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Official "I need a new PC!!" 2009 Edition
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brain_stew
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M.Bluth said:Went to pick up the N520 today, lucky me they sold out =___= (sure there were only a few to begin with, but come on!)
Me:"So when will the next shipment arrive?"
Shop:"We have no idea, sir. You can buy the Zalman, it arrived yesterday" -__-
I had no choice but to pick up the Zlaman CNPS9900, picked up AS5 too, will install it tomorrow.
Now, I wanna make sure I have all what I will need. In case the thermal paste is caked on the CPU, can I remove it with alcohol wipes or nail polish remover?
I'll start reading this bit-tech guide on overclocking Core i7, if anyone got more guides or articles on the subject I will really appreciate it
I used nail polish remover and cotton wool pads on mine. Make sure its acetone based and doesn't have any nasty dies or perfumes or anything in it.
brain_stew said:
Now, that brings me to another issue of sorts. Right now, I'm running the Windows 7 beta which is set to expire here sooner or later (it auto verified I think). When it does, should I just go upgrade to Vista or go back down to Xp and wait?
Hi GAF. Couple questions:
I currently have a Core i7 920 system with 9gb RAM and a Radeon HD4850 512 card. My Dell monitor is native 1920x1200 and I'd like to have a system that can make gaming at that res a reality(outside of WoW).
I am basically asking if it is viable or worthwhile to upgrade my Radeon card to a Crossfire setup by adding an additional 4850. Or switching to a 4870 or newer card? Or even going the Nvidia route(I have no idea where the market stands on superiority right now). Is the 4850 still solid enough that any upgrade will not be beneficial at this time?
Thanks. Also, I need mouse recommendations. I'd prefer a wireless mouse, and am thinking of either the Microsoft Explorer Blutrack, or the Logitech MX1100. Thanks again!
I currently have a Core i7 920 system with 9gb RAM and a Radeon HD4850 512 card. My Dell monitor is native 1920x1200 and I'd like to have a system that can make gaming at that res a reality(outside of WoW).
I am basically asking if it is viable or worthwhile to upgrade my Radeon card to a Crossfire setup by adding an additional 4850. Or switching to a 4870 or newer card? Or even going the Nvidia route(I have no idea where the market stands on superiority right now). Is the 4850 still solid enough that any upgrade will not be beneficial at this time?
Thanks. Also, I need mouse recommendations. I'd prefer a wireless mouse, and am thinking of either the Microsoft Explorer Blutrack, or the Logitech MX1100. Thanks again!
Diablohead
Member
Just to add about monitors I been using a samsung lcd tv as a monitor for everything, tv, 360 and pc for years (since I live in a small flat) and it's scaler is quite good, never had a blurry picture running 720p from my 360 and the native resolution is 1400 x 900. Just a shame it's starting to get dead pixels now after a solid 3 years of use.
Broadbandito
Member
brain_stew said:
I'll see what I get for my bday this weekend. I might to the gtx 260 so i dont have to worry for another couple years
brain_stew
Member
Brandon F said:
4890, no question.
There's a good reason gamers stay the hell away from wireless mice. Logitech MX518 ets my 100% backing btw.
Minsc
Gold Member
brain_stew said:
A penny for your thoughts on the review of the MS wireless mouse I posted on the last page. Said something about extremely reduced lag. I've gone back and forth, and currently have a wired Logitech, but I really like the look of that MS keyboard and the customizable sensitivity on the mouse.
brain_stew said:
I'm rarely playing twitch games on my PC anymore though. WoW, NWN2, Witcher, Crysis(I use a 360 pad for that), and DoW2 are currently on my system. I want a wireless mostly so I can do some easy couch playing when I feel like hooking the PC to my home theater.
Also, I'll look into the 4890. Worthwhile to go crossfire with my current 4850? Or just do a 4890 solo? I only have a 550w PSU that might need updating as well.
Crazymoogle
Member
Kintaro said:
Kintaro, looks like Windows 7 RC will be publically available around May 5, which should give you another big chunk of time without having to go down to Vista/XP.
Zombie James
Banned
Sweet, my parts arrived. Too bad Purolator never drops stuff off at the door, i'll have to drive out and pick it up when I get home.
Nif said:I'm such a dumbass. I have an Antec P180 with the top vent, and I just spilled water over my desk and straight into the case while it was on.
I just built it a few months ago, too. =( Hoping it's only the GPU that's fucked, if anything. The motherboard was wet, and the GPU stopped most of it from dripping further onto the PSU and other cards. It dripped over the CPU's heatsink and under the motherboard, too, but the heatsink on the CPU is on pretty tight, and I don't think anything happened to it.
I've dried it all out as best I could, and put it under my desk lamp so anything I missed might dry faster. Don't think I'll touch it till tomorrow at the soonest.
Update: Got all the water out and let it dry over night. Works like a charm now.
Thanks, all.
So, I'm having some trouble right now. My laptop died, and as a student, that's awful news considering I've got tons of projects to finish and as a CS student I need some power to go with it. Now, I've been planning to get a decent computer for a while, but now it's become urgent. I've been browsing newegg for a suitable prebuilt system I could order, but I have no idea right now what I should look for.
I have a ~$1300 budget, for a computer not counting the screen. I want to play games decently, so I'd definitely want a quad-core; an i7 if possible but I see my chances getting down. I'd also like a decent GPU for gaming, I would be using a 21' screen max, so I have no idea what would be enough for that as evidently GTXs would be overkill (and overbudget).
This is what I've found so far:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883107877
I have heard some bad things about HP though, and I'm scared to order and get a non-working system or something. It sounds pretty good, but then again I don't know about the GPU and, again those HP horror stories sound intimidating.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883113092
This one I asked about yesterday, but was ignored it seems I still have absolutely no idea what GTS 150 is. If someone has any idea of how it performs I'd be pleased to know, as since it is a i7 I'd be leaning towards this one, again, I'd be playing on a 19'/21' screen max.
Or, if anyone has another suggestion, that'd be welcome too. Here's hoping this post doesn't get ignored too.
Oh and also, if I order one of these, and pay for fedex overnight shipping, does that mean I will be getting the system the next day?
I have a ~$1300 budget, for a computer not counting the screen. I want to play games decently, so I'd definitely want a quad-core; an i7 if possible but I see my chances getting down. I'd also like a decent GPU for gaming, I would be using a 21' screen max, so I have no idea what would be enough for that as evidently GTXs would be overkill (and overbudget).
This is what I've found so far:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883107877
I have heard some bad things about HP though, and I'm scared to order and get a non-working system or something. It sounds pretty good, but then again I don't know about the GPU and, again those HP horror stories sound intimidating.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883113092
This one I asked about yesterday, but was ignored it seems
I still have absolutely no idea what GTS 150 is. If someone has any idea of how it performs I'd be pleased to know, as since it is a i7 I'd be leaning towards this one, again, I'd be playing on a 19'/21' screen max.Or, if anyone has another suggestion, that'd be welcome too. Here's hoping this post doesn't get ignored too.
Oh and also, if I order one of these, and pay for fedex overnight shipping, does that mean I will be getting the system the next day?
Fireblend said:So, I'm having some trouble right now. My laptop died, and as a student, that's awful news considering I've got tons of projects to finish and as a CS student I need some power to go with it. Now, I've been planning to get a decent computer for a while, but now it's become urgent. I've been browsing newegg for a suitable prebuilt system I could order, but I have no idea right now what I should look for.
I have a ~$1300 budget, for a computer not counting the screen. I want to play games decently, so I'd definitely want a quad-core; an i7 if possible but I see my chances getting down. I'd also like a decent GPU for gaming, I would be using a 21' screen max, so I have no idea what would be enough for that as evidently GTXs would be overkill (and overbudget).
This is what I've found so far:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883107877
I have heard some bad things about HP though, and I'm scared to order and get a non-working system or something. It sounds pretty good, but then again I don't know about the GPU and, again those HP horror stories sound intimidating.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883113092
This one I asked about yesterday, but was ignored it seems
Or, if anyone has another suggestion, that'd be welcome too. Here's hoping this post doesn't get ignored too.
Oh and also, if I order one of these, and pay for fedex overnight shipping, does that mean I will be getting the system the next day?
I actually own the Gateway FX6800 PC you linked. Only difference is that mine came with a Radeon HD4850 card instead of the NVIDIA GTS 150(which I know nothing about either, but hey it's a 1GB card!).
The PC itself is solid, whisper quiet with a great case design that makes any internal upgrades a cinch. Some of the added features are superfluous and unnecessary(how many memory card type readers does one REALLY need??)
Been very dependable so far and runs almost anything I throw at it extremely well. Even Crysis is very dependable on Ultra settings 1440x900(with slight dips if you move the res up). Dawn of War 2 just screams with everything maxed.
I've been happy with it and am considering slapping a Radeon 4890 into it soon.
godhandiscen
There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
I thouhgt this was the GTS250.K.Jack said:
Crazymoogle
Member
godhandiscen said:
GTS250 = 9800 GTX+
GTS150 = 9800 GT? with slower memory?
Not a lot of comparison detail but that's how it works out, I guess
Heyo, saw you complaining in the other thread.The Take Out Bandit said:
You can put together something in an mATX case if you would like that, but the case itself is going to cost a little more.
http://techreport.com/articles.x/16721/2
Substitute this RAM in (G.Skill):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231122
Substitute the GPU for one of these 4850's (XFX, Double Lifetime Warranty) or (HIS, STALKER: CS). Reason for that is if the cooler of the GPU is blocked temps could go up, and in a small case it's important to blow the hot air out the back, which is what these 2 cards do. In my personal choice I would get the XFX since the warranty helps resale value and I don't care much for STALKER: CS.
Here's a nice small case (ATX): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119195
Combine that with this PSU and you should be set just a little over $500:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139008
Enjoy max settings and great FPS
Broadbandito
Member
Broadbandito
Member
and would most people go with a gtx 260 over the ati 4870? I was looking at some reviews and benchmark tests and it seems the 4870 was almost better being played at 1920x1200. and the 4870 is only 512mb vs the nvidia being 896
MWS Natural
Member
Runs cooler than the reference and has a much quieter fan!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102825
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102825
Broadbandito
Member
Hazaro said:
ok, let me ask this way. My build is below. I am looking at
G.SKILL HK 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail to replace my ram and one of these 3 for my gfx card. 1 2 and 3.
I am also gonna get the cpu fan I was recommend to OC my CPU from 2.0 to 3.0. What card would fit best with my system and would run crysis the best at 1920x1200?
Broadbandito said:
Mr. Enigma
Member
On my box I built in 2005, the only problems I get with Vista is a bit of slowness. I don't ever get any errors.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130434Broadbandito said:
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150329
Both great companies, decide if the games are worth the money to you
XFX has double lifetime warranty which helps resale value.
The E4400 @ 3Ghz is fine.
Broadbandito
Member
I cant do the 260 anyways. only got the 500 watt power supply.
Broadbandito
Member
Hazaro said:
RAIDMAX SMILODON ATX-612WBP Black 1.0mm SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Foldout MB Computer Case With 500W Power Supply - Retail
I'm having a hard time telling the difference here...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009163
This monitor is $189.99 without the coupon.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009162
This one is the same or something, but a new stand. Newer model? It's $209.99
I know I'm sleepy and all, but is there a difference between the two I'm missing?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009163
This monitor is $189.99 without the coupon.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009162
This one is the same or something, but a new stand. Newer model? It's $209.99
I know I'm sleepy and all, but is there a difference between the two I'm missing?
Ehh, Raidmax PSU's. The GTX 260 is a relatively low power draw card, it should run fine as long as your PSU stays alive.Broadbandito said:
Check your model and see if it matches this info: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817152038
Or just post the ER? RE? number or model or whatever you can find on the label.
SpeakersKintaro said:
Broadbandito
Member
Hazaro said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811156062
says model number RX-500S (KY-600ATX) ATX12V
BravoSuperStar
Member
Kintaro said:
The 2nd one is a newer model and has built in speakers. I actually own one myself and recommend it.
Zombie James
Banned
Picked up my parts, got everything set up. Too late in the night to do any sort of OS install, just running a Memtest pass right now.
You know what I really fucking hate, though? Those stupid tiny little cables that you have to connect from the case to the motherboard. I thought I had fried something when it wouldn't turn on at first but I had mistakenly connected to wrong little wire into the wrong little plug. Fucking hell.
You know what I really fucking hate, though? Those stupid tiny little cables that you have to connect from the case to the motherboard. I thought I had fried something when it wouldn't turn on at first but I had mistakenly connected to wrong little wire into the wrong little plug. Fucking hell.
With a single 22A on the 12V that (combined with it being an old Raidmax) should not be powering your computer.Broadbandito said:
I would not personally install a GPU worth anything with this powering my rig.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817152029
If you can stretch for the Corsair 550w I would get that, if not then a Corsair 400w will do just fine.
Broadbandito
Member
Hazaro said:
that 400w will really hold it all up? Cause if so, ill just get that. id like to keep it under 300. Im still torn between the 4870 and the gtx 260.
Not for Crysis you shouldn't be.Broadbandito said:
If you CAN spend the extra you should (5 Year warranty + great service + should power any single GPU + CPU combo in upcoming years), maybe sell off Far Cry 2 and Cod: WaW from the deal to help.
If not then yes the 400w will cover you.
Ashhong said:
anybody? im thinking its the PSU. i found this corsair 550w for not too much more, should i just upgrade to this?
http://www.buy.com/prod/corsair-550...power-supply-corsair/q/loc/101/205852646.html
Corsair PSU fans turn very slowly, and very silently. They can because they are rated at 50C.Ashhong said:
Switching from one Cosair unit to another is probably not going to make a difference.
If a PSU change adds that much to your ambient temp I'm questioning what current fan configuration you have along with what time or room temp you took the measurement.
Hazaro said:
nothing to do with the fact that im using a PCI-e adapter that seems to only have 5 prongs inside instead of 6?
pretty much everything else has been the same. 90% of the time previously my gpu would idle at about 45-50, now its not going under 53, let alone 50.
right now i have 2 exhaust fans in the back, 1 intake on the side, and 1 exhaust on the top. more will be coming soon. all of the fans are running at like at least half power. previously, i didnt even have the one on the top.
all i know is that after changing PSU supplys, my GPU temp is higher, and my CPU fan is erratic. it keeps going up and down up and down and it sounds annoying. not a problem with too little power?
Broadbandito
Member
Hazaro said:
im gonna do the 4870 and the 400w power supply. You said it should be just fine and I really cant afford to spend anymore than what I am already. I was only gonna spend like 150 and that has doubled now so.
