Official NFL 2011 Offseason Thread of OUR LONG NATIONAL NIGHTMARE IS OVER

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zychi

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Talon- said:
I like when posters conflate "everyone" with "ESPN."

Well, according to local Chicago radio, Major Wright is on his way to being a cross between Ronnie Lott and Ken Houston.
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i'm assuming the everyone comment is at me, i dont watch espn besides actual games. i watch the league channels. most of the experts, ie nfl.com and nfln guys had jets and cowboys in super bowl pre-season last year.

the major wright thing is hilarious to me, because i like the kid, but damn if theyre making him out to be the savior of the secondary. he could potentially be good, but he's not gonna do much when he's covering bowman's ass.
 
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Talon

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Not to mention Bears 2005-2010 MVP Brad Maynard leaving.

On a side note, you'll be hearing more of
Drop my drawers
Let 'em see my third leg
 
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Drakeon

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Apparently we're going after Kreutz, but not sure if he wants to play for us.

49ers make offer to Bears C Kreutz
Sources say the 49ers have offered Bears free agent Olin Kreutz more money than Chicago did but the 13-year veteran center isn’t thrilled by the prospect of playing for San Francisco. His agent may be using the 49ers for leverage the way QB Kurt Warner did a couple years ago.
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Source
 
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Xeke

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Drakeon said:
Not only that, he's arguing they're the 2nd best team in the NFC.
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zychi

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cuevas said:
I know you you were joking but since I have some time before I go workout I will entertain you.

-Stop pointing to last year and who won which division. THE BEARS HAVE REPEATED ONCE AS DIVISION CHAMPIONS IN 20 YEARS.
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again, reading comprehension.

if i have the packers above the bears, how would the bears win the division from my stance?

all of your points are made pointless by the fact that you think the bears will sweep the lions. the lions dline alone will help them split with the bears. you said it yourself, the bears oline isnt any better than last year, but i have faith in gabe.

the secondary is good enough with the dline the bears have. you seem to be forgetting the bears have 3 top tier defensive players in pep, briggs, and lachy. peppers changed the defense last year, and the bears still have speed, play on that shit field, and play cover 2.

it's simple.
 
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zychi

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Eric Walton said:
1. Never start a post by insulting someone's favorite team. I'm clearly a "Vikings" fan, so that clouds my judgment? We're talking about your shitty team, fuckwad. I can be objective as you need.

2. I realized Philly had down games. They also will have added consistency knowing Vick is the starter. Kolb isn't in camp. It's a different locker room now.

3. Did I rub Vick's balls? No, the guy was an amazing playmaker last year. He was a great quarterback last year. I'd be rubbing his balls if I anointed him King, or said he was Hall of Fame bound.

4. I like how you add in the "but I don't hate Vick!" line. That sounds to me like the, "But I have black friends!" line. Just shut the fuck up. You don't have to qualify or justify your statements after the fact, they're already shit.

5. Shut the fuck up and get out of this thread. I would've have a normal, reasoned discussion with you, but "Vikequeens fan"? You're cut out for ESPN boards, not NeoGAF. Please post somewhere else.
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like i said, no dialog. typical. one actual football point. the rest attacks. great job!
 
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Braylon won't be coming to the Jets says the New York Daily News. Looking forward to the Redskins grossly overpaying him!

Clayton says that Miami and Oakland are in the running for Zach Miller for whoever asked.
 
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jakncoke

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Eric Walton said:
You did call it. You even made it so! You are a prophet.

Take your talents to whatever scum-board will accept you. I will attack you, just as an antibiotic attacks an infection threatening the immune system. "Vikequeen" goes as far as "Oh he's a fudgepacker fan lol!" here.


We do not buy that shit. We are better than that. This is the last forum I can stand for football discussion. I will not have utter bullshit come in here and ruin the discussion.

You can talk about the Bears being great as much as you want. I love joke characters. But when you bring the level of discussion down, I do get offended. And I will attack you.
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Eric Walton
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cuevas. PhD.

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zychi said:
again, reading comprehension.

if i have the packers above the bears, how would the bears win the division from my stance?

all of your points are made pointless by the fact that you think the bears will sweep the lions. the lions dline alone will help them split with the bears. you said it yourself, the bears oline isnt any better than last year, but i have faith in gabe.

the secondary is good enough with the dline the bears have. you seem to be forgetting the bears have 3 top tier defensive players in pep, briggs, and lachy. peppers changed the defense last year, and the bears still have speed, play on that shit field, and play cover 2.

it's simple.
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You call out my "compression" but I never said the bears will sweep the lions, I was calling you out on not even paying attention to what the bears have done with lovie.

Leave.
 
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zychi

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Eric Walton said:
You did call it. You even made it so! You are a prophet.

Take your talents to whatever scum-board will accept you. I will attack you, just as an antibiotic attacks an infection threatening the immune system. "Vikequeen" goes as far as "Oh he's a fudgepacker fan lol!" here.


We do not buy that shit. We are better than that. This is the last forum I can stand for football discussion. I will not have utter bullshit come in here and ruin the discussion.

You can talk about the Bears being great as much as you want. I love joke characters. But when you bring the level of discussion down, I do get offended. And I will attack you.
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Yep, I brought the discussion down, but your first response to me was "Who the fuck are you?" Before I even said a word to you. Followed by 4 of 5 points attacking me.

Quality posting right there
Yet, cuevas and I just had discussion without any personal attacks.

You sure you shouldn't head to another forum?

e: well cuevas just ended that.
 
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FrenchMovieTheme

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everyone will crown someone in the off-season, it's just human nature. eagles appear to be on top of the trash heap but you still have to play the games.

now as far as the niners, we're in great shape to be in the running
for andrew luck!
 
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zychi

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cuevas said:
You call out my "compression" but I never said the bears will sweep the lions, I was calling you out on not even paying attention to what the bears have done with lovie.

Leave.
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dunno what "compression" is pointing at so..

- You say we are going to split with the Lions and Packers "like always" but haven't lost to the Lions since like '07 and Lovie actually has a really good record against the Packers.
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you are implying that the bears will sweep. otherwise you wouldn't bring this up. i state i think theyll split, you counter my argument with "haven't lost since." to me that's saying they're not gonna lose.

also, the bears should have lost game 1 against the lions last year, but obviously CJ got screwed out of a touchdown. again, theyll split imo.
 
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While I ding think they will be as good as zychi says they will, I do think the Bears will surprise again just like they did last year.
 
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FrenchMovieTheme said:
now as far as the niners, we're in great shape to be in the running for andrew luck!
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Don't hide from the truth! You should be proud of our utter incompetence. I can't wait to buy the Blu Ray box set "A Decade of Failure."
 
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Bread

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Soroc said:
Pats Gaf is this true?

Haynesworth fails his physical?

I called this if true!
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He failed his conditioning test, so he can't practice yet. Not a huge deal, we'll see if he takes weeks to get in shape like he did with the Redskins.
 
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yankeehater said:
GB showed last year that they are the kind of team that responds well to adversity. I expect them to be much better this year, last year they were very inconsistent early on, that wont happen again, they also had a ton of injuries so they can handle that. I hope you are right but I dont see any reason to expect them to fall off.
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Not much difference between 10-6 and 9-7.

Let's not go nuts.
 
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cuevas. PhD.

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zychi said:
dunno what "compression" is pointing at so..



you are implying that the bears will sweep. otherwise you wouldn't bring this up. i state i think theyll split, you counter my argument with "haven't lost since." to me that's saying they're not gonna lose.

also, the bears should have lost game 1 against the lions last year, but obviously CJ got screwed out of a touchdown. again, theyll split imo.
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I'm obviously typing on a phone, if you can't see it was meant to be comprehension then you're more of a lost cause than I thought.

If anything I feel more confident in getting the two lion wins than anything else. Yeah they have a great d-line, show me you can do something with it. Let's not forget its still about the entire team. The bears were still coming together the first game and the second time around took care of business. It might not be as easy but they haven't proven shit.
 
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FrenchMovieTheme said:
i feel like we should trade frank gore to the eagles for asante samuel. then trade them patrick willis for a 3rd round pick
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While you're at it, how about Lincoln Financial Field for Alex Smith?
 
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zychi

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cuevas, i agree with the confidence in getting the lions wins, but i'm just being realistic. on paper the lions have a decent team capable of beating any team in the nfc, but theyre obviously still the lions, and with that they always play the bears great.
 
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zychi

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I'm convinced Ocho was just bored in Cinci. If he had a real coach, like he does now, he'd be more focused. Even the "bad" things he did, it's not like he was throwing anyone under the bus ala TO, or not trying. He just wanted to win, and had fun trash talking whoever he was playing. There was a story a few years back where Chad was talking trash about Ray Lewis and Ray said that Ocho called Ray, before hand, to tell him what he was gonna do to hype up the game.

Dude just wants to win.
 
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Lunchbox said:
greenbay isnt making the playoffs

put money on it
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That makes no sense. Who else would come out of the North?

The Falcons are going to be this year's big regression team, everyone knows that.
 
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None of the teams in the NFC South has a really terrifying defense, although the Panthers is the best of the group for it. Not sure what they're planning to do at corner, though.

Falcons defense got wiped around by Kolb. And we all know the Saints defense fluctuates.
 
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Eric Walton said:
Nnamdi and Asante are both overrated, IMHO. But with DRC, that CB corps is the best in the league. With a pass rush (Eagles still have Trent Cole, yes?), that pass defense could be the best we've seen in a long time.
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Hardly overrated, but not just these guys but with a lot of players I'm waiting to see if the new CBA cap rules means a lot of fools are overpayed. Maybe not overrated but overpayed or wanting to much money in free agency because their mindset is still stuck in the old agreement.

One of the main reasons I'm hyped about the Ray Edwards deal to the Falcons was the contract wasn't OMFG redonkulous.

PS: Falcons are gonna regress by default purely because their regular season win total was so high last year. It'll be virtually impossible not to regress. Still a playoff team though either way.
 
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Eric Walton said:
You know what blew my mind today? I realized Vince Young is 28 years old. I can remember, for as long as he's been in the pros, defending his lack of maturity and consistency. My line of reasoning? I always fall back on, "Well, he'll grow up." I loved him at UT and he was certainly a leader there, so why shouldn't he mature into a leader of men in the pros? But he's 28. Fucking 28, and signing a back-up deal in Philly. I hope he can turn it around, but this was the first day that I really started to question my dedication to VY.
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When the talk started a couple days ago about his release Houston sportstalk had the Orangeblood fans screaming for the Texans to sign him to replace schaub.

I weep for some people in Houston.
 
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cuevas. PhD.

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Don't worry they will groom VY to be a very good QB, then trade Vick in 2 years and make him the starter. He will lead the eagles to 2 or 3 NFC championship losses.
 
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