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[TheFatOne]

Cotchery's on the trading block =/

Why? The Jets are already thin at WR

 

[Wellington]

It just seems like the Giants are trying to prove to Osi that he needs them more than they need him.

Uh... it's the truth? Osi was benched in 2009 in favor of Kiwanuka because he couldn't maintain gap assignments and was flat out neglecting his responsibilities in order to try and get the QB and inflate his stats. I forgot where I read the stats, but in terms of pressures/snap played, Kiwanuka far outplayed Osi (and most of the NFL for that matter). He is a much better player and has been stuck behind Osi on the depth chart. Further, JPP showed flashes last season and by a number of accounts he was "playing in slow motion". That's pretty fucking crazy for those of us that got the pleasure of seeing JPPs 2 sack game as well as his insane ST play.

I've disliked Osi for years, he's an overrated cry baby that's benefitted from playing opposite a hall of famer (Michael Strahan) and the overall best two way DE in the league right now (Tuck). He looked good last year because Tuck and Canty were drawing the doubles (sometimes doubles plus chips for Tuck).

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[DeaconKnowledge]

What does Giants Age think he's realistically worth? I said before a 2nd rounder should get the job done, maybe add a 4th to sweeten.

I don't see why the Giants don't just go for it. They're pretty stacked at DT/E anyway aren't they?

 

[Wellington]

What does Giants Age think he's realistically worth? I said before a 2nd rounder should get the job done, maybe add a 4th to sweeten.

I don't see why the Giants don't just go for it. They're pretty stacked at DT/E anyway aren't they?

Not stacked at DT. We only have Canty, Austin, and Joseph after Cofield and Bernard walked. Everyone else is training camp fodder.

I'd love a mid second for Osi.

 

[Striker]

If Osi left, and they just got picks in return, they would be left with Tuck, Pierre-Paul, and a Kiwanuka player who had a serious neck injury from last year. He's on a short term deal, but they're hoping he can stay healthy. If he is, it's a great trio and one that can be dominant in both the pass and run. I just wouldn't mind them picking up a DE for depth if he's dealt, or if they elect not to re-sign Tollefson, who in my view isn't a bad 4th DE and ST'er But he is not relied upon in 3rd DE roles; he was used this way some times in 2008 as the DL had absolutely no depth that year.

 

[Futurevoid]

What does Giants Age think he's realistically worth? I said before a 2nd rounder should get the job done, maybe add a 4th to sweeten.

I'd be happy with that. A mid-2nd rounder sounds about rightin terms of value. An added 4-6th pick would just sweeten the deal.

or if they elect not to re-sign Tollefson

His number, along with Chase Blackburns' have already been reassigned to other players.

Oh and the Prince needs to get signed and get his ass in camp!

 

[BigAT]

Realistically he's probably worth a second round pick, but I like their strategy of demanding a first and then keeping him if they can't get that. They are either overpaid for Osi or they get to keep him and say there isn't a market for him to be traded.

 

[The Frankman]

Realistically he's probably worth a second round pick, but I like their strategy of demanding a first and then keeping him if they can't get that. They are either overpaid for Osi or they get to keep him and say there isn't a market for him to be traded.

Yep, some team will be desperate enough to overpay. If they don't, fine.

 

[Soroc]

Lombardi tweeted:

Yes confirmed from 2 NFL team sources, the Jets are willing to trade WR--Jerrico Cotchery-possiblely to free up cap space and sign other FAs

Looks like the Jets aren't done yet with the moves...

 

[BigAT]

Lombardi tweeted:

Yes confirmed from 2 NFL team sources, the Jets are willing to trade WR--Jerrico Cotchery-possiblely to free up cap space and sign other FAs

Looks like the Jets aren't done yet with the moves...

This seems foolish to me. Who would be their #3 WR if they got rid of Cotchery? I can't think of any serious talent that they have behind him. Right now I consider Plaxico to be an unproven asset, it seems that it makes it all the more important to have a solid, reliable wide receiver behind him on the depth chart in case things don't pan out.

 

[cwmartin]

Why? The Jets are already thin at WR

If Edwards comes back to reality, 3 premier (once) wide-outs isn't thin at all. Greene and Tomlinson can help spread the field if they honestly need to in place of a 4 or 5 WR set. Again, all assuming Edwards is kept and restructured for what he's worth.


EDIT: My bad, hes unrestricted. Take what I said with a load of shit after.

 

[tmdorsey]

I would say no more than a 2nd for Osi as well.

 

[Futurevoid]

Fewell met with reporters today and had some comments about Kenny Phillips, Austin and the Osi situation:

Osi is still part of the #giants. that's how he's operating.

Fewell impressed with JPP's retention from last season. #giants #nyg

Perry Fewell pleased with DT Marvin Austin's practice yesterday. Said he looked powerful and quick. #nyg

Oh and have gotten plenty of questions on the 3-safety look. Fewell says it'll depend on personnel. Deon Grant still unsigned. #nyg

Fewell: We've got plans for Kiwanuka, other big 3 DEs to be a force. #nyg

Come on, Giants. Bring the man back!

Fewell: Prince Amukamara missing a lot not being signed and in camp. #nyg

Fewell on Goff: comfortable in the huddle and making calls. #giants #nyg

Fewell looking for a "quantum leap" from Kenny Phillips. Admits he tried to "minimize his collisions" last year on acct of the knee. #nyg

Also, one more comment:

He looked good last year because Tuck and Canty were drawing the doubles (sometimes doubles plus chips for Tuck).

It's amazing to me how much Giants fans undervalue Canty because he doesn't put up flashy numbers.

 

[Striker]

I thought some have said they used Grant in the 3rd S role because of Phillip's questionable health, which makes sense. Now if they opt to use somebody like Prince in this role, or Terrell Thomas with Prince going outside, it can be just as viable.

 

[DMczaf]

Who would be dumb enough to trade a 1st round pick for a 30 year old DE demanding a huge pay day?

 

[Futurevoid]

Hey, they can have him for Zach Miller. Straight up.

 

[talisayNon]

Rex talking about burn ratio in his presser :jakn

 

[Alligatorjandro]

Rex got a calf tattoo

 

[Wellington]

I think the Jets are moving in a different direction regarding their offense. How good a run blocker was Braylon Edwards? Plaxico Burress is second best in the NFL at that, Santonio Holmes is also pretty damned good. The best in the NFL as a run blocking WR is Hines Ward (funny, they all have one thing in common, getting in trouble with the law isn't it, but it proves that the organization is full of thugs and low lives). The Jets are likely looking to start running the ball like mad.

 

[LyleLanley]

Filed to ESPN: Future Hall-of-Fame wide receiver Randy Moss has decided to retire rather than continue playing, agent Joel Segal said.

Adam Schefters twitter.

 

[Dragon]

Rex got a calf tattoo

*insert foot joke here*

 

[Wellington]

Adam Schefters twitter.

Wow Favre and Moss in one off-season? Hooray!

 

[Soroc]

I think the Jets are moving in a different direction regarding their offense. How good a run blocker was Braylon Edwards? Plaxico Burress is second best in the NFL at that, Santonio Holmes is also pretty damned good. The best in the NFL as a run blocking WR is Hines Ward (funny, they all have one thing in common, getting in trouble with the law isn't it, but it proves that the organization is full of thugs and low lives). The Jets are likely looking to start running the ball like mad.

To Be honest with you Braylon Edwards was a beast of a blocker. One of his best skills.

I think there will be a lot more passing going on with the Jets this year.

I'd personally prefer to see ground and pound back in full force.

 

[LyleLanley]

Wow Favre and Moss in one off-season? Hooray!

Give it a week and they'll both sign with the eagles.

 

[TheFatOne]

Wow Favre and Moss in one off-season? Hooray!

Favre retired? Damn I was hoping the Redskins would sign him for the lulz

 

[Slo]

Adam Schefters twitter.

So long Randy. :-\

 

[DMczaf]

Adam Schefters twitter.

But I was told by people close to Moss that he had that fire in his eyes again and he hasn't looked this good since 18-1.

Were these reports made up by his people to boost his appeal in the free agent market?! Tell me a lie!

 

[cwmartin]

Wow, he probably would still be playing if he was in New England. He forced himself into retirement.

 

[Alligatorjandro]

Damn Randy

 

[painey]

The Vikings are in my town for camp, hopefully seeing a practice session on saturday. Wanna see McNabb

 

[TheFatOne]

Wow, he probably would still be playing if he was in New England. He forced himself into retirement.

Randy being Randy

 

[Wellington]

Per NFL.com, the top 40 remaining FAs (yes I totally disagree with the order)

1. Zach Miller, Raiders, TE (should be first signed)
2. Ahmad Bradshaw, Giants, RB
3. Braylon Edwards, Jets, WR
4. Kevin Boss, Giants, TE
5. Roman Harper, Saints, S
6. Aubrayo Franklin, 49ers, NT
7. Carlos Rogers, Redskins, CB
8. Dashon Goldson, 49ers, S
9. Shaun Ellis, Jets, DE
10. Jason Snelling, Falcons, RB
11. Le'Ron McClain, Ravens, FB
12. Cadillac Williams, Bucs, RB
13. Manny Lawson, 49ers, OLB
14. Derrick Mason, Ravens, WR
15. Shaun O'Hara, Giants, C
16. Leonard Davis, Cowboys, G
17. Brian Waters, Chiefs, G
18. Marc Bulger, Ravens, QB
19. Brodney Pool, Jets, S
20. Tully Banta-Cain, Patriots, OLB
21. Madison Hedgecock, Giants, FB
22. Ronnie Brown, Dolphins, RB
23. Matt Roth, Browns, OLB/DE
24. Max Starks, Steelers, OT
25. Brady Poppinga, Packers, OLB
26. Ty Warren, Patriots, DE
27. Lofa Tatupu, Seahawks, MLB
28. Malcom Floyd, Chargers, WR
29. Olin Kreutz, Bears, C
30. Donte Whitner, Bills, S
31. Terrell Owens, Bengals, WR
32. Charlie Johnson, Colts, OT
33. Ben Leber, Vikings, LB
34. Pat Williams, Vikings, NT
35. Steve Smith, Giants, WR
36. Stylez G. White, Bucs, DE
37. Bo Scaife, Titans, TE
38. Rocky McIntosh, Redskins, LB
39. Dhani Jones, Bengals, MLB
40. Gerald Sensabaugh, Cowboys, S

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000...in-on-freeagent-market?module=HP11_hot_topics

 

[Alligatorjandro]

Fucking Rex

 

[squicken]

Is Randy Moss a slam dunk for the HoF?

Filed to ESPN: Future Hall-of-Fame wide receiver Randy Moss has decided to retire rather than continue playing, agent Joel Segal said.

 

[Spectral Glider]

There's always TO!

 

[DMczaf]

12. Cadillac Williams, Bucs, RB

 

[Futurevoid]

Another situation I hope is resolved soon.

TheBlueScreen Ralph Vacchiano
Paging Ahmad Bradshaw ... As promised, free agent RB Jason Snelling is in the building meeting with #NYG coaches right now. Stay tuned.

 

[Alligatorjandro]

Is Randy Moss a slam dunk for the HoF?

yes

 

[Wes]

Rumour that the Bunkley trade may be off.

 

[Crazymoogle]

Randy being Randy

Just wait, the Week 1 Bengals game will be interrupted when Palmer and Randy walk on the field to the NWO theme. Fans will shake their heads in disgust and then Favre will be inspired to unretire and play for the Seahawks.

 

[squicken]

yes

I not saying he isn't. But is there any season where you would have said "Randy Moss is the best WR in the game"

 

[Sanjuro]

Is Randy Moss a slam dunk for the HoF?

How can you even ask that?

 

[FlawlessCowboy]

So long, Randy.

 

[Alligatorjandro]

I not saying he isn't. But is there any season where you would have said "Randy Moss is the best WR in the game"

The year he caught 23 td's

 

[Kave_Man]

Rumour that the Bunkley trade may be off.

Any reason why?

 

[KingGondo]

I not saying he isn't. But is there any season where you would have said "Randy Moss is the best WR in the game"

Dude. Just stop.

 

[Gigglepoo]

With the exception of Vick in the top tier, I endorse this list.

Cowardly Ryan is the Reggie Wayne of QBs.

 

[Big-E]

I not saying he isn't. But is there any season where you would have said "Randy Moss is the best WR in the game"

Dude...

 

[squicken]

Well I seem to be the outlier on this. I never said he wasn't a HoF guy, just questioned whether he was a "slam dunk". In fact, I'm almost certain he won't get in on the first ballot.

 

[TheFatOne]

Well I seem to be the outlier on this. I never said he wasn't a HoF guy, just questioned whether he was a "slam dunk". In fact, I'm almost certain he won't get in on the first ballot.

lol just stop