GTAIII, yes III, on Steam), I get the black borders again. But I quit back to desktop and it's back to normal again. I also tried Left 4 Dead and I didn't get the black borders after setting overscan to 0%. It seems that the overscan of 0% setting doesn't apply to everything.
The underscan problem isn't present at all on Vista.
I'm up to date on the Catalyst drivers and all of that. The problem could be with the video card itself or maybe the drivers. Any ideas?
I got a DVI-HDMI adapter to connect my monitor to my PC via HDMI. I have both Vista and XP on this PC.
For some reason on XP via HDMI, I get underscan... the picture, even at 1920x1080, won't fit on my monitor and I get black borders. So I go into Catalyst Control Center and see an overscan setting. It was at 5% or something, so I set it to 0% and finally the picture fits to the monitor specs, no black borders. However, when I launch into specific games (in this case, I tested GTAIII, yes III, on Steam), I get the black borders again. But I quit back to desktop and it's back to normal again. I also tried Left 4 Dead and I didn't get the black borders after setting overscan to 0%. It seems that the overscan of 0% setting doesn't apply to everything.
The underscan problem isn't present at all on Vista.
I'm up to date on the Catalyst drivers and all of that. The problem could be with the video card itself or maybe the drivers. Any ideas?
It sounds like a 1080p option, or monitor option is enabled to me.Strider2K99 said:
Try setting your monitor settings manually and that it's just using HDMI as a video source and not as some HDTV picutre.
Your rig is a lot like my old oneDecado said:
If your CPU is around 3Ghz I would not worry about anything.
Pick up another 2GB for $25 or so and get a new video card if you desire one.
Everything else is just fine.
I'm running a 2 year old 965 board (P5B) here myself.
Set a voltage you get good temps with and see what you can pull off.MWS Natural said:
If your RAM is fast enough try a lower multiplier and a higher FSB.
What are you currently trying?
Betterzbarron said:
brain_stew
Member
iam.rass said:
The 4570 will be considerably faster and is not such a bad part for a laptop either. The 9200M is usually an integrated part, and not even Nvdiia's highest end integrated part at that.
Darklord said:
Most GPUs are built in the same factory if they follow the reference design. So there's nothing to worry about, I assume you're looking at the GTX 260 on Newegg for $160? If so, that's a reference design which means the only difference between it and other reference GTX 260s is the bundle, warranty, sticker and factory OC. So yeah, they're fine and ridiculous value at that.
All the cards are the same except for stickers and custom coolers.Darklord said:
The only thing that differs is warranty.
I was just suggesting that it might be outputting in some sort of HDTV mode.Strider2K99 said:
If you are in game and use your monitor auto-image adjust does that fix it?
godhandiscen
There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
Aww. :'(evil solrac v3.0 said:
We still have Hazaro and the rest of the guys though. I just hope it is not permanent. We already lost Kosma (last year's thread creator) this way.
brain_stew
Member
Jason said:
Well the major problem with the Ion as I see it is that if your codec does not support DVXA (a.k.a decoding on the GPU) that your restricted to Pentium 3 levels of decoding performance, which is no use for any sort of HD video. Thankfully the 9400m in conjunction with something like MPC - HC can decode most of the major HD codecs just fine (so long as you configure it correctly of course) but that does not equal the blanket HD decoding support of something like a Core 2 Duo. Of course a quick re-encoding should sort out most of your problems (and if you use Badaboom, the 9400m will do that for you and much quicker than the Atom ever could) but its something to bear in mind anyway.
The Ion IS a very interesting platform, have a tny little cheap box like that hooked up to your HDTV for HD video and HD classic gaming (provided by gog.com
) is a pretty damn alluring concept if they can nail the pricing.
godhandiscen
There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
Pics of my build:
The ASUS Rampage II Extreme along with the TRUE 120 and 2 fans.
My Corsair PSU along with the PC-X500 case.
The mobo inside the case along with the GTX295 and an extra GPU cooler installed.
The case under my desk.
My desk along with my monitors.
The ASUS Rampage II Extreme along with the TRUE 120 and 2 fans.
My Corsair PSU along with the PC-X500 case.
The mobo inside the case along with the GTX295 and an extra GPU cooler installed.
The case under my desk.
My desk along with my monitors.
brain_stew
Member
I think I've got my final settled GTX 260 clocks now. Going with:
Core: 702mhz
Shaders:: 1404mhz
Memory: 1268mhz
My Vantage GPU score is 10868 with them, which is very, very nice indeed.
Been playing quite a bit of Mirror's Edge and its a really stunning game on this card, the PhysX effects are a nice bonus as well.
Core: 702mhz
Shaders:: 1404mhz
Memory: 1268mhz
My Vantage GPU score is 10868 with them, which is very, very nice indeed.
Been playing quite a bit of Mirror's Edge and its a really stunning game on this card, the PhysX effects are a nice bonus as well.
godhandiscen
There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
I still think my cable management is sucky compared to some pros I've seen at [H]. Cable management is free and can make a difference in temperature.Tideas said:
brain_stew
Member
godhandiscen said:
But is a right pain in the arse to sort out. That's why I love my modular PSU, it has a separate unit that fits in your top 5.25" drive bay and distributes all SATA and IDE power cables from their rather than the PSU. Makes life much simpler. Only cost me £30 second hand as well. Bargain!
godhandiscen
There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
DAMN!brain_stew said:
just finished overclocking my first PC. took my E7400 to 3.35ghz. i didnt want to overdo it, and i read the ram i have isnt great for overclocking. running like a champ
but can someone help me figure out speedfan? i dont know why but i cant set it up right or something, i cant manually change the fans at all.
also, for anybody with ASUS mobos with 4-engine, does ur CPU run at like half speed when idle? CPUZ says my cpu is at like 1900 and it jumps from there to 3300 back and forth. when i use prime it stays at 3300 so i figured i have some kind of energy saving program going on. the only thing is the ASUS 4-engine program is automatically disabled when overclocking, and i cant find anything in the MOBO. any help?
but can someone help me figure out speedfan? i dont know why but i cant set it up right or something, i cant manually change the fans at all.
also, for anybody with ASUS mobos with 4-engine, does ur CPU run at like half speed when idle? CPUZ says my cpu is at like 1900 and it jumps from there to 3300 back and forth. when i use prime it stays at 3300 so i figured i have some kind of energy saving program going on. the only thing is the ASUS 4-engine program is automatically disabled when overclocking, and i cant find anything in the MOBO. any help?
brain_stew
Member
godhandiscen said:
Its the 520W version, I was well pleased with the deal. Apparently Thermaltake hold the patent for a modular design which splits up where the power is distributed from. Which is a shame, because its really quite an ingenious solution and it would be nice to see the like of Corsair and Seasonic produce modular options following the same principles.
It powers my highly OCed GTX 260, 3.5ghz E5200, 6GB RAM (4 DIMMS), DVDRW drive, 3 120mm LED case fans and two Samsung F1 drives just fine.
brain_stew
Member
TheFatOne said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127409
Better, cheaper and with a free copy of Far Cry 2.
You can thank me later.
MWS Natural
Member
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130464TheFatOne said:
Better company, different game (CoD: WaW), $5 more
I am not a fan of either game. :lol
brain_stew
Member
Hazaro said:
Um that's the 192 core version. The MSI has a huge factory OC as well, performance between them two cards is not at all comparable.
Totally Nvdia's fault though, they improved the card but didn't change the name, yet they manage to rename plenty of other cards that are the exact same as their predecessors.
The MSI has a 3 year warranty, which is more than you'd ever want, by the time three years is up the car will be worthless anyway. The only thing missing really is the lack of a stup up plan.
evil solrac v3.0
Member
brain_stew said:But is a right pain in the arse to sort out. That's why I love my modular PSU, it has a separate unit that fits in your top 5.25" drive bay and distributes all SATA and IDE power cables from their rather than the PSU. Makes life much simpler. Only cost me £30 second hand as well. Bargain!
what's the name of this PSU? how many watts and price? sorry for so many rapid fire questions but i've really been looking for a PSU that's similar.,
MWS Natural
Member
brain_stew
Member
evil solrac v3.0 said:
Its a year or two old and I don't think they sell them anymore which is why I got it so cheap. Its a 520w PSU (with two 15a, 12v rails and two PCIe 6 pin connectors) and yeah, its just about the best design for a PSU in terms of layout I've ever seen. Don't know why they stopped using the design, as it was a great differentiater, perhaps they were too expensive to make?
After looking at your case MWS, a GTX 260 is a definite no go, its far too big.
Edit: Damn apparently my PSU used to retail for $160!! Sure, that's 3 years ago when it launched but either way, it was still a bargain at a mere £30 delivered.
MSI warranty is a hassle, and other campany's simply will make it almost impossible for you to get another card.brain_stew said:
eVGA, XFX, BFG are all good Nvidia companies.
I would personally go for the eVGA card myself which is why I put it there, even though it has less SPUs.
brain_stew
Member
Hazaro said:
If you'd rather use one of them companies then this BFG would be my choice:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814143173
They even have their own version of EVGA's step up program now IIRC. Not sure if it applies to this card though.
Regardless, they're all reference designs, so long as the card has a warranty at all, they're legally obliged to fulfill it. I've never been bothered about specific board partners myself though I know some are.
Labombadog
Member
Great PC man!MWS Natural said:
BUT, this pic almost looks like the PC (or another source of light) itself have eyes! Almost look like its looking right at you, scary shit. :lol :lol
Hi guys,
Anyone recommend the Samsung T220HD?
My CRT is dying, and I'm looking for a new monitor.
Looking for one with HDMI to hook up my PS3 and my PC to one monitor, and the T220HD seems perfect.
So what do you think?
Anyone recommend the Samsung T220HD?
My CRT is dying, and I'm looking for a new monitor.
Looking for one with HDMI to hook up my PS3 and my PC to one monitor, and the T220HD seems perfect.
So what do you think?
brain_stew
Member
M.Bluth said:
If you're hooking it upto your PS3 you want a 16:9 1080p monitor, not a 16:10 monitor.
M.Bluth said:
Its great to me because I almost always use my computer in the morning with my lights off.
brain_stew said:
I would recommend this if it's within your budget. Keep in mind though this 22" isn't 1080p it's just short of it. I've heard some people complain with 16:10 monitors because the images stretches a little.
brain_stew
Member
CoilShot said:
As well they should!
16:9 1080p monitors can be had for less than $200 these days, so if he can afford this Samsung, then yes, he can afford one. Heck, basically the same Samsung monitor but with a 1080p resolution can be had for $170:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001308
Personally I'd recommend a 23" for such a high resolution but 21.5" is fine.
This reminds me, I believe the Samsung T220HD does have a 16:9 mode which prevents stretching
I did see a couple of 16:9 1080p monitors, but 1080p is too big for the size that I want (22"), and most games on the PS3 doesn't support 1080p anyway
Not to mention that I will lose a lot of precious fps on my pc games if I played them on 1080p, and I'm not a huge fan of scaling, or windowed mode
I did see a couple of 16:9 1080p monitors, but 1080p is too big for the size that I want (22"), and most games on the PS3 doesn't support 1080p anyway
Not to mention that I will lose a lot of precious fps on my pc games if I played them on 1080p, and I'm not a huge fan of scaling, or windowed mode