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[Plinko]

been gone and away and just catching up on FA business. We have a legit LB corp now?? And the rest of the division got worse? Beautiful

I think the Vikings got a bit better, the Packers are still Super Bowl champs and the Bears got a lot worse.

It's going to be a tough division this year.

 

[Nemesis121]

The patriots have 2 #1 next year dont they?

With the new rookie cap i don't think they will give one up, when you can sign 2 number 1 for nothing....

 

[eznark]

I think the Vikings got a bit better, the Packers are still Super Bowl champs and the Bears got a lot worse.

It's going to be a tough division this year.

And you were sounding so reasonable.....

 

[goldlion054]

I think the Vikings got a bit better, the Packers are still Super Bowl champs and the Bears got a lot worse.

It's going to be a tough division this year.

I agree, the Packers are still top tier contenders. The Vikings totally got worse. Their D-line lost 2 key factors. And they lost Sidney Rice. Their only receiving target is Migraines mcgee and Mcribb is Mcribb. The Bears signed RW11 (hahahahahaha) and Marion Barber and their defense isn't getting any younger.

We sweep the bears and Viqueens and split with the Pack. Book it

 

[eznark]

What position did the Vikings get better at? I can't honestly think of one (though I might have missed some FA signings in the whirlwind)

 

[jakncoke]

One could say QB. But that depend how much faith you have in old ass Mcribb. But imo old Mcribb has more potential then Tjack

 

[BakedPigeon]

If anyone has some openings on a fantasy team send me a PM. I'm just interested in playing for fun, I do money leagues with close friends.

 

[eznark]

One could say QB. But that depend how much faith you have in old ass Mcribb. But imo old Mcribb has more potential then Tjack

Ya, but McNabb is a clear downgrade from Favre.

 

[msdstc]

Ya, but McNabb is a clear downgrade from Favre.

Not last years Favre. Mcnabb isn't very good, but with the weapons the vikings have he could definitely do bette than last year.

 

[Levyne]

Not last years Favre. Mcnabb isn't very good, but with the weapons the vikings have he could definitely do bette than last year.

Shanko and Harvin?

 

[ajf009]

I think the Vikings got a bit better, the Packers are still Super Bowl champs and the Bears got a lot worse.

It's going to be a tough division this year.

I don't think we (Bears) got worse.. but there sure wasn't much upgrading

 

[Narag]

Not last years Favre. Mcnabb isn't very good, but with the weapons the vikings have he could definitely do bette than last year.

I don't think any QB was succeeding with the vikings last year. Harvin wasn't cut out to be a #1 receiver and Rice was sorely needed in that position.

 

[eznark]

Not last years Favre. Mcnabb isn't very good, but with the weapons the vikings have he could definitely do bette than last year.

Did you watch last years McNabb? It's closer than you might think. And weapons? lol

I don't think we (Bears) got worse.. but there sure wasn't much upgrading

Old team got older

 

[Levyne]

I don't think we (Bears) got worse.. but there sure wasn't much upgrading

Naw it's been bad. I don't think we got a LOT worse, but seeing how many balls that bounced our way last year aren't going to bounce the same way, it will seem like we got a lot worse.

On paper we'll likely go from an 11 win team to a 7-8 win team, but we played like an 8-9 win team last year.

Of course, the season is played for a reason, though.

 

[msdstc]

Shanko and Harvin?

I'm not saying their great, but if you watched there were quite a few games that if Favre didn't have his head up his ass he could've easily moved the ball... not to mention Adrian Peterson, who a few years ago lead his team to the playoffs with T-jack back there( they weren't a great team, but you get it)

 

[Elfforkusu]

Ya, but McNabb is a clear downgrade from Favre.

Eh, I'd say that's a wash.

I'm not saying their great, but if you watched there were quite a few games that if Favre didn't have his head up his ass he could've easily moved the ball... not to mention Adrian Peterson, who a few years ago lead his team to the playoffs with T-jack back there( they weren't a great team, but you get it)

The Vikes completely self-destructed last year after that first Packer loss, so it's hard to evaluate how good/bad they really were. They could go .500 this year if it comes together right.

That said, I'm pretty sure they're going to suck.

 

[FrenchMovieTheme]

Not last years Favre. Mcnabb isn't very good, but with the weapons the vikings have he could definitely do bette than last year.

uh, what weapons do the vikings have on offense? they have adrian peterson and percy harvin. adrian peterson is overrated and percy harvin always has headaches. vikings have a better defense than the skins but their offense isn't that much better

 

[yacobod]

fuck the bears organization and jerry angelo in particular for not keeping olin kreutz. guy was the toughest guy to wear the navy blue and orange in the past 20 years, was the glue in the locker room, and could still play 1 or 2 seasons. olin was 1 game away for breaking the chicago bears record for consecutive games played at 183 (payton 184). i'm fed up with the garbage at the top of this organization.

 

[Soroc]

Clayton has got to be off his rocker, right? RIGHT?

Clayton tweet:

As part of the Jets hectic pace on getting Antonio Cromartie under contract, they are calling around on trades to clear cap room.

WTH is going on in Jet land!

 

[eznark]

fuck the bears organization and jerry angelo in particular for not keeping olin kreutz. guy was the toughest guy to wear the navy blue and orange in the past 20 years, was the glue in the locker room, and could still play 1 or 2 seasons. olin was 1 game away for breaking the chicago bears record for consecutive games played at 183 (payton 184). i'm fed up with the garbage at the top of this organization.

I was wondering where you were!

 

[cuevas. PhD.]

Naw it's been bad. I don't think we got a LOT worse, but seeing how many balls that bounced our way last year aren't going to bounce the same way, it will seem like we got a lot worse.
On paper we'll likely go from an 11 win team to a 7-8 win team, but we played like an 8-9 win team last year.
Of course, the season is played for a reason, though.

The season could have also been better (Redskins, lol)

 

[AgentChris]

Clayton has got to be off his rocker, right? RIGHT?

Clayton tweet:

As part of the Jets hectic pace on getting Antonio Cromartie under contract, they are calling around on trades to clear cap room.

WTH is going on in Jet land!

If Cromartie wants too money much, fuck it. We'll ride with that Kyle Wilson future.

 

[Levyne]

The season could have also been better (Redskins, lol)

True.

 

[ajf009]

Naw it's been bad. I don't think we got a LOT worse, but seeing how many balls that bounced our way last year aren't going to bounce the same way, it will seem like we got a lot worse.

On paper we'll likely go from an 11 win team to a 7-8 win team, but we played like an 8-9 win team last year.

Of course, the season is played for a reason, though.

I like the Okoye signing, and im not sure what the numbers were on the williams signing but as long as we got him cheap it was a decent low risk pick up as well. the same goes for Vernon Gholston.

We didn't do anything bad (except for not resigning Kreutz. dumb fuckers give him the 500,00 he fucking wants and have one more year of stability if nothing else jesus) but the signing we did make were like i said, low risk with a small small chance that one of the four guys does something good (gholsten, barber, williams, and okoye)



Oh yeah and if they don't resign Matt Forte long term I am going to flip a shit. he could have been like desean jackson and held out, but no he's a quality stand up guy who makes less than his backups do and who comes to camp works hard and gets he job done. resign him or else!

 

[goldlion054]

If Cromartie wants too money much, fuck it. We'll ride with that Kyle Wilson future.

Thats a future nobody wants

 

[Plinko]

I agree, the Packers are still top tier contenders. The Vikings totally got worse. Their D-line lost 2 key factors. And they lost Sidney Rice. Their only receiving target is Migraines mcgee and Mcribb is Mcribb. The Bears signed RW11 (hahahahahaha) and Marion Barber and their defense isn't getting any younger.

We sweep the bears and Viqueens and split with the Pack. Book it

OK, how I missed what happened to the Vikings is beyond me. I didn't think they lost that many players in FA. Sorry--my mom got in a huge car accident last night. My mind isn't exactly focused right now.

I still think Jenkins and McNabb are decent and McNabb is probably better than T-Jack. Still, definitely not "a little better" like I said earlier.

Here's some Glazer tweets about the Bears:

Jay_Glazer Jay Glazer
Just being around these Bears players I honestly can't remember a lockerroom this distraught about losing a guy like they are about O Kreutz

Jay_Glazer Jay Glazer
These guys are clearly ticked that they are losing their long time leader. Many talk about how big affect he's had on lockerroom over yrs

It appears the Bears franchise is imploding and they haven't played preseason game #1 yet.

 

[FrenchMovieTheme]

Thats a future nobody wants

teams who aren't the jets would love for kyle wilson to start for the jets.

in other news:

UPDATE: Kreutz now says he’s considering retirement after rejecting a one-year, $4 million offer from the Bears. “That is a decision I am still making. I am sure I will have an opportunity,” Kreutz told Brad Biggs of the Chicago Tribune. “I am just not sure if I want to play for anyone else.”

translation: i would rather retire than play for the 49ers.

CHAMPIONSHIP!!!

 

[Buckethead]

Jesus tickets are 'spensive.

 

[eznark]

It appears the Bears franchise is imploding and they haven't played preseason game #1 yet.

Maybe the Bears were going for the Lawyer Milloy effect?

 

[overcast]

Robert Quin showed up to Rams' practice with a knee injury. They say it's not serious, but idk. Rams like flushing first round picks down the toilet. Would make sense that he'd be injured and Bowers would be fine

Fuck me. Shit, I guess I should have expected that though.

 

[Not a Jellyfish]

Clayton has got to be off his rocker, right? RIGHT?

Clayton tweet:

As part of the Jets hectic pace on getting Antonio Cromartie under contract, they are calling around on trades to clear cap room.

WTH is going on in Jet land!

Hopefully these trade calls being made are not for cap room and are to get Asante instead. If Cro wants a ridiculous amount of money, especially after being ignored by virtually every team then fuck him.

 

[Soroc]

If Cromartie wants too money much, fuck it. We'll ride with that Kyle Wilson future.

I don't think you understand the ramifications of your statement!

If all else fails Jets are going back to 2009 and will have Lito Sheppard in Florham first thing in the morning...

as bad as it is, would still be an upgrade over Kyle Wilson...

 

[ajf009]

Maybe the Bears were going for the Lawyer Milloy effect?

what do you mean?

 

[TheLegendary]

Zombo will be our ROLB.

Dude looked great last season and I guess he Clay-Ed up.

Walden is in with the ones today. I think Walden >> Zombo

 

[TheFatOne]

Hopefully these trade calls being made are not for cap room and are to get Asante instead. If Cro wants a ridiculous amount of money, especially after being ignored by virtually every team then fuck him.

He has all the leverage against the Jets. They took a gamble with Aso, and they lost. Can't believe the Texans were the smarter team.

 

[Alligatorjandro]

Hopefully Cromartie has too much pride and decides to go play for the NFC West or somewhere

 

[eznark]

what do you mean?

You don't remember 2003? It's not that long ago.

 

[Not a Jellyfish]

He has all the leverage against the Jets. They took a gamble with Aso, and they lost. Can't believe the Texans were the smarter team.

Oh, most definitely but it is kinda shitty when you gain that leverage from no one giving to shits about you for like 3 days. haha

Spoiler

Fucking Eagles.

 

[Buckethead]

Walden is in with the ones today. I think Walden >> Zombo

Rewatched umm Vikings at GB I think and forget what else, but Zombo looked great. He was good stopping the run and keeping contain.
I think that's something the D needs to work hard on - stopping the run.

Walden's probably the better blitzer though.

 

[PhoenixDark]

Lions fans; Big Ten fans.

Both completely delusional.

Lions being the second best team in their division is far from delusional. 9 wins, maybe 10, is a real possibility.

If Fairley keeps his head in the game, he'll be a beast. So far it sounds like he's tagging behind Suh, learning everything he can. I hope that continues. Even if he doesn't reach his potential, playing beside Suh will make him look better.

 

[ajf009]

You don't remember 2003? It's not that long ago.

Well i didnt really get big into football until like 05, so i might be wrong. but wasn't milloy let go for salary purposes? kreutz isn't coming back to the bears because of 500,000... they can pay that

 

[cuevas. PhD.]

I'm going to stick with "It's the lions" until they prove otherwise. All this hype makes me believe they are going to be the texans for the next 10 years instead of being the worst team in the league.

 

[eznark]

Well i didnt really get big into football until like 05, so i might be wrong. but wasn't milloy let go for salary purposes? kreutz isn't coming back to the bears because of 500,000... they can pay that

Milloy was the first big "cut them a year earlier than you really need to" Belicheat move. It infuriated the players and there were questions of players willingness to play for him.

They got destroyed by the Bills in week 1 and everyone was sure the team was tanking to get the Cheat fired. We all know how the rest played out.

 

[ajf009]

Milloy was the first big "cut them a year earlier than you really need to" Belicheat move. It infuriated the players and there were questions of players willingness to play for him.

They got destroyed by the Bills in week 1 and everyone was sure the team was tanking to get the Cheat fired. We all know how the rest played out.

Ahh, yes i came in after that scenario i suppose haha

 

[cuevas. PhD.]

Milloy was the first big "cut them a year earlier than you really need to" Belicheat move. It infuriated the players and there were questions of players willingness to play for him.
They got destroyed by the Bills in week 1 and everyone was sure the team was tanking to get the Cheat fired. We all know how the rest played out.

You know I actually trust the bears on this move. It has pissed all the players off but they have Tice, I think he let them know they shouldn't stick with Olin. I trust Tice, he fixed up the Oline the best he could and probably saw something with him and told the font office not to push hard to get him back.

IN TICE WE TRUST, BOAT TRIP

 

[TheLegendary]

All the beat writers are raving about Cobb's quickness. This was my biggest wish out of the draft; I wanted a 1st or 2nd round WR who could bring some speed to our receiving corp. Jennings is "smart" fast...he's not an outright burner...and Jones/Nelson/Driver/Finley certainly aren't. Who knows if the rest pans out with Cobb, but it seems he's got the speed aspect down. Definitely could add yet another dynamic to our offense.

 

[FrenchMovieTheme]

All the beat writers are raving about Cobb's quickness. This was my biggest wish out of the draft; I wanted a 1st or 2nd round WR who could bring some speed to our receiving corp. Jennings is "smart" fast...he's not an outright burner...and Jones/Nelson/Driver/Finley certainly aren't. Who knows if the rest pans out with Cobb, but it seems he's got the speed aspect down. Definitely could add yet another dynamic to our offense.

what!? a rookie wr is getting rave reviews in training camp?? holy shit!

p.s. yes i'm a bitter old man now!

 

[DMczaf]

Every team right now looks like a million bucks, and everyone has a potential rookie of the year.


Except for the Bengals.

 

[TheLegendary]

what!? a rookie wr is getting rave reviews in training camp?? holy shit!

p.s. yes i'm a bitter old man now!

Fair enough...good point old man. But speed is probably one of the only things that actually is even worth discussing with practices in shorts.

Edit: By the way how is Crabtree doing?

 

[WedgeX]

fuck the bears organization and jerry angelo in particular for not keeping olin kreutz. guy was the toughest guy to wear the navy blue and orange in the past 20 years, was the glue in the locker room, and could still play 1 or 2 seasons. olin was 1 game away for breaking the chicago bears record for consecutive games played at 183 (payton 184). i'm fed up with the garbage at the top of this organization.

Yeah that shit sucks for the Bears.

Can't imagine how that O-Line is going to hold up with basically one week of camp and a pre-season to get used to a new center.