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Official NHL CBA Conclusion thread! HOSANNAH, BITCHES

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Ah, good ol' JR. We should bring him just to push Vancouver's sports media over the top once and for all. Tony Gallagher egging him on in print, Dave Pratt taking shots on the radio...It'd be like Burke never left.
 
Do we have any Philly fans here? I hope not....they're classless enough to begin with. Give them a player like Forsberg and we're doomed :( DOOMED! Maybe he'll decide he wants to stay in Sweden! Do it Peter! Nicer women than in Philly...
 
Manics said:
Forza you an italian soccer fan dude? I'm a Juventus man myself since I have relatives in Italy who are Juventus crazy and I have always supported them since I was a kid. At least they give me some winners unlike the Leafs :(

Paolo Rossi forever man!
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Juventus for life bro! I'll never forget Paolo Rossi and that 1982 run. Awesome! :D

P.S. Insane news for Philly fans. Always hated the Flyers but boy do they mean business.
 
Man if the Leafs don't do anything, I'm gonna hate being around here when the bitching starts. Hell who am I kidding, the bitching is gonna happen anyways with the idiots who thought we could have got every free agent. :(
 
Kicko said:
Craziest off-season ever.
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Agreed.

Meanwhile in Leafs' gm office:

Ferguson logs on TSN.ca...

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Ferguson's reaction:

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Myllz said:
There's goes Buffalo's season. Forsberg will lead the league in points just from playing us 8 times a year.
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God, that's scary.

Hopefully we'll be alright. I think Darcy has a few tricks under his sleeve. We probably won't dip into the free agency pool. Perhaps a few Edmonton type moves are in the works.
 
curious: would buying out a contract go against any salary cap? Would buying out a contract then negotiating a new contract be legal?

If it is legal, why can't the Leafs use their enormous amounts of cash and take out belfour and sundin and sign them to entry level contracts?

(whispers to JFJ: give them money under the table and renegotiate their contracts and pay them under the table! garrr!)
 
Fer Chrissakes Dopey, the salary cap provision alone in the new CBA runs 600 pages. You think they haven't thought of every underhanded trick in the book some enterprising GM of a shitty Eastern team might try? You Maple Leafs - you can't even say you're cheating to win, you want to cheat to barely compete! :lol

btw leafs suck
 
Malakhov said:
Can't buyout a player and resign him after.
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boo-urns!

if the leafs can sign lindros, allison, mogilny and a good defensive defenseman like yuskevich i think we'll be alright.

As long as every other team ignores mogilny which i consider the 2nd best FA that was available after forsberg (with rule changes in mind) then i think the leafs will be ok.

bishoptl said:
btw leafs suck
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you suck!

must keep hope! hope!

:'<
 
DopeyFish said:
As long as every other team ignores mogilny which i consider the 2nd best FA that was available after forsberg (with rule changes in mind) then i think the leafs will be ok.
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I love Mogilny but I really have to question his desire, age and health right about now. He's just looking for a retirement contract.
 
Every other team is ignoring Mogilny because of his gimpy knees and hip. I love the guy personally - easily the most candid interview in the league behind Brett Hull and JR - but his best days were behind him when he was in a Canuck uniform, never mind before joining the fossil collection at the ACC.
 
ForzaItalia said:
I love Mogilny but I really have to question his desire, age and health right about now. He's just looking for a retirement contract.
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he is a stellar player. You open up the game and remove the clutch and grab bs and i think mogilny will be one of the top point leaders in the league. He has been really limited by the game of old

bishoptl said:
Every other team is ignoring Mogilny because of his gimpy knees and hip. I love the guy personally - easily the most candid interview in the league behind Brett Hull and JR - but his best days were behind him when he was in a Canuck uniform, never mind before joining the fossil collection at the ACC.
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his best days were with buffalo damnit.
 
DopeyFish said:
he is a stellar player. You open up the game and remove the clutch and grab bs and i think mogilny will be one of the top point leaders in the league. He has been really limited by the game of old
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Dopey it is his health and age that has limited his production most recently.
 
DopeyFish said:
his best days were with buffalo damnit.
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That's what Bish meant.
I like Mogilny too. He's pretty underrated and often gets overlooked.

Eww...Flyers band-wagon jumpers?
Screw that. I used to like Forsberg but now I hate him. YUCK!

Sakic > Forsberg; and it's always been this way.
 
ForzaItalia said:
Dopey it is his health and age that has limited his production most recently.
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I watch leafs religiously. There was only one time where it looked like the injury limiting his ability. But most often it's the flow of the play that kills it. Give him enough room and he almost always buries it. Give him enough room and you won't catch him. That was the problem. He never got enough room.


and what's up with roenick? The Score is just saying roenick traded to kings but nothing else.... did they just say "Here LA! Take him!"?
 
Not done yet, other teams like PHX in the run apparently.
Stupid RDS reporting Simon Gagné is on the trading block, hehe right.
 
DopeyFish said:
and what's up with roenick? The Score is just saying roenick traded to kings but nothing else.... did they just say "Here LA! Take him!"?
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Signing Forsberg put the Flyers over the cap, they pretty much have to give Roenick away for free.
 
Oilers say new acquisitions Pronger and Peca put them back on NHL map

posted August 3 @ 19:34, EST

EDMONTON (CP) - The Edmonton Oilers pulled the trigger on two big trades in 18 hours, firing what they hope will be a shot heard 'round the NHL that they are again ready to compete for top talent.

The Oilers acquired centre Michael Peca from the New York Islanders Wednesday in exchange for forward Michael York and a conditional draft pick. Just hours earlier, late Tuesday night, they traded for - and signed - former Hart and Norris trophy-winning defenceman Chris Pronger from the St. Louis Blues.

Peca, the five-foot-11, 190-pound forward from Toronto, had 11 goals and 29 assists and was plus-17 in 76 regular-season games for the Islanders in 2003-04.

He has twice been named the NHL's top defensive forward and is scheduled to make $3.99 million US this season.

Peca said he could see the writing on the wall with the Islanders, who were hard-pressed to balance the budget under the new $39-million US salary cap and provide scoring on the wings for Alexei Yashin.

He said he's looking forward to playing with the Oilers.

"Having been in the Eastern Conference for so long, there's times you get a tendency to become so defensive-minded," he said.

"I have a chance now to go to the Western Conference and play for a skating team, an offensive skating team. It's going to be tremendously exciting."

York, five-foot-10 and 185 pounds, had 16 goals and 26 assists in 64 games for Edmonton the last season the NHL operated.

Lowe said the strong play of Oiler forward Ales Hemsky at the recent World Championships, among other factors, "gave us the desire and comfort to be able to move a guy like Mike York."

In Pronger, the Oilers want the six-foot-six, 220-pound defenceman from Dryden, Ont., to play 30 minutes a night, anchor the power play, hammer people in front of the net and make crisp bullet passes to streaking winners up the middle.

"There's nothing in the game he can't do," said Oilers head coach Craig MacTavish. "There's nothing in the game that he doesn't excel at. He's got an edge to him, which we all know in our division is going to be really important this year."

Pronger said he knew the Blues were strapped under the salary cap by the combined salaries of Pronger, Keith Tkachuk and Doug Weight at $19.7 million.

He said Lowe pursued the deal with the Blues on Monday and by Tuesday it was done and he signed on.

"They definitely move fast, that's for sure," he said.

He said he came to Edmonton because "first and foremost they wanted me. I think any player just wants to be wanted.

"They obviously made a long-term commitment to me, which I was looking for, and they've got some exciting young forwards up front with a lot of speed, some very solid defenceman to complement me and some good goaltending."

Pronger signed a five-year contract worth $31.25-million US.

The 30-year-old has played in four NHL all-star games and is also a two-time Olympian.

He has amassed 400 points, including 94 goals, in 722 career NHL games since he was drafted second overall in 1993.

Lowe sent defenceman Eric Brewer along with blue-line prospects Doug Lynch and Jeff Woywitka to St. Louis in the deal.

The key loss was Brewer. The 26-year-old from Vernon, B.C., has played six seasons in the NHL including the last four with Edmonton while collecting 113 points, including 34 goals, in 404 games. But the Oilers were said to want more offensive output from Brewer.

Peca and Pronger represent the two big holes the Oilers said they wanted to fill to challenge again for a playoff spot.

The acquisitions, particularly Pronger, are a godsend for a team that ruled the hockey world in their Stanley Cup dynasty days of the 1980s but couldn't compete in the era of high player salaries that followed.

The team sunk to average, at times mediocre, with a reputation for losing or dumping stars like Bill Guerin, Doug Weight and Curtis Joseph when they could no longer match the big bucks other teams were willing to throw around.

Lowe admitted that in those days, the Oilers weren't exactly on any agent's speed dial.

"We hope that this changes that sentiment with the players," he said.

The Edmonton Investors Group, which took over the team in 1998 when it looked like the franchise was heading out of town, says it has lost money in six of eight years. The team survived a $14-million cash call in 2001.

"People have been very patient with us in Edmonton because of our fiscal needs and responsibilities," said chairman Cal Nichols. "So this has a huge message to it."
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Sounds pretty good. Both guys are excited to play.
Just 1 more forward Lowe, some fine-tweaking, and we are SET.
 
Malakhov said:
Not done yet, other teams like PHX in the run apparently.
Stupid RDS reporting Simon Gagné is on the trading block, hehe right.
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Gagné on the trading block?

:lol Wishful thinking: Maybe the habs can undo their LOUSY job of picking Chouinard instead of Gagné :P


Geez. Man this is totally nuts.
 
Malik didn't do shit, and Sopel's hair (plus his streaky scoring) was all he had going for him. A welcome price to pay if it brings a BC boy back home WHERE HE BELONGS.

grab the cakes, Nonis

grab the cakes
 
8/3/2005 7:46:10 PM

The race to land free agent defenceman Scott Niedermayer is down to three teams, TSN has learned. According to NHL sources, the teams are New Jersey, San Jose and Anaheim
 
Malakhov said:
I'd take Sopel and Malik instead of Nierdermayer for sure. Good luck with Cloutier in the net now ;)
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:lol I forgot about Cloutier.

Go get Nikolai Khabibulin instead of Niedermayer.

Cloutier's a good ... Backup goalie, will never be more than that.

By the way, what's happenin with Pavel Bure?
 
Malakhov said:
I'd take Sopel and Malik instead of Nierdermayer for sure.
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You're high on smack.

Pavel's knees are completely shot. He's done in the NHL, they just need to make it official.
 
Er Nierdermayer is the best D in the league right now, I've even argued about it in this thread but no way I'd give a pair of Malik and Sopel for him man.

WTF are you guys gonna do now if Nieds sign elsewhere? Good game.
 
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