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Official Thread of Toronto on Strike, or Something is Rotten in Ontario
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More good news; taxpayers will be supplying the pay for the security guards at the temporary dump sites in City parks that everyone is complaining about. And..
Wahaha. So.. people are only allowed to dump between 7am and 7pm because the picketers don't want to picket for longer hours? Give me a break. :lol
Wahaha. So.. people are only allowed to dump between 7am and 7pm because the picketers don't want to picket for longer hours? Give me a break. :lol
DevelopmentArrested said:
:lol wow. Oh ya, what a shithole! I can't even go outside without being shot 80 times and look at all the boarded up buildings!
You are such an alarmist.
Yes, the garbage strike is bad but can you honestly walk outside and tell me the city is in complete disrepair and a "shithole"? Have you been to any actual shithole cities where things are truly very wrong? Like Detroit for example. I like Detroit but that is a city that needs help.. not Toronto.
My girlfriend is American and her parents just visited here a couple weeks ago and said to me "I have never seen a city this clean". Now granted if they came during this garbage strike I'm sure they wouldn't have said that but this garbage strike is temporary and then things will go back to normal.
If you think Toronto is such a shithole then why don't you just move to Oakville? I hear they have a Walmart, a Best Buy and 10 thousand parking lots there.
Streetcars are a done deal:EvilMario said:
http://www.thespec.com/News/Business/article/589901
And honestly Miller is setting up Baird up to come in like a knight in shining armour with stimulus funding for the 'delayed' capital projects as they are 'shovel ready' and will provide jobs 'right away', instead of being delayed. If the feds take the win-win bait then Miller will put ads on the TTC thanking the province *and* the feds profusely as he's been doing for the province recently.
lunarworks
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We have a Future Shop, too! (I hate this town.)jibblypop said:
I don't think the Tories will honestly be able to pull-off a White Knight play. Their hatred of Liberal Toronto is so great that you'll be able to see the scowl through the armour.Azih said:
As for those "shovel ready" jobs? It's bullshit. The money will go to connected, scumbag contractors who will embezzle and put 8 people standing around on a road while one person digs, and then the jobs will evaporate again as soon as the work is done. At least with Bombardier there will be actual jobs for 10 years.
DevelopmentArrested
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Did I say unsafe? No. Obviously, even with the increase in gun related crimes the last few years, Toronto is as safe as any other city in North America. Shithole /=\ crime-ridden. Don't put words in my mouth.jibblypop said:
Congratulations on using the ultimate epitome of filth in America to validate your point. I might as well use Austin, Texas as my comparison to Toronto. For your information, I've been to 49 of 50 United States. I'd rank Toronto near the middle to bottom of that list. It's dirty. Come to Queen/Dundas and Bathurst anytime in the last few years. It's fucking disgusting. Sure, there are nice areas. Yorkdale, Rosedale, I'm sure where Miller lives is beautiful. But this city has significantly deteriorated in the last 5 years. There was litter all over the city before this strike. Toronto needs a Rudy Giuliani to come and clean up the streets.
Oakville is far far worse. Thanks though. That's a sad excuse by the way. 'Well you think it's shit here so move!'. Grow up.
Buba Big Guns
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All I have to say is that Toronto is a great place with hot chicks and many things to do. Hopefully this strike ends soon. I hate retarded unions.
Ottawa is a good place to live but there is literally shit all to do, the city is too spread out and has absolutely shit transportation. John Baird is a giant douche.TheExodu5 said:I like it in Ottawa.
DevelopmentArrested
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I hear this spouted some times and I don't get it. I mean, maybe it's just the fact that I've lived here for 20 years and granted a lot of other Canadian cities are far more dull.. but is there really? I look at some of the great European or Asian cities (london, barca, rome, istanbul, tokyo,etc) or even some US ones.. I mean we have one museum and one great attraction here for christsake. /off-topic rantBuba Big Guns said:
DevelopmentArrested said:
Is that supposed to impress me that you've been to 49 States? I have too (well actually 41 states but still..) and I rank Toronto near the very top. Plus I have been to almost every country in Europe and most of Asia and I still rank Toronto quite high. I think you just have this self loathing problem.
I remember you with your very questionable comments in the Tamil protest thread so I'm not surprised with your opinions here.
DevelopmentArrested
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I've been to 80+ countries. I guess my e-peen is bigger now again right? How does seeing the deterioration of Toronto make me a self-loather? :lol I'm glad you think Toronto is near the top of the places you've seen. I think it's near the middle-bottom. We'll have to agree to disagree.jibblypop said:
Yes. Being against babies in strollers on highways is questionable. :lol I eagerly await your next step in futility when you quote my off-topic post history to try to discount my credibility.
lunarworks
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Firstly, you're exaggerating by saying that area is "fucking disgusting". Yes, Chinatown is covered in filth year-round, but that's Chinatown. The rest of that area is pretty damn clean compared to similar American neighbourhoods I've been too. Also, any litter problem is likely because the area has more pedestrian traffic than probably anywhere else in Canada. People speeding through suburbs in cars don't leave much garbage.DevelopmentArrested said:
Second, that neighbourhood is obviously representative of Toronto as a whole. (/sacrasm) Or, are you one of those people who rarely ventures outside a very tiny set of borders?
Buba Big Guns
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It just way easier to chill with friends at a lounge or restaurant etc.DevelopmentArrested said:
DevelopmentArrested
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Racist so..lunarworks said:
Huh? If anything, I gave one example of filth and three of cleanliness. Are you implying that Bathurst downtown is the only bad area? There are plenty good but plenty bad through-out the entire core.
DevelopmentArrested
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man i went to the science center a few years ago.. that place isn't as cool as when we were kids.Doytch said:
also I have to check out the AGO since it's been renovated.. have you been? I hear the restaurant is good too.. and the HHOF - well let's just say it hasn't been relevant for 40+ years.
DevelopmentArrested said:man i went to the science center a few years ago.. that place isn't as cool as when we were kids.
also I have to check out the AGO since it's been renovated.. have you been? I hear the restaurant is good too.. and the HHOF - well let's just say it hasn't been relevant for 40+ years.
Yeah I haven't been to the Science Centre since it was a field trip destination, so....
But the AGO is great. Really great atmosphere and interior design, and they usually have a pretty good feature going. I only started going when I took an art history elective last year, and people kept telling me I should come since it's awesome. Pretty decent bar across the street also...
Generalizing Toronto's neighborhoods by saying everything is as trashy as Queen and Bathurst, or sketchy Jarvis area is a bit harsh. It'd be like saying to someone visiting San Francisco that the entire City is just like Hunter's Point, or SOMA.
As for Chinatown, when you have an area with that much foot traffic every day, you get trash. Queen St itself through all the hipster districts have trash, but it's nothing compared to what is creeping up right now. People can't even handle their trash for five days; the union will surely crush us under our own stinky, disgusting weight of garbage.
As for Chinatown, when you have an area with that much foot traffic every day, you get trash. Queen St itself through all the hipster districts have trash, but it's nothing compared to what is creeping up right now. People can't even handle their trash for five days; the union will surely crush us under our own stinky, disgusting weight of garbage.
The Interrobanger
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Yay @ my landlord making garbage pickup arrangements for my building.
lunarworks
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Did I say "That's the Chinese?"DevelopmentArrested said:
No.
So, fuck you.
DevelopmentArrested
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Doytch said:
Village Idiot or something right?
Who pissed in your breakfast Corn Flakes? :lollunarworks said:
Speaking of AGO.. how about an AGO vs. ROM face off for the King of Ugly? I can't wait for this strike to go on for 2 months, well into and through tourist season. With the smell, and the trash everyone people will never want to visit Toronto again. Speaking of which, I saw a couple at an HMV saying they were HONEYMOONING in Toronto. Now, Toronto is a decent City.. when we're not being eaten alive by unions and our own government, but who seriously has their honeymoon here? :lol
And now for the fight:
vs.
And now for the fight:
vs.
DevelopmentArrested
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huhuhahahha that really is an exercise in human depravityEvilMario said:
jibblypop said:
Every time I take the streetcar past the building (I haven't been inside since the renovation, I'm sure it's lovely), I am just shocked that someone actually thought it looked great. But it looks like he wasn't alone. :lol
Of course, we can't all be OCAD.
EvilMario said:
I think most people like it. It's not for the people that only like old school 1930s and earlier architecture (which seems to be way too many people) of course but for more modern architecture fans, Gehry did a good job. Especially considering it's just a new addition and not a building designed from scratch.
The Elite
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EvilMario said:Every time I take the streetcar past the building (I haven't been inside since the renovation, I'm sure it's lovely), I am just shocked that someone actually thought it looked great. But it looks like he wasn't alone. :lol
Of course, we can't all be OCAD.
Holy shit!! Spider-Cow!!
I hate the look of that place and the new addition tot he ROM. Both ugly as fuck.
I have defended OCAD on this forums before... but that building is too much :lolEvilMario said:Every time I take the streetcar past the building (I haven't been inside since the renovation, I'm sure it's lovely), I am just shocked that someone actually thought it looked great. But it looks like he wasn't alone. :lol
Of course, we can't all be OCAD.
Having lived in both Toronto and Ottawa, I can say that Ottawa is more peaceful, clean, and green, while Toronto is a lot more fun.
The garbage strike has been pretty bad... but my area hasn't been to affected. I'm on the outskirts of a Toronto suburb that has remained relatively clean. It sucks that our pools are closed (in summer no less) and that I have to wait at the dump for hours to get rid of my garbage, but otherwise I haven't been too affected.
My car and my garage both smell like shit though.
edit: On OCAD....
...it looks GREAT from the outside, but on the inside it pretty much looks like a highschool.
The garbage strike has been pretty bad... but my area hasn't been to affected. I'm on the outskirts of a Toronto suburb that has remained relatively clean. It sucks that our pools are closed (in summer no less) and that I have to wait at the dump for hours to get rid of my garbage, but otherwise I haven't been too affected.
My car and my garage both smell like shit though.
edit: On OCAD....
...it looks GREAT from the outside, but on the inside it pretty much looks like a highschool.
Gallbaro said:
yeah it's still going on, it's day 27 or something like that.
What's more aggravating is the strike workers are picketing everything from drop-off stations to parking lots to ferry station, and our pansy mayor isn't doing shit about it. He is the sorriest sissy ever
It's not racist when it's one of the hallmark images of our Chinatown. The garbage we now see all over the streets is the norm for some stores in Chinatown.DevelopmentArrested said:
Interesting thing about this strike is the grassroots movements to clean up the city. I personally saw a truck going down Yonge street checking the auxiliary garbage bags hanging off the out-of-service bins.
Also, I don't really understand the unions. It's the same fucking story every year, whether it's CUPE or the TTC, every fucking time the contract expires, there's a threat of strike because they want raises and more benefits. More, more, more. There are loads of people who would gladly replace these workers if they abolished the unions. Just causes headaches for everyone.
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lunarworks
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OCAD's building is great. It really has a complimentary contrast with the neighbourhood.DoctorWho said:
Of course, I may be biased. I went to OCAD, during and shortly after the construction of that extension. (I never had classes in the "tabletop", though.)
But the strike, it needs to END. Our city is getting such a bad rep from it.
lunarworks
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In this case, yes. The union is an overprivileged child throwing a temper tantrum because it can't get what it wants.Big-E said:
EvilMario said:Every time I take the streetcar past the building (I haven't been inside since the renovation, I'm sure it's lovely), I am just shocked that someone actually thought it looked great. But it looks like he wasn't alone. :lol
Of course, we can't all be OCAD.
Shitty building for a shitty school. Perfect.
BigJonsson
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Ottawa is nice but has far too many teens dressed like 1970s punks that loiter outside the rideau centre 24/7
And the AGO and ROM look awesome
And the AGO and ROM look awesome
It's times like these you have to find some out-of-the-way place and dump your garbage (remove all identifying trash first), or go out of the city limits and burn it.
No shit it's not politically correct or legal, but I bet some people are going to start doing it if the strikes keep going. I give it a week.
No shit it's not politically correct or legal, but I bet some people are going to start doing it if the strikes keep going. I give it a week.
Big-E said:
Yes!
I remember the NYC Transit strike, those fuckers who already get paid too much to pick their nose in triple redundant positions shut down the city and held it hostage, to rob the populous of more money.
There is no way in the world these trash collectors were not making enough money for the skill/labor that job requires before hand. Unions in government rob the populous and defy universal suffrage.
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