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Official Olympic 2010 Hockey Thread of dreams and failures
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ForzaItalia
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I agree and I have a feeling he will lose it.Socreges said:
Anyone who wonders why Mike Green isnt on the roster simply has to look at Doughty's stats. 43 points and a lot better then Green Defensively. 3 of the top 5 scoring dmen are on the team canada. 5 of the Canadian D are in the Top 10 for points on D. Hell Kieth is only 5 points back of Green.
Plus, at least part of the reason why Green excels is that he plays on such an offensive juggernaut and also on its PP. Removed from that context, he might be just as good offensively as many of the guys that made the team, not to mention being an alleged liability in his own zone.Spl1nter said:
megashock5
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Great OP!
This is going to be so fun to watch. I'm from the USA, but my kids are from Russia (my 9-year-old son plays hockey) and we're Jackets fans so we'll be cheering Nash on team Canada.
Let's do this!!!
This is going to be so fun to watch. I'm from the USA, but my kids are from Russia (my 9-year-old son plays hockey) and we're Jackets fans so we'll be cheering Nash on team Canada.
Let's do this!!!
Jazzy Network
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Holy crap Quick is leading the league in wins.
Jagr criticizing Forsberg for playing olympics, lol
http://www.svd.se/sportspel/nyheter/jagr-sagar-foppas-medverkan_4266183.svd
http://www.svd.se/sportspel/nyheter/jagr-sagar-foppas-medverkan_4266183.svd
I'd just like to tell all of my good American friends here that I'll be at the USA vs. Switzerland game on Tuesday. You'll be able to pick me out very easily. I'll be the guy cheering hardest for the Swiss. 
We can only pray that he's not in game-shape. Franzen is an incredible player when he's hot. So effective and clutch.darkwings said:praise the lord, Johan Franzen has been added to the swedish team!
It will be interesting if any team can stop Russias top two lines.
Ovechkin - Malkin - Semin
Kovalchuk - Datszuk - Radulov
That is just insane.
Hopefully this iteration of Canada has much better chemistry then 2006. At least this time they took players use to playing with each other with the Sharks line, Keith-Seabrooke, Perry-Getzlaf.
Ovechkin - Malkin - Semin
Kovalchuk - Datszuk - Radulov
That is just insane.
Hopefully this iteration of Canada has much better chemistry then 2006. At least this time they took players use to playing with each other with the Sharks line, Keith-Seabrooke, Perry-Getzlaf.
Niedermayer - Pronger, too. People forget about that one.R_GILL said:
As for the forwards, you could similarly ask if any team could stop our four lines. We'll be consistently rolling great talent and guys responsible at both ends of the ice. Agreed, though, that there's something about the Ovechkin-Malkin-Semin line that makes me shit my pants at the thought.
While injecting steroids in between shifts.darkwings said:
Socreges said:
In a 7 game series, Canada with its ridiculous depth would be the easy favorite. But in a 1 game knock out tournament nothing scares me more then Russia's top two lines. No lead is safe when they can just keep throwing those two lines out there.
Nieds and Pronger really look old this year, I think in the end Keith and Seabrook will have to do most of the heavy lifting.
You probably don't understand the format. Look at it a bit differently.darkwings said:
In 2006, there were two groups. Two teams from each were eliminated and the rest went straight to the quarters. So, four teams didn't make it. For these Olympics, the NHL requested that there be fewer games. The solution was to divide the teams into three groups and have fewer preliminary games. But now you've got a problem in determining which 8 teams make it to the quarters. So they added a playoff round that has D5-D12 face off while the top teams get a bye. Success in group play is thus a huge incentive since you are guaranteed to go straight to the quarters and get one more day off.
The only problem I have with this format is that there's now less hockey. But at least that means each game is more meaningful. Suffering two losses, for example, is deadly. In 2006 it meant Canada had to face a very good team right away (Russia). Now it would mean they'd have to play an extra game than the top four teams and face one of them in the quarters.
So I don't follow ice hockey at all, and I thought it would be an interesting exercise to see how many names from each team I recognized. Keep in mind I'm in the US and don't watch the sport at all, so basically this means I only know the names from ESPN Sportscenter, which I can only assume roughly correlates to skill... it probably also heavily favors goal scorers and goalies.
So that's
Canada 10
Russia 7
Sweden 5
Finland 4
Czech 3
Slovakia 1
USA 0
Based on this completely ignorant and unscientific analysis, I predict Canada will beat Russia in the finals.
So that's
Canada 10
Russia 7
Sweden 5
Finland 4
Czech 3
Slovakia 1
USA 0
Based on this completely ignorant and unscientific analysis, I predict Canada will beat Russia in the finals.
Eaten By A Grue
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USA doesn't have enough people named Ryan either in first or last name on the team.
U-S-A A-OK!
U-S-A A-OK!
Afro Thunder
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Canada not winning the gold medal is like Brazil not winning 2014 World Cup in Brazil. Man, so much pressure...
Cold-Steel
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I gotta say, Patrice Bergeron is the only WTF pick on Team Canada's roster that really stands out to me. I could think of at least five forwards I'd take over him - despite his chemistry with Crosby in the past.
For those of you saying Morrow doesn't belong there - you guys CLEARLY didn't watch the Western Conference Finals (Stars VS Wings) in 2008 where Morrow literally destroyed any player that moved along the boards.
Morrow's there to bang and crash better than any other player on that roster. He's great for energy, character and is a really gritty go-to guy.
For those of you saying Morrow doesn't belong there - you guys CLEARLY didn't watch the Western Conference Finals (Stars VS Wings) in 2008 where Morrow literally destroyed any player that moved along the boards.
Morrow's there to bang and crash better than any other player on that roster. He's great for energy, character and is a really gritty go-to guy.
PuppetSlave
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darkwings said:
Oh thanks. Rip up old wounds why don't you. I had managed to forget that stain on Swedish hockey pride
Belarus deserved the win. Bastards.
ForzaItalia
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Wow...I don't know what to make of the way Semin is looking at Fedorov:
Buba Big Guns
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Canada should be incredibly confident. They have a great team.
Bergeron is a great pick actually. Hes been Boston's best player this season and he's very reliable. Really cant go wrong. I think Canada shouldve chose Fisher over Morrow. Similar players, except Fish has been on a mission this season. He's extremely clutch too.
Cold-Steel said:
Bergeron is a great pick actually. Hes been Boston's best player this season and he's very reliable. Really cant go wrong. I think Canada shouldve chose Fisher over Morrow. Similar players, except Fish has been on a mission this season. He's extremely clutch too.
I gotta say that I honestly don't believe Canada will win gold, no matter how much I want them to. I just don't see it. The team is overall lackluster, aside from some of the sure-in superstars. The defence looks like a slow piece of a crap. The offense has some hot and cold guys, some of which don't look too confident going into the Olympics. I mean I just don't see it happening this time. They didn't pick up some key offensive and defensive players that would've went better than what there is now.
I feel that Canada is easily going to be outskated defensively. While the offensive talent could've been a bit stronger, with some other key picks.
Look at these lines:
Nash-Crosby-Bergeron
Staal-Getzlaf-Perry
Marleau-Thornton-Heatley
Morrow-Toews-Iginla
Tell me you don't see the stupidity in this? The first line? Bergeron is not a 1st liner, especially in the Olympics.
Don't get me started on the D:
Boyle-Pronger
Keith-Seabrook
Weber-Niedermayer
Seriously? The defensemen not only aren't even of high caliber, as some of the players they could've picked, but they are older and slower. We aren't trying to intimidate the other players we are trying to shut them down and get highly talented offense D-men with fast and agile players that can do both. With these picks I don't see it.
Maybe in 4 years Canada, maybe in 4 years.
I feel that Canada is easily going to be outskated defensively. While the offensive talent could've been a bit stronger, with some other key picks.
Look at these lines:
Nash-Crosby-Bergeron
Staal-Getzlaf-Perry
Marleau-Thornton-Heatley
Morrow-Toews-Iginla
Tell me you don't see the stupidity in this? The first line? Bergeron is not a 1st liner, especially in the Olympics.
Don't get me started on the D:
Boyle-Pronger
Keith-Seabrook
Weber-Niedermayer
Seriously? The defensemen not only aren't even of high caliber, as some of the players they could've picked, but they are older and slower. We aren't trying to intimidate the other players we are trying to shut them down and get highly talented offense D-men with fast and agile players that can do both. With these picks I don't see it.
Maybe in 4 years Canada, maybe in 4 years.
Buba Big Guns
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Smash88 said:
So much wrong in this post I dont even know where to start. You dont understand how key guys like Niedermeyer are. Best defence in the tourny.
Buba Big Guns
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Umm hes playing great, as usual. What the hell are you on about old? Weber = 24, Seabrook = 24, Keith = 26, and Doughty whos having an amazing year is fucking 20. This IS the best defence Canada could possibly have. Slow my ass.
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