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LOL ONE OF THE FLAMES SCOUTS PICKED A CENTER WHEN SUTTER WASN'T LOOKING! HUZZAH!

I'm not as high on Ryder as some of you guys are, but I don't know much about him.

Stolen from hockeysfuture:
It is not hard to see the resemblance between Daniel Ryder and his older brother Michael of the Montreal Canadiens. Last year Michael Ryder, a former eighth round pick, notched a surprising 63 points as a rookie with Montreal. Never a top prospect, Michael had a stellar junior career, but made two stops in the ECHL on his way to NHL. What both brothers have is a natural ability to score that is hard to quantify. As much as the term ‘hockey sense’ has become a cliché in the hockey world, this is the best way to explain how the two siblings score.

Daniel, a 5-11, 180-pound center from Newfoundland, followed up a strong rookie campaign with Peterborough by scoring 29 goals and 82 points this past season. The Petes experienced a 31-point improvement between the two years, and the fact Ryder was tied for tenth in league scoring with linemate Liam Reddox (EDM) was a big reason why. A deceptive skater, Ryder was always impressive defensively and was a fixture on the penalty kill.

Ryder had a solid playoff until the Ottawa 67s swept the Petes in the conference finals. His line was invisible the entire series, although Ryder remained valuable on the penalty kill. He is ahead of where his brother was at the same age in terms of development, but NHL scouts are wary to use a first round pick on a player that appears to overachieve simply because they know how to play the game.
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Hmm, sounds pretty good. I like any third round pick that ppl can say has an innate ability to score goals. With his good defense and solid work ethic he'll fit in well in Calgary in a few years if it still has the same sort of attitude Sutter has instilled there.
 
Syvret picked by the Oilers.

Oilers really going for smaller guys this year. Last few years theyve been drafting giants.
 
Just got home from work......glad to see you all holding the fort here. Sounds like a good draft. I'm very happy with the Leafs aquiring O'Neil. He's a good guy and he deserves to play for the team he wants to....plus I'm a big fan. :) Sounds like most of our teams were winners today.
 
Malakhov said:
Stop it fifty I might start to like you and then not hate the leafs as much as I do.
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Good :) As a Leaf fan I defend my team way too much so I'm going to be nice to all of you and see if I get some respect in return ;D

Back to business....1.5 for a guy with Jeff's potential (yes he's coming off a bad year, I know) is a fantastic deal. He's a bit like Nolan, and he could potentially be a bust, but it's just too good to pass up. Jason Allison (see canucks fans, I don't want all the biggest stars) would be the ideal first FA signed if we can do it for about the same or perhaps 2.

p.s

TUUKKA RASK (I think I remember him from the Star Wars cantina)

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He had a bad year but he could bounce back, it was more of a humanitarian trade anyhow, his brother died in a car crash 2 weeks ago and he's from Toronto. Nice move by Carolina.
 
dem said:
Oilers grab Trukhno at 120. HUGE steal
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Easy there, Pierre.

Fifty said:
Good As a Leaf fan I defend my team way too much so I'm going to be nice to all of you and see if I get some respect in return ;D
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Well, I think it's just the shear {arrog, ignor}ance of the majority of Leaf fans that drive most people to hate them. I don't mind the non-zealot fans at all. Granted, I think this kind of goes for Toronto in general.
 
Code: 
179 	CGY 	BRETT SUTTER 		Viking, AB 	CA 	5' 11" 	192 	WHL 	KOOTENAY 	C/LW 	L

OMG NEPOTISM.


Code: 
26 	CGY 	MATT PELECH 	 	Toronto, ON 	CA 	6' 3" 	220 	OHL 	SARNIA 	D 
69 	CGY     GORD BALDWIN 	 	Winnipeg, MB 	CA 	6' 5" 	199 	WHL 	MEDICINE HAT 	D 
74 	CGY   	DAN RYDER 	 	Bonavista, NF 	CA 	5' 10" 	193 	OHL 	PETERBOROUGH 	C
111 	CGY 	J.D. WATT 	 	Calgary, AB 	CA 	6' 1" 	198 	WHL 	VANCOUVER 	RW 
128 	CGY  	KEVIN LALANDE 	 	Kingston, ON 	CA 	5' 11" 	175 	OHL 	BELLEVILLE 	G 
158 	CGY 	MATT KEETLEY 	 	Medicine Hat, AB 	CA 	6' 0" 	165 	WHL 	MEDICINE HAT 	G
Overall, not bad. It's not the Flames fault they got screwed on the lottery and missed out on so many great talents in the top 20 or so. I don't much like the top 2 picks but they certainly don't look bad, they just aren't the players (or types of players) I would have liked to see the Flames get. I'm coming around on Dan Ryder, and if one of the later round picks ends up being a quality NHLer that's a bonus. I like taking goalies late like that because if you don't get a can't-miss top 10 goalie it's such a crapshoot.
 
fallout said:
Easy there, Pierre.

Well, I think it's just the shear {arrog, ignor}ance of the majority of Leaf fans that drive most people to hate them. I don't mind the non-zealot fans at all. Granted, I think this kind of goes for Toronto in general.
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you don't know many toronto hockey fans then or see many

We aren't the yankees. We know that. We might have a good team but we still don't have a cup since 1967.

Though one thing you must ask is why is toronto one of the largest franchises in north america with the highest amount of sellouts with the highest ticket prices and the craziest fans if we haven't been a winner in so many years?
 
DopeyFish said:
you don't know many toronto hockey fans then or see many
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I live in Toronto.

We aren't the yankees. We know that. We might have a good team but we still don't have a cup since 1967.
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That might have something to do with how the money's being spent. Sure, the yanks have a lot of money, but they also see results.

Though one thing you must ask is why is toronto one of the largest franchises in north america with the highest amount of sellouts with the highest ticket prices and the craziest fans if we haven't been a winner in so many years?
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I'm not entirely sure why. It's a testament to the fans, but that still doesn't mean that the majority of them don't completely ignore the fact that there are great fans (and great hockey) elsewhere in Canada and the US. Like I said in my previous post, that just seems to be a TO thing all around though ... it's centre of the universe.


dem said:
I wouldnt have been all that unhappy if the Oilers took Trukhno with their #25 pick.. muchless the end of the 4th.
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:lol No need to defend yourself, I do agree. Just making reference to this.
 
fallout said:
I live in Toronto.
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Wow. Surely you weren't born here, right? This isn't Toronto-Centric, I just can't imagine not being a fan of the home team :D

Anyway, you seem like a nice guy...so I'll give you a free pass on whatever your favorite team is ;) Just remember that the GA Leaf fans do not think Toronto is the center of the universe and we know we're not the best team (no cup in ages...c'mon!) so do your best and try to get past the stereotype people :D If you can't....let us know and we'll act like jackasses so you get your money's worth.
 
Fifty said:
Wow. Surely you weren't born here, right? This isn't Toronto-Centric, I just can't imagine not being a fan of the home team :D
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Heh, no, I wasn't born here. Definitely a nice city though, I just have some complaints with the people .. nothing major, but when the topic comes up, it comes up.

Anyway, you seem like a nice guy...so I'll give you a free pass on whatever your favorite team is ;) Just remember that the GA Leaf fans do not think Toronto is the center of the universe and we know we're not the best team (no cup in ages...c'mon!) so do your best and try to get past the stereotype people :D If you can't....let us know and we'll act like jackasses so you get your money's worth.
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Hey, nothing's ever black and white. You guys are fine, but I just tend to rant off sometimes. A lack of jackassery is most welcome. :D
 
Same with Naslund and Forsberg, I think. Realistically we have a shot at Kariya, and maybe Foote (edit: Yes, Gonchar, I forgot about him. He wants to play here and his offense would be nice in this new offensive-minded league), but the marketplace is so unknown right now so anything could happen. Monday should be very interesting. (finally a reason to look forward to a monday)
 
Everybody has a shot with Kariya... but he doesn't fit the leafs.


Forget about him.

I think Gainey's going after him. Much more in the line of what montreal needs.
 
Fifty said:
Same with Naslund and Forsberg, I think. Realistically we have a shot at Kariya, and maybe Foote (edit: Yes, Gonchar, I forgot about him. He wants to play here and his offense would be nice in this new offensive-minded league), but the marketplace is so unknown right now so anything could happen. Monday should be very interesting. (finally a reason to look forward to a monday)
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Foote and Gonchar would be solid
 
The Bookerman said:
Forget about him.

I think Gainey's going after him. Much more in the line of what montreal needs.
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:( You're probably right. I'd take Allison over him anyway.

Jonsson, I'd be amazed if we could afford both Gonchar AND Foote, since we've got to make some more offensive FA signings as well, but of course that situation is ideal.
 
Hmm...still no big deals.
I have a feeling that the first big deal will be a catalyst for several big deals to go down... especially with rival teams.
 
Fifty said:
:( You're probably right. I'd take Allison over him anyway.

Jonsson, I'd be amazed if we could afford both Gonchar AND Foote, since we've got to make some more offensive FA signings as well, but of course that situation is ideal.
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Whats our cap at now anyway?
 
Pochacco said:
Hmm...still no big deals.
I have a feeling that the first big deal will be a catalyst for several big deals to go down... especially with rival teams.
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Well then I hope Buffalo and Ottawa load up quickly
 
BigJonsson said:
Is it still 8 players? now that Nolan is gone and O'Niell is here?
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well nolan is $5.6 million going out and O'neill is $1.5 million coming in

Same amount of players, just a lower amount now.
 
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Who are those 32 yr old beer leaguers standing next to Crosby :lol
Johnson and Ryan look to be built like barrels in that picture.
 
dem said:
Could people be more insensitive? Every single fucking interview with Pouliot they have to talk about his father dying. Jesus fuck.
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:lol :lol :lol




Malakhov said:
Great move from Carolina, they send Oneil to his hometown since he lost his brother 2 weeks ago.
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Yeah, around the same time the CBA was ratified...died after he got thrown through the window of his truck. Alas he wasn't wearing a seatbelt, so it's hard for me to feel that sympathetic for him (cold as that sounds)...must suck for the O'Neils though.





Malakhov said:
Latendresse with the Habs! OMG!
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:lol Guess that makes up for the earlier pick.





DopeyFish said:
Though one thing you must ask is why is toronto one of the largest franchises in north america with the highest amount of sellouts with the highest ticket prices and the craziest fans if we haven't been a winner in so many years?
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Because we're fucking morons. Seriously.







BigJonsson said:
Whoa, a player rumoured to be coming to Toronto is actually here!

*waits for the rest to follow*
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:lol

CP Wire - In a historic day for the Toronto Maple Leafs, General Manager Pat Quinn held a press conference to announce the signings of Chris Pronger, Scott Neidermayer, Adam Foote, Paul Kariya and Peter Forsberg to multi-year contracts. Financial terms were not disclosed, but Quinn denied that under-the-table payments were made to sweeten the pot. Quinn also rebuked the suggestion that a "large sum of money" was mailed to the NHL's offices at the Air Canada Centre so they would "look the other way".

Later at the same press conference, Pat Quinn told Owen Nolan to "f--- himself". It's not known whether or not the personal relationship between the two has been damaged, though sources indicate "it doesn't look good".
 
I love all you Leafs fans, but if you don't stop chanting go leafs go at games where neither teams are the Leafs I'm going to kill every last one of you. :)
 
aceface said:
I love all you Leafs fans, but if you don't stop chanting go leafs go at games where neither teams are the Leafs I'm going to kill every last one of you. :)
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Does that shit actually happen? You have got to be kidding....
 
Reading up about the draft, Latendresse might not be our biggest steal but Juraj Mikus might be.

When it's all well and done I'm very happy with our picks, Price, Latendresse and Mikus is very, very nice.
 
Tedesco! said:
Does that shit actually happen? You have got to be kidding....
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I don't like painting leaf fans in a negative light, and this could be true for fans of other teams (I don't live in another city so I can't say) but at the last few Jays games there have been some (albeit drunk!) people cheering "Go Leafs Go" randomly. Then again, I've heard Argo chants too, so I think there's just a large number of idiots. Alcohol + large population + sports fans = your fair share of idiots.
 
Ok. I go to the Blue Jackets games with great frequency, and I doubt I'd last long if I were cheering for a team that wasn't playing. Still, I find it a bit funny.
 
Read about the Habs picks, Price was their 5th ranked prospect, so I guess they got what they wanted at their pick. It probably went like this:

Crosby
Johnson
Pouliot
Ryan
Price

Means they thought Brule was a 6th pick and over. It's true that we have many small forwards in the farm already.
 
DopeyFish said:
Though one thing you must ask is why is toronto one of the largest franchises in north america with the highest amount of sellouts with the highest ticket prices and the craziest fans if we haven't been a winner in so many years?
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Canada's largest city.
 
spliced said:
Canada's largest city.
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Well the fact that they haven't won in a long time shows some dedication, IMO. Here in Calgary, people hated the Flames with a passion until the last third of the season.

The general public still didn't give a damn when the Flames made it into the playoffs. Most people said, "they aren't going far anyways".

When they beat Vancouver, you started seeing flags on cars. When they beat Detroit, you saw a lot more. 17th ave got a reputation, and then the Flames got big when they made it into the final. The city was extremely proud of the Flames, but it took a while for the city to even care.

And then when the lockout happened you saw articles in the papers such as "Glad hockey is not back, sure the run was fun but no one really cares blah blah blah".

If it was up to me, I'd move the Flames to Winnipeg. Alberta already has a hockey team, don't need a second one.

Anyways, Toronto doesn't seem like that kind of place. Sure, the population is big, but people love the Leafs, despite the ups and downs. That's what matters most. If the team is down and the fans are still there...they are dedicated.
 
Fight for Freeform said:
Well the fact that they haven't won in a long time shows some dedication, IMO. Here in Calgary, people hated the Flames with a passion until the last third of the season.
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Definitely IYO. I went to four regular season games and read the papers regularily enough to know the city loves it's team. But considering that Iginla was on the trade-away bubble, Turek turned out to be a flop, the team was failing to rebuild - just as badly as the Rangers - and the constant financial threat affecting the province, it was tough to be as passionate as much as Torontonians, who, winning or not, can afford enough stars and spend enough cash to at least make the playoffs when they want to.

The general public still didn't give a damn when the Flames made it into the playoffs. Most people said, "they aren't going far anyways".
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The general public couldn't afford tickets. They had a hot streak for a chunk of the season and buying something other than the grocery store nosebleeds was difficult.
 
Crazymoogle said:
The general public couldn't afford tickets. They had a hot streak for a chunk of the season and buying something other than the grocery store nosebleeds was difficult.
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That's actually a really good point. So many oil bigwigs downtown and the salespeople there buy the tickets at high prices, but most Flames fans can't really afford to go often. The real fans who were with the Flames all along couldn't see much of the season to begin with. It's really apparent when you listen to the FAN 960. :)
 
That's even more of a factor when it comes to Leafs games. We can't even rely on getting "grocery store nosebleeds" for less than $50 or so off of scalpers. If you want anything in the lower deck....any time during a season...oh boy, get ready to bring out those $100's. It sucks watching the first 10 minutes of every period on TV and seeing the platinums empty as the people are too busy schmoozing in the lounges to get to their seats in time.
 
Fight for Freeform said:
That's actually a really good point. So many oil bigwigs downtown and the salespeople there buy the tickets at high prices, but most Flames fans can't really afford to go often. The real fans who were with the Flames all along couldn't see much of the season to begin with. It's really apparent when you listen to the FAN 960. :)
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Listening to FAN 960 is kinda questionable (heh) but yeah, it is sort of overmarketed in order to reach saturation. Both of the playoff games I made it to (round 1 and round 3) were only because a relative who works for a oil company won a lottery draw (winning meant the right to buy a ticket, not a free one...). 2 of the 4 season games I went to were due to similar coincidences.

And for what it's worth, yeah it's expensive but the chrysler club seating is awesome enough to go to at least once (sat 5th row, during a turek game sadly). I still couldn't believe I could order dinner from my seat! :lol
 
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