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Indeed but this season I'm going to be less negative.msdstc said:
Too much hatefulness going on.
Namaste, everyone.
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Official NFL 2011 Offseason Thread of OUR LONG NATIONAL NIGHTMARE IS OVER
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Too much hatefulness going on.
Namaste, everyone.
Found this amusing:
http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4681106/cowboys-practice-report-5
It was the first day the Cowboys were in full pads during this training camp, and one thing that was noticed was what we'll call "The Roy Williams drill." In a Thanksgiving Day loss to the New Orleans Saints last year, Williams was running down field toward a possible touchdown when he was stripped from behind by safety Malcom Jenkins. The Saints recovered the ball at the Cowboys 11 and would go on to win. Well, Saturday afternoon, ball carriers were positioned to run through two sets of players who were trying to strip them of the ball. They run through the first set of players positioned near the hash marks. Then once the ball carrier gets past the first group, two more players chase the player from behind trying to strip the the ball before he gets into the end zone.
http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4681106/cowboys-practice-report-5
It was the first day the Cowboys were in full pads during this training camp, and one thing that was noticed was what we'll call "The Roy Williams drill." In a Thanksgiving Day loss to the New Orleans Saints last year, Williams was running down field toward a possible touchdown when he was stripped from behind by safety Malcom Jenkins. The Saints recovered the ball at the Cowboys 11 and would go on to win. Well, Saturday afternoon, ball carriers were positioned to run through two sets of players who were trying to strip them of the ball. They run through the first set of players positioned near the hash marks. Then once the ball carrier gets past the first group, two more players chase the player from behind trying to strip the the ball before he gets into the end zone.
Big Baybee
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That run was probably the best thing that could have happened to our defense. Our interior d-line is going to be a wall.DMczaf said:
No, but that's why they drafted Cameron Jordan and got Aubrayo . Also, the main problem last year was that pretty much every linebacker worth a shit in an already thin linebacker corps was injured and out for that Seahawks game (and most of the season as well). Then Harper decided to have the worst game of his career with a bunch of scrub linebackers who really needed his assistance. I honestly don't see that happening again with players like Martez Wilson, Jonathan Casillas and Vilma back there with actual pressure up front. They had to do something and they definitely did. Excited to see the defense at work. Lots of speed back there in the middle which was sorely missing before. Shaun also completely dwarfs our next biggest DT which is Ellis.DMczaf said:
Also, I'm thinking were going to have an epic fight on our hands. Two beasts, one number.
Why was Franklin let go from S.F.? Curious to know. Not sure I'd call him a "beast", but Rogers sure is. CLE let him go because they have a better stout DT already: Ahtyba Rubin
As for the Giants and the Osi situation, I would be thrilled if they can land an early pick (2nd) and TE John Carlson. If it's 3rd, that's fine. Getting Carlson would be an upgrade at the TE position and a 3rd is still a viable slot.
If Boss goes to OAK that's unfortunate, although I still don't know why he hasn't signed. Out pricing himself is my estimation. Zach Miller is the TE I wanted from the get-go, too bad he'll have garbage throwing him the ball (unless Pete tanks for Luck).
As for the Giants and the Osi situation, I would be thrilled if they can land an early pick (2nd) and TE John Carlson. If it's 3rd, that's fine. Getting Carlson would be an upgrade at the TE position and a 3rd is still a viable slot.
If Boss goes to OAK that's unfortunate, although I still don't know why he hasn't signed. Out pricing himself is my estimation. Zach Miller is the TE I wanted from the get-go, too bad he'll have garbage throwing him the ball (unless Pete tanks for Luck).
Wellington
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MechDX said:
This is exactly what I was saying when the Leach sweepstakes were going on. I saw more of Arian Foster in single back 2 TE or 3 WR sets than anything else last season. Once they got Owen Daniels I thought Foster was more effective than earlier in the year because Daniels is such a threat in the passing game (joke's on defenses tho, he wasn't even adequately running routes until a couple of weeks after he came back from the knee).
Lance also makes this point, which I can't say I agree with:
And I don't agree because the Texans' passing game is so effective, of course D's will defend the pass before the run if an extra wideout or TE is in.
Further, their zone blocking scheme is more effective when that extra defender isn't hovering over the LOS reading the FB, that's what it's designed for. It makes sense that when defenses came out in Nickel or had an LB/S out in space covering a second TE that their running game was as productive. The Giants used a lot of similar principles when Tiki was around btw.
Wellington
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Was actually thinking of responding to this one. Thanks again to you and D for putting me on to Lance. Dude is a wealth of info, especially on offense.Miguel said:
I am done in the respect that I won't be posting here 50 times a day (30 of which would be posts about how great Ben is and/or about how evil the Pats are). I honestly am barely following any football news and I don't have the time or patience to follow this thread either, it just moves way too fast for me now. Obviously the quality of the thread is suffering without that input but you guys will have to soldier on and someone will have to pick up the Steelers flag* and carry on in my place.msdstc said:
I am still going to pop in though (usually on my iPhone which is the worst way to post online) when I can.
Some good news though, I think my wife is going to spend a few weeks at her mom's house in the fall so for those are missing their usual bionic77 fix you are sure to get some more posts when I have the house to myself!
* The flag is for justice, honor, Superbowls, not raping college girls and above all stands against the New England Patriots and all that they represent.
DeaconKnowledge
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Miss ya Horton. Good guy.
Wellington
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For those wondering what he's talking about:Brinbe said:
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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That sucks, I hope he could still move everything, so at least it's nothing horrendous.Wellington said:
Futurevoid
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Scary stuff. I hope he's ok and it's nothing too serious.
LeSean Mccoy was also apparently injured at practice as well (hamstring). I'm surprised we're not seeing more conditioning related injuries with training camps really getting underway.
LeSean Mccoy was also apparently injured at practice as well (hamstring). I'm surprised we're not seeing more conditioning related injuries with training camps really getting underway.
Not only that, but Laws was carted off to the locker room with an injury and Abiamiri was being looked at for something (but that guy is always nicked up). Hope the Patterson thing is just dehydration/heat-related and nothing more serious. Still scary though.Wellington said:
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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Brinbe said:
Same, but at the same time I would hope we'd be avoiding (and any teams) that, since it's so easy to prevent.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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Jesus he sounds like he had a seizure.
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Futurevoid
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It doesn't seem serious:
yankeehater
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Manos: The Hans of Fate said:
Yikes that sounds bad. I hope he is okay.
BaltimoreLarry
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Brent Grimes is still out there, and I remember him being solid last year for ATL. Is he hurt? I'd like to see him in Baltimore.
Crazymoogle
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PFT saying that the Eagles made an offer to Randy, but he hasn't attempted to recall his retirement papers yet...
Has it cooled down in the Northeast yet? Saints players have to pretty much practice two-a-days in sweltering Louisiana heat with high humidity the whole time and it pretty much feels like being in a sauna. They have to practice in black jerseys too. Kind of prepares them for those really hot outdoor games in southern stadiums, but it doesn't prepare them for super cold games.
Grover Cleveland
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Spacebar said:
If they're anything like the last "dream team", I don't think the rest of the League has anything to worry about.
Crazymoogle
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cajunator said:
(Quick look at a weather website for Lousiana): 31c, heat index is 39c. So...probably not
yankeehater
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Crazymoogle said:
Right before he retired on Eagles Live Dave was saying that he had heard from multiple team sources that they were interested in Moss. I am a bit surprised he wouldnt want to play on more year with the Eagles.
TheDrizzlerJ11
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Spacebar said:
I was trying to explain to my brother how much of a steal this was. Kept saying See, Ronnie's shit. Rest of the league knows it.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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Yeah, at first I was think heat issues, and it still may be, but convulsions on the ground is bad news.yankeehater said:
krzy123 said:
Those big boys after an off-season with burgers and tacos need one endurance drill to colapse
In all fairness, it was hot and the guy is big, and it's the start of camp so... As long as he gets immediate medical attention, he should be alright in a few days. We don't need another Stringer case
Wellington
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Ok. Should've just said all that in the first place.Brinbe said:
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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Some new news
CitizenCope
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Patriots please pick up Osi!
Haven't wanted a player this bad since the Peppers rumors.
I enjoy watching Defense more than offense and these last few years have been torture here in New England on third down. I miss the days of expecting a huge defensive play nearly every play.
Haven't wanted a player this bad since the Peppers rumors.
I enjoy watching Defense more than offense and these last few years have been torture here in New England on third down. I miss the days of expecting a huge defensive play nearly every play.
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