Official NFL Week 4 Thread - The Sound of AFC Silence

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jakncoke said:
Your friend is a jackass:D, Taylor='d top 5 S, Moss/Portis not top 5 in the positions

Moss I'll give you, but Portis not a Top 5 back? Wow, no wonder he's so pissed at our O-line, I guess highlights is all anyone wants to see anymore, instead of, you know, actually being the integral part of an offense (Eagles fans should be nodding their head in agreement about Westbrook right about now).

Top 5 backs (in no particular order): LT, Westbrook, Portis, Barber...shit, I don't know who else to put here cause no one really comes close to the consistency the first three have shown, year in and year out, for 6 or 7 years (or more). Even including Barber is a stretch, given that he's only the starter for the first time this season, and will still share carries with Felix Jones (whereas each of the other three is the guy.) I included Barber however because he has so many TDs and runs with so much determination and likely will continue to have good production for the next 5 years.
 
NME said:
Well, they can run block, and the left side seems to be doing...ok. Simmons and Colon are utter failures, though.

Of course, Kemoeatu got hit with at least one false start, which in and of itself isn't the end of the world, but on top of all the sacks it becomes just laughably bad.

I also don't understand why they paid Max Starks so much as a transitional player for him to back up Willie Colon. But that's sort of getting into another discussion.
All of the lineman can hit and move, their problem seems to be playing together and seeing the blitz.

During that Eagles game it seemed like the Eagles defenders were somehow cloaked or hidden from the Steelers. And I guess the lack of communication probably had a lot to do with crowd noise (they were getting very excited on every 3rd down).
 
LiveWire said:
Moss I'll give you, but Portis not a Top 5 back? Wow, no wonder he's so pissed at our O-line, I guess highlights is all anyone wants to see anymore, instead of, you know, actually being the integral part of an offense (Eagles fans should be nodding their head in agreement about Westbrook right about now).

Top 5 backs (in no particular order): LT, Westbrook, Portis, Barber...shit, I don't know who else to put here cause no one really comes close to the consistency the first three have shown, year in and year out, for 6 or 7 years (or more). Even including Barber is a stretch, given that he's only the starter for the first time this season, and will still share carries with Felix Jones (whereas each of the other three is the guy.) I included Barber however because he has so many TDs and runs with so much determination and likely will continue to have good production for the next 5 years.

My top 5 includes

LT/ ADP/Brian Westbrook/Marion Barber/Steven Jackson
 
If healthy, my top five would include: Peterson, Westbrook, Tomlinson, Jackson, and Gore.

What's funny about Jackson and Peterson being in a person's top five -- but you want to include Mr.4point0 average . . .
 
jakncoke said:
My top 5 includes

LT/ ADP/Brian Westbrook/Marion Barber/Steven Jackson
Yeah only a Redskin fan would see Portis as top 5.

Edit: If it were my list it would be LDT/Westbrook/Gore/Jackson/ADP
 
If Portis stayed with the Broncos he'd have like 3x the amount of yards/TDs that he's amassed in his time with Washington. He was never a great fit for their system. I wish we still had him but I'm still happy with how that trade turned out.
 
My top 5 includes

LT/ ADP/Brian Westbrook/Marion Barber/Steven Jackson

lol nice list. too bad gore is better than at least 2 of the those backs, especially now. gore is absolutely better than steven jackson and marion barber. you probably can't get put gore ahead of LT or westbrook (although LT has been ass this year). i guess you might be able to make a case for peterson but i don't think so.
 
Top 5 RBs so far in 2008 by rushing yardage:

Matt Forte
Frank Gore
Julius Jones
Adrian Peterson
Michael Turner

Top 5 RBs so far in 2008 by fantasy points:

Marion Barber
Ronnie Brown
Reggie Bush
Frank Gore
Michael Turner

My Top 5

Marion Barber
Frank Gore
Adrian Peterson
LaDainian Tomlinson
Brian Westbrook

Steven Jackson has no place on any Top 5 list with the Rams in their current state. Maybe if he was on a different team with a different offensive line. But not now.
 
Warren and Carlisle are out and Asomugha has a fractured elbow. T_T

If both Asomugha and Routt were unavailable, Kiffin said free safety Michael Huff and reserve safety Rashad Baker could be drafted into action as cornerbacks and the Raiders would just “try and find a way through the game.”

*puts 16 on SD*
 
Rorschach said:
Warren and Carlisle are out and Asomugha has a fractured elbow. T_T



*puts 16 on SD*

"try and find a way through the game" is probably the worst phrase you could ever utter as a coach.
 
FrenchMovieTheme said:
fractured elbow!? the only thing that i can think of that sounds worse is a dislocated knee cap. did this happen in practice or something?
During the Bills game. Someone kicked him after a tackle. The champ finished the game, though. :'( He just had to abandon the press at the end. And he was still shadowing his guy unlike Hall. >:|
 
LiveWire said:

Jackson may be a huge stretch but my 5 are on talent and I didn't take in how sorry the Rams are and your really saying ADP doesn't deserve a place in the top 5? reasons..I'm curious.
 
B-Rad Lascelle said:
Steven Jackson has no place on any Top 5 list with the Rams in their current state. Maybe if he was on a different team with a different offensive line. But not now.
He has a dog shit of an OL and passing game.

He posted solid numbers last season despite a shitty OL, shitty passing game, and an injury. He needs the ball thrown his way more, though.

Maybe he also misses Madison Hedgecock. Thanks Rams!

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saying ADP doesn't deserve a place in the top 5? reasons..I'm curious.

i'm curious why you would have jackson, barber, and peterson on the list but not gore. jackson is garbage (we're not talking about "what he would do if he had a good team", we're talking about what he does), barber plays on an all star team and the jury is still out on how he will handle being a featured back, and adrian peterson runs behind probably one of the best offensive lines in football.

im not saying these guys aren't top 10 backs but give me a break
 
jackson will be back to form once he gets a respectable passing game going. teams are stacking the box on him and he just cant get going.

i wouldnt put him in the top 5 right now, but if the team ever gets rolling he'll be up there, top 3 even.
 
SUN, SEP 28
Minnesota at Tennessee
Denver at Kansas City
San Francisco at New Orleans
Arizona at NY Jets
Green Bay at Tampa Bay
Atlanta at Carolina
Houston at Jacksonville
Cleveland at Cincinnati
San Diego at Oakland
Buffalo at St. Louis
Washington at Dallas
Philadelphia at Chicago

MON, SEP 29
Baltimore at Pittsburgh
 
FrenchMovieTheme said:
i'm curious why you would have jackson, barber, and peterson on the list but not gore. jackson is garbage (we're not talking about "what he would do if he had a good team", we're talking about what he does), barber plays on an all star team and the jury is still out on how he will handle being a featured back, and adrian peterson runs behind probably one of the best offensive lines in football.

im not saying these guys aren't top 10 backs but give me a break

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Westbrook
Gore
LT
Addai
Barber

Those are my top 5, in no order. Peterson is pretty brittle, and he really fizzled out last year down the stretch. Jackson is actually good, but his numbers don't show it. I like Addai, even though he is also really brittle. He's just more proven then Peterson...
 
Doomsayer said:
Westbrook
Gore
LT
Addai
Barber

Those are my top 5, in no order. Peterson is pretty brittle, and he really fizzled out last year down the stretch. Jackson is actually good, but his numbers don't show it. I like Addai, even though he is also really brittle. He's just more proven then Peterson...

By "brittle and faded down the stretch" do you mean tore a ligament in his knee and played on it anyway?
 
Running backs are overrated. There are a ton of good running backs that could succeed behind a good offensive line (i.e. Minnesota, Dallas, etc.).
 
bionic77 said:
Running backs are overrated. There are a ton of good running backs that could succeed behind a good offensive line (i.e. Minnesota, Dallas, etc.).

Chester Taylor proves your point, but you've got to admit that guys like LDT and ADP are in a diffferent class.
 
Slo said:
By "brittle and faded down the stretch" do you mean tore a ligament in his knee and played on it anyway?

I guess half of that. I didn't know he tore a ligament, I thought it was a sprain?

He has always had an injury problem though. I'm not putting him down, (at least not intentionally) I just think he needs another great year to be classed with the best. I also think his style of running is going to cut his career short, just like MB.
 
Doomsayer said:
I guess half of that. I didn't know he tore a ligament, I thought it was a sprain?

He has always had an injury problem though. I'm not putting him down, (at least not intentionally) I just think he needs another great year to be classed with the best. I also think his style of running is going to cut his career short, just like MB.

You're probably right.
 
Placing a back like Barber, who hasn't proven to be a reliable every-down back yet, above starters like Steven Jackson, Frank Gore and Joseph Addai, who flourished in their starting, every down role, is laughable.

Peterson hasn't proven to be that either, except he's ran multiple 200 yard games.
 
Slo said:
Chester Taylor proves your point, but you've got to admit that guys like LDT and ADP are in a diffferent class.
Yeah I agree that every team would benefit by having a guy like AP or LDT, but I would much rather have an elite offensive line than an elite running back. As far as positions go, it is not that high on my list. They also don't usually have long life spans.
 
bionic77 said:
Yeah I agree that every team would benefit by having a guy like AP or LDT, but I would much rather have an elite offensive line than an elite running back. As far as positions go, it is not that high on my list. They also don't usually have long life spans.
You are correct about the OL.

Look at the Giants back success since Coughlin arrived. Barber was an elite player. Jacobs is a big bruiser, but he's achieving over five yards per carry. Derrick Ward is becoming a 4.5+ type player and Bradshaw's cutback ability and explosiveness is perfect for this OL.
 
SUN, SEP 28
Minnesota at Tennessee
Denver at Kansas City
San Francisco at New Orleans
Arizona at NY Jets
Green Bay at Tampa Bay
Atlanta at Carolina
Houston at Jacksonville
Cleveland at Cincinnati
San Diego at Oakland
Buffalo at St. Louis
Washington at Dallas
Philadelphia at Chicago

MON, SEP 29
Baltimore at Pittsburgh
 
FrenchMovieTheme said:
yes im mad! OMFG IM MAD!

i will feed off your bitter tears when the 49ers finish with a better record than the stealers. mmmmmm
When is the last time that happened?

Even without an offensive line, we still have the Messiah and a top 5 defense. What exactly do the Niners have?
 
what do the niners have? lets see:

- JTO
- Frank the tank
- Pwill, nate the great, justin smith (the one TRUE great white DE/lb hybrid!)
- mike martz

what do the niners not have?

- omar epps

can't wait till we play you guys again in 3 years in san fran where you dont get your bullshit home cooking calls.

p.s. allen rossum scored a TD for us last week... on offense! and he has been great in the return game! your loss stealers!
 
FrenchMovieTheme said:
what do the niners have? lets see:

- JTO
- Frank the tank
- Pwill, nate the great, justin smith (the one TRUE great white DE/lb hybrid!)
- mike martz

what do the niners not have?

- omar epps

can't wait till we play you guys again in 3 years in san fran where you dont get your bullshit home cooking calls.

p.s. allen rossum scored a TD for us last week... on offense! and he has been great in the return game! your loss stealers!
Why not aim big this season instead of waiting? Super Bowl battle for the 6th ring!
 
FrenchMovieTheme said:
what do the niners have? lets see:

- JTO
- Frank the tank
- Pwill, nate the great, justin smith (the one TRUE great white DE/lb hybrid!)
- mike martz

what do the niners not have?

- omar epps

can't wait till we play you guys again in 3 years in san fran where you dont get your bullshit home cooking calls.

p.s. allen rossum scored a TD for us last week... on offense! and he has been great in the return game! your loss stealers!
I give you Frank the Tank and Martz. Both upgrades over what the Steelers have. JTO isn't in the same league as Big Ben though.

And I will take the Omar Epps and the Steelers defense over Nolan and the Niners defense (admittedly not bad, but I don't think they are as good as the Steelers). Harrison and Polamalu are both pro bowl level defenders and are game changers.
 
I for one welcome this proposed matchup between the Steelers and Niners in the Superbowl.

I like that matchup a lot better than against the Eagles or Cowboys...
 
It would make up for the battle we were supposed to have for the 5th ring back in 94 if you guys didn't let the freaking Chargers win the AFC championship that year.

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true it would be battle for the 6th ring, but only 1 team in the 5 superbowl winners club is undefeated in superbowls. only one team managed to show up for the biggest game of the year everytime they went!
 
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