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Official Madden '17 PS4 Online League Thread: DOTA is dead, long live DOTA

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Splat

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I dunno what's wrong with our psn lists, but I'm done trying now. Anyone else around? I'll try removing you blue then re friending
I'll give it one more go if you can get me to show up
 
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ph33nix

MWO
Fuck

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I need me one of these
 
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Purple Cheeto

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This is the most Madden game of Madden ever.

91 combined punt return yards on 2 punts
A kick return TD of 100 yards
Another kick return of 50 yards
A 94 yard INT return for a TD
A 45 yard fumble recovery
2 50 yard catches
3 30 yard catches
A 35 yard TD pass from a kicker
0 rushes for over 15 yards
2 QB fumbles
3 missed XP
1 missed FG

That game had almost everything Madden has to offer.
 
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TheDrizzlerJ11

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You don't want to boot a fins fan. What would your excuse for not taking them then be?
(14-2) as Broncos, you talk shit to the fins owner while you pick your roster....
 
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ph33nix

MWO
TheDrizzlerJ11 said:
You don't want to boot a fins fan. What would your excuse for not taking them then be?
(14-2) as Broncos, you talk shit to the fins owner while you pick your roster....
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You're going to bring up that 14-2 season the same way Mavs fans bring up 2011, it's never happening again. Going 0-16 was more impressive to me, I'm not sure how often that's been done in this league.

If you really want me to take the Dolphins I'd be happy to. And you can have the Redskins.

Also what the fuck was the point of putting spoiler tags around that?
 
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TheDrizzlerJ11

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Dirk went to two finals... What? Terrible analogy.

And I went 0-16 with the team YOU didn't want to play for. Anyone else can talk shit, I mean I went 0-16, but it's a joke coming from you considering the circumstances.

Edit: I put it in spoiler tags cause it's 4 am!

And you need to calm down you gotta realize my tone, I'm in a lot better mood than you. I just whooped ass in poker.
 
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ph33nix

MWO
TheDrizzlerJ11 said:
Dirk went to two finals... What? Terrible analogy.

And I went 0-16 with the team YOU didn't want to play for. Anyone else can talk shit, I mean I went 0-16, but it's a joke coming from you considering the circumstances.

Edit: I put it in spoiler tags cause it's 4 am!

And you need to calm down you gotta realize my tone, I'm in a lot better mood than you. I just whooped ass in poker.
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I know you're in a really great mood, and I feel bad for trying to be a debbie downer your victory---it's not something that happens for you very often

Drizz, you've never once beaten me for the Dolphins, so you might want to chill out about any jokes. Because your excuse every year I took that ass from you is "It's too early in the season" so please STFU when I do you a favor and let you have the Dolphins easy
 
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TheDrizzlerJ11

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ph33nix said:
I know you're in a really great mood, and I feel bad for trying to be a debbie downer your victory---it's not something that happens for you very often

Drizz, you've never once beaten me for the Dolphins, so you might want to chill out about any jokes. Because your excuse every year I took that ass from you is "It's too early in the season" so please STFU when I do you a favor and let you have the Dolphins easy
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You did me a favor? I harassed you for not playing me for the no OLine, no HB, no WR, no LB, 1 CB Miami Dolphins. You were afraid of what you would do with them. Then you make fun of what I did with them because you don't know how to lose at poker?

Anyone else talking shit I'd just eat it, like you should when you catch every break and still lose in poker.
 
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ph33nix

MWO
TheDrizzlerJ11 said:
You did me a favor? I harassed you for not playing me for the no OLine, no HB, no WR, no LB, 1 CB Miami Dolphins. You were afraid of what you would do with them. Then you make fun of what I did with them because you don't know how to lose at poker?

Anyone else talking shit I'd just eat it, like you should when you catch every break and still lose in poker.
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Drizz, why do you keep pretending like I was ever afraid of you or the Dolphins? Like somehow you've chosen to run away with something that YOU made up.
I thought you were in a good mood but you're catching feelings LMFAO. Stop replying, hit the bong, and enjoy your victory. This night and that 14-2 season are things you can add to your resume to bring up every other night. Or perhaps you can write more fiction about my thinking to help yourself sleep better.
 
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Birdman02

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ph33nix said:
You're going to bring up that 14-2 season the same way Mavs fans bring up 2011, it's never happening again. Going 0-16 was more impressive to me, I'm not sure how often that's been done in this league.
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Why you gotta give Mavs fans shit? That run in 2011 was fun as hell, and we beat the big, bad super team. Plus, it's not like it was THAT long ago.

You don't even have to leave the city to find fans who really live in the past! Cowboys fans bring up the 90s in just about every football conversation!
 
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ph33nix

MWO
Birdman02 said:
Why you gotta give Mavs fans shit? That run in 2011 was fun as hell, and we beat the big, bad super team. Plus, it's not like it was THAT long ago.

You don't even have to leave the city to find fans who really live in the past! Cowboys fans bring up the 90s in just about every football conversation!
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People here have found a way to romanticize the hell out of that year in a painful manner

They'd have people thinking it was the greatest team of all time
 
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LJ11

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Greg said:
holy fuck
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There's a reason why they're dropping $1 million in Madden Tournaments this year.

MUT is CCM for the masses. They don't have time for drafts and scheduling games. Folks build teams the way they want with the money, or time, they spend. It's actually more fun than CCM in a lot of ways, especially with the Salary Cap Mode. Too bad it's hard to form a league that way.
 
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Smokey

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LJ11 said:
Set Up Your Bank Roll aka MUT Solos

Before you start working the Auction House (AH) you need a bankroll, and there’s a couple of ways to go about this. Option one is to go out and buy packs/bundles, spend a couple of hundred dollars, and sell whatever cards you pull on the AH, but that costs money and we’re riding the No-Money Spent wagon all the way to a 99 overall squad.

This brings us to Option 2, grind solos. It’s boring, you don’t want to do it, but you have to start somewhere, and this is the best option if you’re not going to reach into your own wallet. It’s early in the Madden season, so if you’re interested in getting into MUT as well as finding schemes for CCM, it’s not a bad option and it’s better than just hitting practice mode because the AI behaves differently in practice mode.

With that said, you also want to cheese the fuck out of the CPU, so our first goal is to find a cheap run play that works and eats clock. I recommend stretch plays, especially out of jumbo TE formations, spam the fuck out of it. Runs help you eat clock and get the objective done within reasonable time. When you start a solo make sure you have accelerated clock turned on, should be at 10 seconds. You’ll fly through solos this way. The CPU loves hitting the flats, I suggest a heavy coverage, rush 3 and make sure to have hard flats with purples behind the flats, aka Mable coverage.

So how much money do you need? Well that depends…

I once got sick of MUT, spent every single dime I had on an investment that went belly up, and had about 16k to my name. I got the urge to play again a few weeks later, worked the AH for a few weeks and I turned that 16k into about 2 million coins. I think it was easier to make coins that year because you couldn’t check the AH for what a card was worth. EA decided to add a lookup feature in Madden 16. You go to your binder, highlight the card, and hit the L1 button to see what the card is going for on the AH. This limited the amount of “snipes.” A snipe is a card purchased at rock bottom prices. Folks were now able to get an idea of what the market rate was for a particular card without doing any leg work. That doesn’t mean snipes were gone, there were just fewer.

Last season Smokey did some Captain Sets, these sets required limited 74 overall gold cards. He quickly realized what a pain they were to do. No one gives a shit about 74 overall cards, so in Madden 15 you could find these cards for 100-1000 coins, purchase them, and flip them for up to 100 times the purchase price. This was harder to do in 2016 because of the lookup function. That doesn’t mean they were gone for good. I flipped at least a two dozens of these rare gold cards, bought at 100-2000 coins, and sold many for mid five figures. My man DJ Fluker, who netted me 300k after sniping two of his cards for about 2k total, was probably my biggest money maker early in MUT16. Unfortunately, these sets are no longer in 17.

So why am I bringing this up? Don’t do sets, snipe collectibles for the sets.

Don’t do the legends sets, learn what the market is charging for the Champ Bailey gold card, and pounce on him when some nimrod thinks the base Bailey card that goes into the set is some trash 80 overall gold card. Snipe Bailey, flip on the AH, and slowly use the proceeds to purchase Bailey outright. That’s the name of the game, we don’t do sets unless we can make a profit on the set, and normally, if you can make a profit on the set, you may be able to make a bigger profit by selling individual pieces rather than the end product. You need to learn the market, learn what cards are going for. Two good sources are http://www.muthead.com/ and http://mutmanager.com/ . They keep good track of what cards are selling for, and the ebbs and flows of the market.

You still haven’t told us how much money we need?

Relax, I’m getting there. Let’s get some other basics out of the way first. Search filters are critical for sniping cards. We want to sort through various categories as fast as possible, and we want the cheapest price available. Intuition may tell you to search a particular category or set with Buy Now set from lowest to highest (selected by holding R2 + Square). You’d be extremely stupid to do this. But you told us we need to get the card as cheap as possible? It’s fine to search with Buy Now set from lowest to highest if you are looking at one specific card/item, and nothing else. If you’re looking for one specific card it’s fine. But let’s just say you’re looking for all WRs rated 90-95, early in the MUT season there may only by 5 WR with that rating. If you sort Buy It Now from low to high, you will only see the price of the least expensive WR, you’re missing out on other snipes. A 95 overall WR may come on the block for 70k, that normally sells for 150k, but since you have Buy It Now set from low to high you will only see that shitty 90 overall WR that is going for 50k. You just missed a snipe. So how do you sort the AH? We’re going to use the Newest option, sorted with the newest cards up top, and the older cards on the bottom. This is the best way to snipe a category that may contain several different items or players.

Back to the Bankroll

So now that we understand the basics, we can head out to the block and work the AH. A veteran can go out on the block with 50k and turn it into 150k in a couple of hours, but you don’t want to go in with just 50k if you’re new to the game, 80-100k is a better bet. Hell you can do well with 30k, but you’ll have more down time and may miss a snipe or two because your bankroll is tied up into a card on the block. Don’t panic sell, understand the market prices, look up the card on MUThead, and then sell it. Remember there’s a 10% tax on all sales, so understand your breakeven point. Don’t invest 50k into a card that only sells for 57k, you made almost nothing and tied up your bankroll because you didn’t factor in the tax.

But what do we snipe, we still don’t know where to go?

Programs and packs go hand in hand. Every couple of days EA releases new packs, and bundles. Today they released Flashback packs, with some Flashback toppers. A topper is an individual pack that contains whatever EA wants it to contain. Today it’s two flashback items. A flashback player is a player that returns to his glory days, though I’m not sure Nick Foles should be part of this group. Just goes to show you what a good coach Chip is! You need several collectibles and a badge to create a Flashback player. The packs that EA releases influences the market, you need to check the Store every day or so and see what packs are out, or you can check reddit/mut

So what happened to the market?

Well you had a flood of Flashback items on the AH, but EA also gave us a Solo Challenge that nets us a Flashback Badge. You can’t create a Flashback Player without the Badge, and you can’t buy the Badge. EA gave one out to everyone today. This Badge had everyone rushing to buy Collectibles to create players, so instead of a large supply of Flashback Collectibles on the Market you had the opposite. The market ate up all the supply, collectibles started to rise. That was a good profit opportunity if you got in early. This is how you work the AH, anticipate a change in the trend due to artificially created scenarios, EA can help you, and they can also fuck you. Just need to be on the right side of a trade.

So collectible prices shot up, Flashback Players must have gone up in Price!

Wrong. Take a look at one of the better receivers in the game, Keenan Allen.

http://www.muthead.com/17/players/prices/16013-keenan-allen/playstation-4/sales

Look at how the price just tanks. Before Flashbacks were out, he was about 80k, today he was down to as little as 60k. The collectibles to do the set went up, the players price went down. Snipe the collectibles, buy the player with proceeds, just like I said earlier. It will never fail you. Keep that in my mind when EA releases legend packs this weekend. Everyone loves Legend Packs, they contain the best players in the game for the most part.

There’s so much more to cover, but that’s a good primer. If you have questions, I probably have answers.

Here are some snipes. Not my own.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MaddenUltimateTeam/comments/4zjb2e/dez_snipe/

https://www.reddit.com/r/MaddenUltimateTeam/comments/4zlknm/sniped_this_beast/

Also going to link to Ashwin's Quick Reddit Guide. Learned a lot from watching him stream, and then combined his ideas with investment approaches which I may get into at a later date. Truth be told ashwin's system is good if you have time, but it requires time. Investment style flipping leaves you vulnerable to an EA Ass fucking.
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Woah

LJ for prez
 
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TheDrizzlerJ11

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Birdman02 said:
Why you gotta give Mavs fans shit? That run in 2011 was fun as hell, and we beat the big, bad super team. Plus, it's not like it was THAT long ago.

You don't even have to leave the city to find fans who really live in the past! Cowboys fans bring up the 90s in just about every football conversation!
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Romanticize the past? You're taking to a guy who cowardly ducks from his teams aweful roster and then thinks he graciously let me use the fins. You're also talking about a guy who just brought up the guys who upset his Heat 5 years ago. So much salt for one night of poker.


It's like you put up the bumpers in bowling and then talk shit cause I gutterballed. Actually it's like beating you in anything, and then you bring up that time I gutterballed a year ago while you were playing with bumpers in the alley next to me.
 
DCX

DCX

DCX
TheDrizzlerJ11 said:
Romanticize the past? You're taking to a guy who cowardly ducks from his teams aweful roster and then thinks he graciously let me use the fins. You're also talking about a guy who just brought up the guys who upset his Heat 5 years ago. So much salt for one night of poker.


It's like you put up the bumpers in bowling and then talk shit cause I gutterballed. Actually it's like beating you in anything, and then you bring up that time I gutterballed a year ago while you were playing with bumpers in the alley next to me.
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#doubledown

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