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Official Madden '13 Xbox 360 Online Franchise Thread: A chance to develop a dynasty!
- Thread starter FrenchMovieTheme
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Actually I still have access for some reason. Just to show the numbers. In real Life 2011 NFL season high ints was 7 and then it drops quickly. 2010 NFL season high ints was 8, with 3 7's and then drops.
2011 NFL season high sacks was 22, 19.5, 18 and then goes down.
Season 4:
Number of players at or above 7 interceptions was 7 with 2 at 10 or more.
Sacks: 2 players at 33 and 31 and then it is VERY much in line with RL at 16 and then drops.
Season 3:
Number of players at or above 7 interceptions was 20 with 4 at 10 or more
Sacks: 1 player at 32 the next is 16 and in line with real life again
Season 2:
Number of players at or above 7 interceptions was 11 with 1 above 10
Sacks: 1 at 25 and then 17 and in line with real life again
Season 1:
Number of players at or above 7 interceptions was 8 with 2 above 10
Sacks: 6 players at 9, way below real life.
Lot of non-sense I know, but only ONE player was out of whack in sack numbers except for season 4 where there was 2. If you are going to claim these crazy sack numbers are dooming our sim league I'd like to point out the INT numbers, guess we can take away manual INT's too.
2011 NFL season high sacks was 22, 19.5, 18 and then goes down.
Season 4:
Number of players at or above 7 interceptions was 7 with 2 at 10 or more.
Sacks: 2 players at 33 and 31 and then it is VERY much in line with RL at 16 and then drops.
Season 3:
Number of players at or above 7 interceptions was 20 with 4 at 10 or more
Sacks: 1 player at 32 the next is 16 and in line with real life again
Season 2:
Number of players at or above 7 interceptions was 11 with 1 above 10
Sacks: 1 at 25 and then 17 and in line with real life again
Season 1:
Number of players at or above 7 interceptions was 8 with 2 above 10
Sacks: 6 players at 9, way below real life.
Lot of non-sense I know, but only ONE player was out of whack in sack numbers except for season 4 where there was 2. If you are going to claim these crazy sack numbers are dooming our sim league I'd like to point out the INT numbers, guess we can take away manual INT's too.
Just FYI, Geno Atkins in final online rosters last year was way better than Cooper Fitz ever was. I'm fine losing DL play since I've always wanted to learn LB/S play, but I'd be sad he wouldn't ruin people 
Saying that INT numbers were inflated due to Sanjuro is just like how Cooper only had high numbers from like 6 games vs awful guards/centers.
Saying that INT numbers were inflated due to Sanjuro is just like how Cooper only had high numbers from like 6 games vs awful guards/centers.Just FYI, Geno Atkins in final online rosters last year was way better than Cooper Fitz ever was. I'm fine losing DL play since I've always wanted to learn LB/S play, but I'd be sad he wouldn't ruin people
Agreed
So what are you gonna tell CK to do since you've singled him out. Not play d-line? Just him? It wasn't just him. Alot of the league leaders in sacks were DT's or DE's at DT that were user controlled
Its not the same. Its not even close. Your basing one off numerical ratings. The other is people sucking / not giving a shit
goldlion054
Member
I have no idea what to do about CK's numbers that's for FMT and all of you to figure out, but again the other league leaders were all in line with the real nfl you can't argue that or make anything based off that, they played number wise JUST LIKE REAL LIFE. I don't know how I can say this any different. If you're going to eliminate an entire position because ONE player was out of whack from real life unlike the rest of the entire league then we have to eliminate more than that one position because others were out of whack also.
Also your argument about DE's and DT's being sack leaders is just insane because who else is suppose to lead the sacks, Defensive Backs? Come on now
This is also a semi-moot point because there's no way for us to go back to EVERY game and see how the INT's or Sacks happened. We're going purely off numbers here.
edit: Regarding you saying I'm singling CK out I'd like to point out this whole argument was because of his numbers, so everyone has singled his numbers out.
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
i agree with you! i personally don't want d-line play banned and i don't think it's as much of a problem as CB and others think it is. but it's good to have a healthy discussion!
some people feel that being a LB was cheesy. i've had people complain (even as recently as 10 seconds ago but this came up throughout the year) that people playing LB were cheesy because the offensive line would not account for you on running plays, and there was nothing "illegal" about manually blitzing in to stop a run.
people also think d-line takes no talent to play but everytime i have played d-line i just fall flat on my face or am totally unproductive. so there is some skill to timing of the moves and getting to the qb.
Not saying it isn't possible, I only played Rors once last year and don't remember much of it. I just remember a lot of DT from him in years past.
You're never going to get me to agree about DL play though, I've hated it ever since Gunstar would do the spread with the Eagles DL back when they had Kearse, it was truly laughable.
Pretty sure there are written records of those positions being overpowered through the season . Where's the DB thing is only being brought up as a counter by people because their position of choice is under attack.
Unfortunately there are people here who play D-line here in a way that isn't out of line (besides being a girl position to user) that may be effected. But what's the alternative? Am I gonna tell CK not to go for the qb on third down if he is within reach? Or to not play DE at DT? Or tell splat specifically not to user his rookie DT? And its more than them two. They are just front and center because of the numbers which are easy to argue
Unfortunately there are people here who play D-line here in a way that isn't out of line (besides being a girl position to user) that may be effected. But what's the alternative? Am I gonna tell CK not to go for the qb on third down if he is within reach? Or to not play DE at DT? Or tell splat specifically not to user his rookie DT? And its more than them two. They are just front and center because of the numbers which are easy to argue
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
I actually tried to look up the numbers but all the single season record stuff didnt work for me.
I honestly feel like the way some people in this league play LBer/S is way "cheesier" than the d-line play. I've had games where I didn't even bother running because the guy on the other side could shoot the gap so ridiculously faster and better than seems humanly possible. Meanwhile I had two games against Cooper Fitz and didn't fine him to be that problematic at all.
Basically I don't think we will ever all agree on anything.
You're still thinking about the PS2 days. I have played you as a safety (I don't even switch to LB against you) every game in the last few years.
Ask anyone who has played me regularly... Ask Luke. Ask Nightz. I played safety the last games against CB too... dunno what he's talking about. You guys are just seeing and remembering what you want to see/remember. "The truth is revealed..." lol
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
Rors - and I've played him a lot over the years - plays Safety/LB and then Dline usually in that order. My personal hunch is that Rors picks his defender based on two things:
- The specific play he called (i.e. I doubt he [or anyone in the league, really] will play a player with a man assignment
- The play type he is looking to take away (i.e. a Tight End, he'll play a LB in a zone, or he'll take a LB that was supposed to blitz on the play and cover with him and create extra coverage in that part of the field that he wants to take away).
I cant remember what you used against me. I was just posting in response to ramirez because it challenged what you said. I think i played you twice in madden 12? once was a scrimmage pre-league
i remember the last time we played i beat you 24-23
That game tore my heart out. You've had my number in the last few games we've played. And now I'm losing to you in Marvel too... I don't have anything anymore!
Yea, and just like LB/DB play, it's still risk/reward. I'm not getting free sacks on QBs like Vick (or smh, Kaepernick) because of some overpowered DE/DT positional imbalance. While I sometimes may get great quick pressure, if it's inside they have an open lane to the outside to scramble. Or if I do contain, they can slide up in the pocket and either throw or scramble up the gut. And if I leave a spy in to help contain that threat, they may still be able to complete a quick read to a TE or slot receiver. But then I also have a better chance of limiting the deep ball with quick pressure. It was hard as hell limiting Vick last season and coming away with a win (and a better passing performance by Peter Tanico I might add) in one of the head-to-head matchups--as it should be! (read: that MNF debacle from 2010).
I play man assign if it's TE, but not HB because I always leave them open since I ignore them. I started playing CB at the end, though.
Had a couple of ints, but I feel less in control because the other side of the field and/or the middle are open.And yes, I play based on what I'm trying to take away. I usually know what the other person is going to do, so I switch based on where I want him to go with the ball.
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Although, if I'm playing DL, my regular player is probably blitzing.
goldlion054
Member
Yes
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
i play man to man on a player but only on a slot receiver or RB. i've tried doing it against TE's and CB's on the outside but it never works out :/
actually me covering people doesn't work out most of the time anyways
actually me covering people doesn't work out most of the time anyways
Definitely more recent than the PS2 days, but whatever, lol.
"Since when" implied that you've never seen me play safety, but whatever, lol.
English, how does it work?
oh sht, I should check.. even though I can't play right now.
[edit] Didn't get an invite
How??
Hold A.
My entire defensive strategy if DL is banned.
worked for DCX
I signed up on their website and got the email today.
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
first off in the heat of the moment i wouldn't remember to do this anyways. secondly that's a bitch move. just as bad is on punt returns or open field stuff people will switch off their guy and let the cpu tackle you. take your open field beatings losers!
Worst punt return infraction remains manually dropping guys back for extra blocking
Meh, in a couple weeks open field tackles will be considered cheese and some clown will want them banned.
The life and times of a murderer!
Man, I should try that.