Official NHL 2007 Off-Season Thread - Fans of the banished teams unite!

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The Internet said:
Do we really want Redden at $6.5 million or whatever it is?

Did he just have an off year? He looked terrible in the Playoffs.
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Yes we need him
I dont care if he had an off season.
 
I'd personally rather go after Joni Pitkanen, I realise Redden has a condo there in Edmonton and is an Alberta boy, but I just think a guy like Pitkanen would have more upside for the same price.
 
I'm fine with either...

I hope we don't blow our load trying to sign Sheldon Souray.
He is NOT what we need. Maybe if we get Redden also.. but not as a substitute.
 
Sources say a key factor in Muckler's demise was the inability to get winger Gary Roberts from Florida at the trade deadline in March -- defying specific instructions from Melnyk to do so.

In the end, the Senators refused to give up the No. 1 pick and instead picked up Oleg Saprykin from the Phoenix Coyotes.

An NHL source said yesterday Melnyk summoned Muckler to a meeting in New York a few days after the trade deadline. Muckler was asked to explain why the club didn't get Roberts and "was put on notice then."
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Hmmmmm.....


The Internet said:
John Muckler kicked to the curb!

Murray the new G.M.
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Pat Quinn to Ottawa as new coach??!!

Now that would be hilarious....
 
Manics said:
JFJ is a neo-GM in the new NHL. He's got a master plan and is sticking to it. Old farts like Muckler don't have a clue what it takes to be successful.
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Maybe he should change that plan...
 
ForzaItalia said:
Quinn signs on as coach...Roberts soon follows...Domi comes out of retirement...Belfour is traded for at the deadline...
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*teardrop*

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I'm interested to see where this goes, I can't wait till they announce the new coach, I just hope it's not one of our assistants.
 
GSG Flash said:
I'm interested to see where this goes, I can't wait till they announce the new coach, I just hope it's not one of our assistants.
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Gar!!! Hitchcock is already signed, yes?

I'm not sure who else is out there. I'm thankful that Keenan is out of the market. :)

Sens should be due for a 2003 Ducks type draft now.
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But I can't wait 3 years for a Cup. :/
 
djkimothy said:
Gar!!! Hitchcock is already signed, yes?

I'm not sure who else is out there. I'm thankful that Keenan is out of the market. :)



But I can't wait 3 years for a Cup. :/
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Pat Burns


Murray might be Gm/Coach or John Paddock the assisstant coach could take over. :(
 
MrToughPants said:
Pat Burns


Murray might be Gm/Coach or John Paddock the assisstant coach could take over. :(
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He said he's going to hire a coach, he's not taking the dual responsibilities. I hope to god John Paddock isn't hired as the head coach, I want him to stay as assistant but promoting him to head coach would be a big mistake.
 
Did we ever hear why Redden played most of the season like the worst dman you've ever seen? He didn't get shit done on O, and in his end he was a second rate Fredrik Olausson for most of it. Just unbelievable to think back on it.


Sucks for Muckler really. Granted, your boss telling you to go get x and not doing it is pretty much giving yourself the kiss of death, but most ppl seem to agree (especially with hindsight) that the asking price was way too high and the team was better without making the trade. From a hockey standpoint, Muckler did the right thing in not giving up a first rounder - even a late one - for a 3 month rental of an old player. From a pissing-off-your-boss standpoint though... :lol
 
calder said:
Did we ever hear why Redden played most of the season like the worst dman you've ever seen? He didn't get shit done on O, and in his end he was a second rate Fredrik Olausson for most of it. Just unbelievable to think back on it.
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His money sack was slowing him down.
 
From Eklund... (i know.. i know..)


Something Big and Surprising May Be Happening soon...
Today @ 2:16 PM ET
Stay tuned...sorry for the vagueness! I will tell you if it will or won't happen...it involves one team from each conference.
 
dem said:
From Eklund... (i know.. i know..)


Something Big and Surprising May Be Happening soon...
Today @ 2:16 PM ET
Stay tuned...sorry for the vagueness! I will tell you if it will or won't happen...it involves one team from each conference.
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So basically...nothing big is gonna happen anytime soon?
 
eklund was right

The Philadelphia Flyers have dipped into the free agent market a little early, thanks to the Nashville Predators.

Because of Nashville's uncertain ownership future and an expected tight budget in the coming year, sources tell TSN the Predators arranged with the Flyers to give them exclusive negotiating rights to two coveted free agents - defenceman Kimmo Timonen and forward Scott Hartnell.

Sources tell TSN the Flyers have now signed both Hartnell and Timonen to long-term contracts.

Hartnell, who was scheduled to become a free agent on July 1, signed with Flyers on a 6-year, $25.2 million deal for a cap hit of $4.2 million per year.

The Flyers also agreed to terms with Timonen on a 6-year, $37.8 million contract for an annual cap hit of $6.3 million.



In exchange for giving up the rights to the two free agents the Predators knew they would not be able to sign, Nashville received back its own first round pick that it gave to the Flyers as part of the Peter Forsberg trade.


BASTARDS

****ING PHILLY

Is Bobby Clarke still with Philly?
This smells like a Bobby Clarke move..
 
Oh Shyt.

Those are pretty high prices for good, non-elite players. The Flyers are setting a bad precedent :(
 
Yeah that's BS, Hartnell shouldn't have gotten anything more than 3.5 per. Now that's going to raise the price for signing Fisher next year :(
 
i didn't know you could do that.

hartnell at that price is kind of a rip off. i wouldn't have minded him on the canucks but that's just... a lot of money.
 
What the ****.

So Forsberg was rented for half of Nashville's roster... Why is the Nashville GM still alive? :lol

Flyers sole purpose in the NHL is to piss off other franchises. UFA prices are up big time now.

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What would make this even worse would be Forsberg signing with Philly for cheap. :lol
 
djkimothy said:
Maybe he should change that plan...
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Foundations need to be built before the dream of a dynasty can be realized. People who built their houses on shaky foundations soon see the walls and roof cave in on them, like the Senators. Once JFJ completes the foundation building on the Leafs, the future will be bright for another true NHL dynasty.
 
Nashville basically shit balling their roster out of spite, confirmed. :lol

Wow, the Flyers really overpaid those guys. Good move overall though. I guess Nashville was basically going to lose these two guys anyways, so atleast they got something...I guess.
 
I get the impression that this won't set a precedent, given what's happened in TB with the Richards and Lecavalier signings. Of course, that may just wishful thinking.

Manics said:
Foundations need to be built before the dream of a dynasty can be realized. People who built their houses on shaky foundations soon see the walls and roof cave in on them, like the Senators. Once JFJ completes the foundation building on the Leafs, the future will be bright for another true NHL dynasty.
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:lol I did kind of miss having this around.
 
Wow those signings reek of Clarke. REEK. :lol

6.3 for Timonen is a bit steep, but he's probably worth it. If you got him for 5.9 per you'd think it was a good price so 6.3 isn't so bad I guess for one of the better dmen around.

4.2 for Hartnell seems almost reasonable, 6 years for a physical guy with a concussion history like him is a bit much but hey that's the Flyers Way.
 
calder said:
4.2 for Hartnell seems almost reasonable, 6 years for a physical guy with a concussion history like him is a bit much but hey that's the Flyers Way.
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"6 years for a guy with concussion history?!"

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"HA!"

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"I would have signed for 10!"
 
that's crazy money for hartnell. the media hyped him from 2.5 to 3.5 and he still pulled 4.2, niceeee
 
Damn... I fear with Malkin, Whitney and Staal are going to command on the open market when they are up.

Edit: Whitney is up for contract this offseason. If Kimmo is 6.2 per season, and Whitney outscored him, i'm sure he is going to get a 4 mil per year deal easily...
 
poile pretty much waived the white flag on the radio today. with leipold staying the owner through free agency, there's no money in the budget to work with. he couldn't resign timmo or hartnell, says he probably can't get kariya and that with the uncertain future of the team combined with the budget, we won't be doing much in free agency

good times
 
.. Ray Ferraro, who should know, tells Team 1040 that Brett Hull's short-lived career as a hockey analyst with NBC is over ...
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Interesting little tidbit, I'm sure Ray is just broken up about it. :lol I only watched him for a few minutes but I thought he was awful and most of the ppl in the NHL threads here didn't seem terribly impressed.
 
Edit: Whitney is up for contract this offseason. If Kimmo is 6.2 per season, and Whitney outscored him, i'm sure he is going to get a 4 mil per year deal easily...
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Doesn't work like that. Whitney just finished up his first full season. Timonen's almost 10 years older and has played in almost 600 career games. Service time and a proven track record count big time in contracts as does unresitricted free agency. Whitney will get in the $2-2.5 million range at most for next season unless they manage to sign him long-term in which case they might give him more with the idea that he'll be at a bargain price towards the end of his deal.
 
Leafs interested in Muckler or Bowman?:


At 73 years of age John Muckler has no intention of calling it quits.

With over 50 years of professional hockey experience that boasts five Stanley Cup championships he wants to go out on his own terms and losing his job as general manager of the Ottawa Senators is not how he envisioned his career would end.

Although possible, its unlikely Muckler will get offered another managers post, but his wealth of knowledge and time invested in the game carries great value.

The Toronto Maple Leafs are believed to be quietly searching for a senior hockey presence. A veteran hockey man Leafs general manager John Ferguson, among others, will be able to lean on for guidance. The position remains just a concept, but already the names of highly decorated candidates such as Scotty Bowman have surfaced.

John Muckler's name will be on the Maple Leafs list and Muckler will have interest in investigating what this newly created position entails. However, a source close to the Maple Leafs says the team hasn't signed off on when, or if they will move forward with this plan.

The source added, 'it all depends on whether they find the right fit.'
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Wow...JFJ is such a puppet...:lol
 
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