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Official North American Lost Odyssey Thread
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Scenester said:
Yeah, I didn't find those optional bosses to be difficult at all... Except maybe one, but that's because it only gets hurt by a certain attack, but when you figure that out you can blow him away pretty quickly (assuming you have double cast and the spell in question.)
mjc said:
Yeah, I think if that happend more often than not, logical people would be fed up with the 360... Especially if you're doing something as tedious as grinding...
dirtmonkey37
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So the game has, internationally, hit the 300K milestone in terms of units sold.
The game has released in Europe, no?
The game has released in Europe, no?
I'm going nuts here trying to find all the chests. Will chests from places you can't go back to DEFINITELY be available at the Auction House? They've shut up shop now, I've found all 11 hidden chests and I just cannot find what I'm missing. At this point I can't help but wonder if I missed a chest in a place I can't go back to, that didn't turn up for auction. Any suggestions?
EDIT: I capitulated and looked at a guide. You actually have to everything, including items in pots/boxes/whatever to get the Treasure Trove achievement, despite the fact that it only says you need to open all the treasure chests? What BS. So if I missed a pot on the Experimental Staff, for instance, I'm screwed?
EDIT: I capitulated and looked at a guide. You actually have to everything, including items in pots/boxes/whatever to get the Treasure Trove achievement, despite the fact that it only says you need to open all the treasure chests? What BS. So if I missed a pot on the Experimental Staff, for instance, I'm screwed?
OK, thanks. I guess any chests I missed are still within reach, since the Auction House is closed. My problem now is, does it even matter if I find every chest? I normally don't play just for achievements, but since I've nearly got the whole lot, I thought I'd go for it. If it's true that I need to examine every pot, etc. then I'm not going to bother because it might be impossible at this point anyway :\Blimblim said:
I´m glad the game sold pretty well.
Mortals gain skills automatically leveling up and can use all of them.
Inmortals learn skills from the mortals linking them while winning battles (you dont need to use the skills to learn them, just keep them linked). They have finite amount of skill slots available that can be upgraded with slot seeds.
Other thing, you dont get GC back just by healing the front row characters. You must use some of the skills to replenish it.
Both can use rings and equipment but rings are almost useless for back row/casters as they only work for melee attacks.
Regarding position, for the begininng is pretty easy.
- Front: Kaim and Seth
- Back Jansen and later on the rest
And the most obvious stuff was just in case because we have already read some people in the thread that didnt know about it untill reaching half of the game or so.
XenonOxide said:
Mortals gain skills automatically leveling up and can use all of them.
Inmortals learn skills from the mortals linking them while winning battles (you dont need to use the skills to learn them, just keep them linked). They have finite amount of skill slots available that can be upgraded with slot seeds.
Other thing, you dont get GC back just by healing the front row characters. You must use some of the skills to replenish it.
Both can use rings and equipment but rings are almost useless for back row/casters as they only work for melee attacks.
Regarding position, for the begininng is pretty easy.
- Front: Kaim and Seth
- Back Jansen and later on the rest
And the most obvious stuff was just in case because we have already read some people in the thread that didnt know about it untill reaching half of the game or so.
The_Dude said:
i´m still at the begining of 4th disc but i have enjoyed it so far too, some things more than others.
I would like to see a sequel/another instalment, not only specially because of some of the characters, the dreams, etc.., but I´m curious and hopefull after reading the gamasutra article/postmortem and the problems/constrains they had in the project that could be solved and improved for a next game.
dammitmattt
Banned
Ok, GAF, so I'm at the end game and I'm really, really annoyed by the last five achievements. I've done every single thing there is to do in the game aside from finding six seeds. However, you apparently need all 99 needs to complete both the Treasure Trove achievement AND the skill master achievements for the immortals, since one of the skills (Absorb Ground, I think) is obtained from the pipot after getting all 99 seeds. So now I'm going to have to re-comb the entire fucking world to find these six seeds to fulfill my crazy, OCD brain. And the fucking auction doesn't fucking sell fucking seeds. Any tips, GAF, other than the obvious of using the Seed FAQ.
Some other random thoughts/advice:
- Aside from the main story being weaker than the average FF game (the dreams almost make up for it), this really is the true sequel to FFX. In almost every possible way. Which is a good thing for me because I LOVED FFX. I'm 71 hours in and still loving it.
- Don't do the Temple of Enlightenment if you want the end game to be challenging. I'm at level 80 and the enemies don't even hurt me. The only tough battles I've had since I finished the temple were two in the last set of Backyard Battles. Once you get Absorb All Elements and Ailment Defense, you're just about invincible.
- Don't do the Temple of Enlightenment without Split Infinity's YouTube videos. It's just way too confusing and frustrating without them. On another note, this section had the most enjoying battles of the game, and will instantly get you from level 50 to level 70.
- This game desparately needs a "no encounters" item since so many of the side quests have you revisiting the relatively small number of locations again. And again. And again. And oftentimes, you have to run all the way through the dungeon for one item/task.
- Even when I have 30 skill slots for each character and the game is no longer challenging, I STILL agonize over what skills to equip everyone with. Am I the only one?
- Am I the only one with a good 15-25 level gap between my immortals and mortals? There's just no reason to use your mortals towards the end other than to fill out your party and leech skills. Sed is probably your best bet since his attacks can hang in with Kaim and Seth, and Jansen is okay since he can Double-Cast, but without being able to make them immune to everything, they're just going to die if they get hit a couple of times.
- Why does the game give you some truly badass spells (last Composite spell, especially), but no real reason/opportunity to use them. And furthermore, what good is a spell that takes 4 turns to charge up?!? It's just weird that the Level 8 (Level 4 Composite) spells are mostly useless across the board.
Some other random thoughts/advice:
- Aside from the main story being weaker than the average FF game (the dreams almost make up for it), this really is the true sequel to FFX. In almost every possible way. Which is a good thing for me because I LOVED FFX. I'm 71 hours in and still loving it.
- Don't do the Temple of Enlightenment if you want the end game to be challenging. I'm at level 80 and the enemies don't even hurt me. The only tough battles I've had since I finished the temple were two in the last set of Backyard Battles. Once you get Absorb All Elements and Ailment Defense, you're just about invincible.
- Don't do the Temple of Enlightenment without Split Infinity's YouTube videos. It's just way too confusing and frustrating without them. On another note, this section had the most enjoying battles of the game, and will instantly get you from level 50 to level 70.
- This game desparately needs a "no encounters" item since so many of the side quests have you revisiting the relatively small number of locations again. And again. And again. And oftentimes, you have to run all the way through the dungeon for one item/task.
- Even when I have 30 skill slots for each character and the game is no longer challenging, I STILL agonize over what skills to equip everyone with. Am I the only one?
- Am I the only one with a good 15-25 level gap between my immortals and mortals? There's just no reason to use your mortals towards the end other than to fill out your party and leech skills. Sed is probably your best bet since his attacks can hang in with Kaim and Seth, and Jansen is okay since he can Double-Cast, but without being able to make them immune to everything, they're just going to die if they get hit a couple of times.
- Why does the game give you some truly badass spells (last Composite spell, especially), but no real reason/opportunity to use them. And furthermore, what good is a spell that takes 4 turns to charge up?!? It's just weird that the Level 8 (Level 4 Composite) spells are mostly useless across the board.
dammitmattt
Banned
Thrakier said:
You have to go outside, loop back around to the top right, then slide down a hill and backtrack back inside the dungeon. I assume you are referring to the chest that's inside and fairly high up?
Blimblim said:Well, you could equip some charge speed-up skills first, and cast them in 2 turns. Just saying
But it's annoying to do that now that no enemies (outside of the Temple) take more than two turns to kill!
Princess Skittles
Prince's's 'Skittle's
Ugh, no.dammitmattt said:
That'd make the Treasure Trove achievement palatable. Well that or an equivalent to Dragon Quest's Treasure Sniff ability.dammitmattt said:
Princess Skittles
Prince's's 'Skittle's
Lost Odyssey was OVERALL better but I loved Blue Dragon too. Blue Dragon had an awesome class system but it was really way too easy. Also, Blue Dragon should have been cel-shaded with Toriyama's art. You can't go back to that bland look after seeing Dragon Quest VIII, it doesn't work with his art style. I think there was also too much time spent in cities in Blue Dragon (especially since every single rock had a hidden item, ugh).Diablos said:
I was worried about Lost Odyssey hearing it was much more story based with no grinding, but the cut scenes never grew tiresome and the level caps were offset by the skill system, so you still were rewarded for fighting battles and it led to a great level of character customization.
One thing is for sure, the Mistwalker Nobuo Uematsu is a GOD. Times a zillion.
Freeza Under The Shower
Member
Speaking of Uematsu: have other people noticed that the final boss music appears to use the same guitar sequence as the FFVII boss theme - as played by Kurikinton Fox- ?
Spirit of Jazz
Banned
Sweet baby Jesus why are the only 2 spells that I missed the only ones things in the game you can't get on disk 4?
neonvision
Member
Spirit of Jazz said:Sweet baby Jesus why are the only 2 spells that I missed the only ones things in the game you can't get on disk 4?
Which 2 are those? Currently at disc 3 so if I can avoid missing a couple spells that are unobtainable in the final disc, that would be super!
Ugghhhh. Yeah. I findSallokin said:
Gongora's final from to basically be impossible at my level.
Also, wtf were they thinking when they planned the final battle?
I chose not to use Sarah, making my primary characters Kaim, Seth, Sed, Jansen and Ming. But you need Sarah for the final battle, and she's only at like level 32 right now. What the hell? Also, I love how you can't use Jansen or ANY of the mortals in the final battle. Brilliant. I wish I would have known this so I could have used Sarah more.
Terribly poor planning. Yet another reason why BD > LO. This is so dumb. Now I have to go power level until my eyes bleed. Thanks, Mistwalker!
edit: I can't keep playing this game -_-
dammitmattt
Banned
Diablos said:
Dude...you don't need to "power level" at all. Just go through the Temple of Enlightenment and you'll be level 70 or so in a few hours. I finished at level 84 and the only "grinding" I did was at the very end when I was learning the last few skills I picked up.
CowboyAstronaut
Banned
Diablos said:
I would dare put LO in the bad planning category, even if one comes to the conclusion that nothing is perfect.
edit meant I WOULDN'T
Spirit of Jazz
Banned
neonvision said:Which 2 are those? Currently at disc 3 so if I can avoid missing a couple spells that are unobtainable in the final disc, that would be super!
Shielda and Barica, you need to get them in Gohtza.
Spirit of Jazz
Banned
Diablos said:
Because with the systems in place it makes sense that everybody should have them in their party.
Diablos, it was poor planning on your part. The immortals are about 15 times better than any of the mortals, even with lower levels. If there was just one more immortal so I could have 5 of them instead of any of the mortals that would be better.
Also there are huge parts of disc three where you have to use all the characters, as well as parts of disc 4.
Also there are huge parts of disc three where you have to use all the characters, as well as parts of disc 4.
Please. There are nine characters to choose from, only five primarily can be in your party with the exception of those "huge" (not really) parts during Disc 3 and whatnot. I figured I'd go with a decent balance of mortals/immortals since there's enough to choose from on both sides.QVT said:
It's dumb that the final battle forces you to use all four immortals. I used Jansen all the time, but I can't use him because omg he has to hold back the light. Ridiculous. And then there's Sarah, who I haven't used since like Disc 2, with 770HP, who I now have to get up to somewhere around level 60.
I still like this game, but it has some flaws. Blue Dragon was better.
gregor7777
Banned
Spirit of Jazz said:
Where in Gohtza?
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
Diablos said:
Huh. All I've heard is the opposite. I am currently playing through BD (more than halfway through Disc 1 currently) and am very much enjoying it. I planned to get LO when I was done. What does BD do better? I really enjoy the brisk pace of BD's story more than anything. It combines the laid-back vibe I crave in my JRPG's with a sense of always moving things along without having to linger in any one particular area to the point of boredom or stagnancy.