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Official NFL 2011 Offseason Thread of OUR LONG NATIONAL NIGHTMARE IS OVER
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ZedIndyLil
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I know sabermetrics folks like to make predictions by looking at anomalous stats from the previous year and anticipating a return to the mean. Here's one that may or may not be troubling for the Packers: penalties.
From ESPN, the total number of team penalties & yards for Green Bay in the Mike McCarthy era:
(format is #penalties (league rank)--yds)
The Packers' penalty totals were in fact their lowest in something like 15 years last year. And that's skewed further by the 18-penalty mess in Chicago.
It'll be interesting to watch if their penalties are up this year. Hopefully the offense can take the parking brake off and compensate for any additional yards lost.
From ESPN, the total number of team penalties & yards for Green Bay in the Mike McCarthy era:
(format is #penalties (league rank)--yds)
- 2010: 78 (#5)--617
- 2009: 118 (#32)--1017
- 2008: 110 (#30)--984
- 2007: 113 (#29)--1006
- 2006: 90 (#13)--689
The Packers' penalty totals were in fact their lowest in something like 15 years last year. And that's skewed further by the 18-penalty mess in Chicago.
It'll be interesting to watch if their penalties are up this year. Hopefully the offense can take the parking brake off and compensate for any additional yards lost.
Futurevoid
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Some rumblings from Giants camp that the closing of the trade window could mean Osi is getting an extension of some type with the Giants. Very early rumors at best right now though...
Wellington said:I'm gonna miss Deon Grant, but TT at that third S position sounds epic. He's a great tackler and has excellent ball skills. The problem for me is that he's a good #2, so if Prince isn't up to par come week 1, who starts at #2 CB? I guess it's Aaron Ross, which I definitely do not mind, but moving TT is like asking a gold glove short stop to play third base.
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But is he being asked to move for one of the worst defensive short stops of all time?
andthebeatgoeson
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Probably about the same if he got #22. Love West and will never forget the punt return before Miracle #2:JABEE said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wziVV5p2tKQ
*tears while listening to Merrill*
But you have to let it go. 2003 to 2010. See you in 2017 Gints fans.
Somebody tell me about that guard the Eagles picked up. Evan Mathis.
andthebeatgoeson
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For posterity purposes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsT2yCEHGGI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsT2yCEHGGI
Futurevoid
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Paper towel dispensers in the greater Seattle area had better watch out.
LizardKing
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Nick Fairley seeing a foot specialist in NC. I hope it's very minor but that doesn't seem good.
http://detnews.com/article/20110803/SPORTS0101/108030415/1126/sports0101/Lions-send-rookie-Nick-Fairley-to-N.C.-for-more-tests-on-foot
http://detnews.com/article/20110803/SPORTS0101/108030415/1126/sports0101/Lions-send-rookie-Nick-Fairley-to-N.C.-for-more-tests-on-foot
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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skinnyrattler said:
Speaking of greatness with Merrill
Eagles Comeback Against Giants Called by Merrill Reese
sf2fanatic
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Has the Bucs made any moves? I know they had alot of money to spend but havent heard any signings..My buddy is furious they didnt get Nhamdi
To be honest, I think they're just as good if not better. Not that sad to see Franklin, Lawson and especially Spikes go.Gigglepoo said:
I have little to no hesitation with how Sopoaga will do at nose, and I still expect the run defense to be stifling, as that's Willis' and Smith's wheelhouse. McDonald, who will likely line up on the left in replace of Sopoaga, is the obvious weak side, but that's easily compensated with...
The replacements for Manny and Takeo. I think Brooks and Smith are going to handily replace Lawson and give Haralson a ride (though I think it's Haralson and Brooks opening day), and I have no issues with Bowman filling Spikes' role. It'll be a more classic version of the TLB.
The biggest difference will be the improved pass rush with Brooks and McDonald (and maybe even Smith) starting.
Wellington
BAAAALLLINNN'
Uh what? 1) You should be thanking the Giants for showing the league how to stop Vick and the Eagles. 2) The only reason the game against GB turned out the way it did is that it's clear that after the previous week the Giants players didn't even care enough to play. If I was owner I wouldn't even pay anyone for that game.TheLegendary said:
TheLegendary
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Nemesis121 said:
Preseason hasnt even been played yet. I get some grace period. Been just looking at home games since Im planning a trip.
Looks like I'll go to that game too. Anyone in Giants GAF wants to take me down, that's your opportunity. You'll need someone to take your frustration out on.
I just hope Welli brings his laptop or something else. I can only take so much
FlawlessCowboy
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After watching that game, I think Giants fans had a similar feeling of what us Patriot fans felt like after 2007.Manos: The Hans of Fate said:
Futurevoid
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As of Tuesday, 7 teams are over the cap:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/03/as-of-tuesday-seven-teams-were-over-the-cap/
Giants worked out DE Andre Carter, yesterday, according to two sources as well.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/03/as-of-tuesday-seven-teams-were-over-the-cap/
Giants worked out DE Andre Carter, yesterday, according to two sources as well.
Not really. I still get a deep pain in the pit of my stomach at it. I feel downright sick just watching it. It hurt more because the Giants had totally dominated them for 52 minutes and suddenly checked out when it counted the most. In the end it cost us the entire season and a playoff spot (not that I think we would have made any noise in the playoffs anyway). Still, it is what it is - a regular season game - not some meaningful playoff game or Super Bowl loss.FlawlessCowboy said:
TheLegendary
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He did disagree with this new agreement. Maybe he's just going to act as if it doesn't exist.
FrenchMovieTheme
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Gigglepoo said:
Wat...
Franklin was overrated. Spikes cant cover. Lawson cant rush the passer. We needed a change. Ice will be fine at nt as we are playing 1 gap. Mcdonald has already proven to be a good pass rusher. Aldon smith cant possibly be worse than manlaw at blitzing the qb and bowman was a beast late last year.
Carlos rogers is also an upgrade over clements.
Ps. Malcom floyd may sign with us today!
Gully State
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FrenchMovieTheme said:
Not to mention how horrible we've been against screen passes in general (although early indications have been that Smith is pretty bad in coverage so getting burned on screens is probably not going to stop anytime soon). What about Ricky Jean Francois? I'm surprised there's no mention of him filling in for Franklin..Last year there was quite a bit of talk about him taking over the NT...
andthebeatgoeson
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I think they should guarantee all the first round rookie contracts. I'm glad they cut the price down but the players have crappy contracts compared to baseball and basketball. There has to be a middle ground. Not all guaranteed but some of them. Especially since football careers last the least amount of time.
Wow, looking at a site: D Jack is getting paid less than Avant, Maclin, Moss and Johhnie Lee Higgens? No. Stop. Seriously? GTFO
Wow, looking at a site: D Jack is getting paid less than Avant, Maclin, Moss and Johhnie Lee Higgens? No. Stop. Seriously? GTFO
Nemesis121
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Giants on the phone with OSI agent, could be working on a new deal...
This according to the Wfan they at Giants camp today...
This according to the Wfan they at Giants camp today...
Wellington
BAAAALLLINNN'
I watch the game about once ever month or two, so it doesn't bother me as much now. Like you said, the biggest problem is just how much they flat out dominated the game and then handed it over. It's moreso that the Giants lost that game than the Eagles won it. At the very least it makes me really optimistic going into this season.Futurevoid said:
DeaconKnowledge
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That game features Joe Buck's best call ever.
I lose it every time I see Coughlin chewing out Dodge as Buck yells "No time left - Eagles win!" Gets me every time.
I lose it every time I see Coughlin chewing out Dodge as Buck yells "No time left - Eagles win!" Gets me every time.
andthebeatgoeson
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MechDX said:
I agree, that's why I think there should be a in between. I hated how Chris Webber kept sucking up money from the Sixers for years. Every baseball team has guys who are getting paychecks but not playing. However, the managers/owners give them the contracts, so how can anybody fault the players? I don't know. I like the shift in income to NFL veterans and I think it's okay for 1st rounders to have a lot in guarantees.
FrenchMovieTheme
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Gully State said:
It can take years for dlineman to develop into productive players.... look at franklin!
skinnyrattler said:
With a cap on rookie wages the April draft will be more entertaining than it ever has been. 1sr round picks will be at a PREMIUM since owners will basically know what it will cost them. No more of the 80 million dollar contracts.
I still would prefer, even with the rookie cap, that these players show some service before they get any guarantees.
The players never come ahead in the NFL once they go against their team.TheFatOne said:
Once you are labeled disgruntled it seems like all of the good teams blackball you and you are only left with the worst teams in the league or the Raiders as your option (and even then you won't get the money you wanted in the first place).
TheLegendary
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DBebm5 said:
Penalties were miraculously low after that 1st Chicago game. Seemingly all the stupid penalties that have always plagued us just disappeared. False starts, defensive holding/PI, ridiculous special teams penalties. Not sure what happened and I do expect penalties to increase a bit this year but maybe McCarthy has finally figured that shit out.
Semi related...I wonder if refs will call the first few games a bit more leniently if play is sloppy and teams are out of sync.
Alligatorjandro
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cwmartin said:
Clausen? Really?
Buckethead
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Some of those calls in that first Bears game were complete dogshit.
Worst reffed game I've seen in awhile.
Still so salty.
Worst reffed game I've seen in awhile.
Still so salty.
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