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Official Jan 2008 NPD Thread - HW Shortages + Spectacular SW
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frankthurk
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Arthas said:
Would you like him to bet your account as well? You know to sweeten the pot?
Spotless Mind said:Hardware shortages is such a pitiful excuse. Sony is forwardly momentum-ing above the xbox brand.I wouldn't be surprised if Xbox 360 doesn't outsell them again.
The bigger software sales is such a crappy excuse as well. Just because PS3 has no top 10 games, doesn't mean that software sales arent as good as xbox 360 games.
You're delusional!
360 will outsell the PS3 next month, and if HW shortages persist than definitely by March
Hitler Stole My Potato
Banned
:lol @ Burnout Paradise
DevilWillcry
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No you can have fun by making fun of the PS3 fans, everyone in here is, but that was a little over the top.WrikaWrek said:
S
Shepherd
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Odysseus said:
Thanks for explaining. I am calm now.
Version 3.0
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Why are people touting this as a big victory for Sony? It's not as if they came in first--the Wii still outsold the PS3, and the DS still outsold the PSP. This reminds me of last January's "closing the gap" PR when the PSP was 'only' outsold by the DS by 30k instead of hundreds of thousands. As a matter of fact, have we seen Sony's PR? Maybe they'll use that term again.
Here are some hard numbers, which indicate the shortages weren't as severe as they seemed (unless the industry is up quite a bit over last year, which it may be):
These are last January's numbers, minus 1/5th to remove the extra week it had last year:
PS2: 239,482
GBA: 143,586
NDS: 191,095
PSP: 168,575
X360: 235,019
PS3: 194,843
Wii: 348,402
And these are this year's, from the OP:
PS2: 265,000
NDS: 252,000
PSP: 230,000
X360: 229,000
PS3: 270,000
Wii: 274,000
The 360 is almost flat from last year. Obviously demand is up, but it's not apparent just by the numbers. The DS is meaningless; it had shortages last year as well. So did the Wii, of course, but they were obviously worse this year. The PSP and PS3 are the big winners by percentage gain.
Here are some hard numbers, which indicate the shortages weren't as severe as they seemed (unless the industry is up quite a bit over last year, which it may be):
These are last January's numbers, minus 1/5th to remove the extra week it had last year:
PS2: 239,482
GBA: 143,586
NDS: 191,095
PSP: 168,575
X360: 235,019
PS3: 194,843
Wii: 348,402
And these are this year's, from the OP:
PS2: 265,000
NDS: 252,000
PSP: 230,000
X360: 229,000
PS3: 270,000
Wii: 274,000
The 360 is almost flat from last year. Obviously demand is up, but it's not apparent just by the numbers. The DS is meaningless; it had shortages last year as well. So did the Wii, of course, but they were obviously worse this year. The PSP and PS3 are the big winners by percentage gain.
drakesfortune
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In NE Wisconsin there are 360's almost everywhere I go, and the PS3 is regularly sold out at walmart. There's my anecdotal contribution.
Brianemone
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Those numbers are very very close. I think it shows that the offerings from all parties are very tempting.
Warm Machine
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Hitler Stole My Potato said:
Like I said, has Burnout ever sold better than these numbers before? I think its the best selling one so far especially when you add in the PS3 numbers what ever they are.
Segata Sanshiro said:
http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/news/microsoft-responds-to-npd-talks-shortages/?biz=1
"$159 million was spent on Xbox 360 games alone in January compared to $131 million on Wii and $80 million for PS3. (U.S. NPD, January)"
seattle6418 said:
I certainly never had that impression. I expected the PS3 to outsell the 360. We're still getting calls about 360's, and the shortage is still ongoing.
So yeah, careful with those ban bets guys.
Although PS3 sales are probably going to tank with the cancellation of the 80GB model.
_Alkaline_
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Man, we really need No More Heroes and Endless Ocean numbers.
Is there any way we can get them?
Is there any way we can get them?
jordan0386
Member
Wont live in the past.
To start of '08, 269k is the measuring stick for PS3. Lets see how they do for FEB.
PS3 1 Xbox 0. Thats the only real way to look at it.
To start of '08, 269k is the measuring stick for PS3. Lets see how they do for FEB.
PS3 1 Xbox 0. Thats the only real way to look at it.
vanguardian1 said:
No I just don't understand how they're pissing away sales, both could have been 400k+ this month. Apple manages to make millions of iPods. Phone companies manage to make millions of phones, a lot of which are more complicated than a DS (I would guess).
Both consoles are basically a different market, another league up from the competition, maybe they should think about redefining their manufacturing strategy to go along with how they've changed their design philosophy.
Is it really that difficult to fab more DS' and Wii's? Maybe they don't want to expand past their current manufacturing partners.
DevilWillcry
Member
Much betterWrikaWrek said:
WickedLaharl
Member
Mrbob said:
cuz sony and msft fans will never unite against the darkness swallowing the light
CrushDance
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The reason it IS a big deal for Sony is: They sold MORE thenn anyone expected, and sales have been going up. And with all these big games and services coming, it ccan only go up.Leondexter said:
get it?
frAntic_Frog
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Spotless Mind said:
i dont see why that notion is so utterly absurd and impossible.....its already starting to happen in europe and japan and now NA. pricedrop/good turnaround by sony ps3 marketing/increasingly more good exclusives and equal multiplatforms/the death of hd-dvd/relatively good hardware reliability
all these together puts ps3 at a more positive mindshare in peoples minds. i think it will only get better for the console in 2008
Well congrats ps3, you deserve to sell over 200K. What I'd be more interested to know is how many of those nearly 270,000 units sold to HDDVD owners selling off their collections after the warner announcement and going blu with the PS3. Also, the chances of the ps3 outselling the 360 in february , march , etc.
I'm not even gonna mention wii because well, they sold all that were shipped. It would have done 500,000 if nintendo could get them on shelves.
I"m actually more curious if the 360 has hit its monthly sales peak in north america, it actually is big news that it was the worst selling console for the month, are some gamers moving on to other hardware or was their simply no reason to buy a console in january ?
I'm not even gonna mention wii because well, they sold all that were shipped. It would have done 500,000 if nintendo could get them on shelves.
I"m actually more curious if the 360 has hit its monthly sales peak in north america, it actually is big news that it was the worst selling console for the month, are some gamers moving on to other hardware or was their simply no reason to buy a console in january ?
I gotta give props to sony for managing to beat 360/Wii but... in all fairness they have been supply constrained while sony has had PS3's sitting on shelves for months now.
I know right now we have been severely low on wii's selling out as soon as we get them in stock, and we don't even have any 360's in right now.
I hope the people that bought them are happy with their purchases at least, because I'm still struggling to find a good reason to buy a PS3 myself at the moment.
I know right now we have been severely low on wii's selling out as soon as we get them in stock, and we don't even have any 360's in right now.
I hope the people that bought them are happy with their purchases at least, because I'm still struggling to find a good reason to buy a PS3 myself at the moment.
Pai Pai Master
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Foxix said:
Your post is so very interesting.
AltogetherAndrews
Member
Dot50Cal said:
Yet comically, the local passive aggressive Xbox guard seems most interested in arguing that it's the Playstation guard that is seeing the real meltdowns.
