Official Week 4 NFL Thread - Homecoming Week

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dskillzhtown said:
Why did the Browns hire Mangini? I give him 2 years, tops.

I think he'll be gone by the end of this year actually. They're just getting crushed right now and though it may not be all his fault, you always need someone to blame.
 
I <3 Memes said:
I really doubt he will be there 2 years. At this rate i would be surprised if he makes it through this season. You can be a bad coach and make it through the season. But he is both a bad coach and apparently hated by everyone in the organization.

hiryu said:
Because Lerner is a fucking idiot and is obsessed with the Belichick tree.

Yup. You only need to be loved by one person. Cleveland fans need to stage a revolt and stop buying any tickets. An empty stadium would get his attention.
 
themadcowtipper said:
Looks like Lance Moore will be back this week, excellent.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssutTrUi8D0

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1-D_FTW said:
Yup. You only need to be loved by one person. Cleveland fans need to stage a revolt and stop buying any tickets. An empty stadium would get his attention.


From the way he was trying to be coy and cute about the starting QB during pre-season, the stupid fines, and how he is handling the team now, I don't get how anyone could be happy with him.

Not saying any coach could come in and make the Browns a super bowl contender in one year, but he definitely isn't making the situation better.
 
1-D_FTW said:
Yup. You only need to be loved by one person. Cleveland fans need to stage a revolt and stop buying any tickets. An empty stadium would get his attention.

Once again it'll start to show real soon. Seriously look at their schedule, their next real shot at winning is against the lions, and I would pick Detroit in that scenario.
 
At the game on Sunday it didn't even look like the Browns players were talking to one another on the sidelines. They kind of just wondered around series after series. It was like they just didn't give a fuck.

I don't know if they've already thrown in the towel on Mangini or not, but its pretty clear they lack focus.
 
DET @ CHI
CIN @ CLE
OAK @ HOU
SEA @ IND
TEN @ JAC
NYG @ KC
BAL @ NE
TB @ WAS
BUF @ MIA
NYJ @ NO
DAL @ DEN
STL @ SF
SD @ PIT
CAR@BYE- That's right, we lose during the bye week. Somehow.

GB @ MIN
 
I need to pick up a D because Washington is not doing well for me. I have three choices:

Denver - Are they really that good or were their opponents that bad?

NO - Rookie Mark Sanchez is due to have a meltdown game

Bills - Playing against Chad Henne, but also the wildcat. Good STs.

What do you guys think? Leaning towards NO.
 
Wellington said:
I need to pick up a D because Washington is not doing well for me. I have three choices:

Denver - Are they really that good or were their opponents that bad?
They're alright. It all depends on which Dallas shows up. This is the biggest gamble, but also the biggest payoff.

NO - Rookie Mark Sanchez is due to have a meltdown game
He already kinda had it. ;)

NO is probably the safest bet. No, wait. Bills!


Which reminds me...
 
Wellington said:
I need to pick up a D because Washington is not doing well for me. I have three choices:

Denver - Are they really that good or were their opponents that bad?

NO - Rookie Mark Sanchez is due to have a meltdown game

Bills - Playing against Chad Henne, but also the wildcat. Good STs.

What do you guys think? Leaning towards NO.

Take a chance with Denver! why not. Been a gold mine for fantasy points so far.
 
Hmmm I'm dropping Issac Bruce from my back up and was going to pick up either Kevin Walter (Houston wr) or Lance Moore. Which one you guys think would do well?

Second I still have Beanie Wells on my roster. Should I just cut him and pick up Glen Coffee (or maybe just get both Walter and Moore)? I was hoping the Cards would give him more time but they love to throw and just can't stop.

For Wellington, go with Denver. NO only looks good because of how their opponents have to throw to catch up which leads to mistakes.
 
fuckin :lol @ the Clowns. At least give Quinn half the season to prosper/fail so you see what he has.
 
Oh, man. The bad thing about all the Mangini hate is that it makes Favre look better for shitting the bed in NY last year.
 
Fuck yeah GAF we did it! This is for my Panther bros:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/09/29/flozell-adams-is-still-tripping/

Cowboys tackle Flozell Adams has been tripping opponents in the NFL for a long time, and a measly $12,500 fine for leg whipping Justin Tuck in Week Two isn't going to stop him from continuing the practice.

We even have visual evidence.

An enterprising Giants fan posted a clip of Adams tripping Panthers defensive end Julius Peppers Monday night in the exact same manor he did to Tuck. (Thanks to Mike Garafolo for passing the link along.)

It's unclear if the league office is looking at the same play, and whether it could fine Adams for the third time in as many weeks.

Despite the leg whips and the penalties, Adams is reportedly playing much better this season than a year ago, when he was beset by injuries. He hasn't given up a sack and he's helped the Dallas running game dominate, averaging over 10 yards per carry when they run left, according to ESPNDallas.com.

And Adams apparently is not worried about the NFL's fines enough to stop the practice of leg whipping.

Either that, or the muscle memory built up over a 12-year career is just too much to overcome.

Florio linked to a topic on the Giants board, BBI, in which I posted the Flozell Adams gif from Monday Night.

Then today:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/09/30/flozell-fined-again/

On Tuesday evening, we showed you how old habits die hard when it comes to Cowboys tackle Flozell Adams and his propensity for tripping opponents.

The NFL was looking at the same footage of Adams kicking Julius Peppers, and decided to fine Flozell $7,500 for the offense, according to Todd Archer of the Dallas Morning News. That's $5,000 less than Adams was fined last week for leg whipping Justin Tuck, and $2,500 more than Adams was fined in Week One for an unnecessary roughness penalty.

(If only the league kept track of records like most consecutive weeks with a fine. Adams could be football's Joe Dimaggio.)

Cowboys running back Felix Jones was also fined $5,000 for an attempted leg whip against Carolina. Jones is fully expected to miss this week's game against Denver, but was coy when asked about his status Wednesday, saying "we'll see."

High fives all around!
 
TheClimaxan said:
CAR@BYE- That's right, we lose during the bye week. Somehow.

It'll be a tight game between Carolina and the bye then Delhomme will have a chance to win the game but will throw the ball to the bye for the game clinching touchdown.
 
Gregg Easterbrook said:
"Monday Night Football" Analysis: With Jake Delhomme throwing so many interceptions, why are the Panthers passing so much? In 2008, Carolina was third in the NFL in rushing yards, and among the few teams that rushed more often than it threw. This formula got the Cats to 12-4 and a first-round bye in the postseason. Since the 2008 playoffs began, Carolina's coaches have called 117 passes (attempts plus sacks and scrambles) versus 71 rushes, Delhomme has heave-hoed a dozen interceptions and Carolina is 0-4 during that stretch. Monday night, Carolina's coaches called 38 passes and 14 rushes, though the game was tight and Carolina was not in a hurry-up situation until the closing minutes; a Delhomme interception returned for a late touchdown was the coup de grâce. Carolina's fourth- quarter possessions when the score was 13-7 went like this: rush minus-1, pass plus-5, pass incomplete, punt; rush plus-12, pass incomplete, interception returned for touchdown. If you're a running-personality team, run the ball! We can't all be Peyton Manning.

How come everyone understand this idea except for John Fox? How is that man still employed? I was saying this during the Cards/Panthers game last year. It's so embarrassing.
 
Wellington said:
Fuck yeah GAF we did it! This is for my Panther bros:
Florio linked to a topic on the Giants board, BBI, in which I posted the Flozell Adams gif from Monday Night.

High fives all around!

That's awesome.

exarkun said:
Hmmm I'm dropping Issac Bruce from my back up and was going to pick up either Kevin Walter (Houston wr) or Lance Moore. Which one you guys think would do well?

Second I still have Beanie Wells on my roster. Should I just cut him and pick up Glen Coffee (or maybe just get both Walter and Moore)? I was hoping the Cards would give him more time but they love to throw and just can't stop.

I personally like Kevin Walter better. I've already got him on my team and am trying to find room for Lance, hoping he becomes the #2 again. Keep Beanie, but if you can try to find room for Coffee.
 
Gigglepoo said:
How come everyone understand this idea except for John Fox? How is that man still employed? I was saying this during the Cards/Panthers game last year. It's so embarrassing.
really, its funny. I hear coaches all the time say things like "we're a run first team" "you have to run the ball and stop the run to win in this league" "we're a running team that likes to throw"
And then they go out and pass the ball 40 times. At least the last statement is better than saying we're a run first team and then passing a bunch.
 
alr1ghtstart said:
fuckin :lol @ the Clowns. At least give Quinn half the season to prosper/fail so you see what he has.
I mean wtf man? Of all the bs I've endured as a Browns fan, this is freaking sick.

Now Quinn will ask to be traded, and he'll become a star somewhere else. FUCK.
 
Wellington said:
I need to pick up a D because Washington is not doing well for me. I have three choices:

Denver - Are they really that good or were their opponents that bad?

NO - Rookie Mark Sanchez is due to have a meltdown game

Bills - Playing against Chad Henne, but also the wildcat. Good STs.

What do you guys think? Leaning towards NO.

I too have Washington's Defense in one of my leagues, and I'm going to start them this week against the Buc.

They're facing a team that was shutout last week and is now turning the offense over to a second year scrambling QB who has zero starts.

I like the skins for a lease two turnovers and 3-5 sacks.


Although they are a little banged up on that side of the ball, The Bills also match up pretty well with Henne starting.
 
Rorschach said:
I'll let you guys know what Quinn has if you really want to know: nothing.


Next victim.

<----

See that terrified intense primal fear pulsing through Ben's body? Quinn knows he's getting a dose in a few days. I'll bet he's drinking instead of practicing.
 
Wellington said:
I need to pick up a D because Washington is not doing well for me. I have three choices:

Denver - Are they really that good or were their opponents that bad?

NO - Rookie Mark Sanchez is due to have a meltdown game

Bills - Playing against Chad Henne, but also the wildcat. Good STs.

What do you guys think? Leaning towards NO.

Not sure about the Bills. Both OT's are out now, so we are playing with shit on the OL, and our C is playing hurt (fucker probably won't finish the game just like last week). Doubt our O will do much, Trent will spend the game looking at the blitz or on his back.

Since Poz was hurt, we've been playing with three safeties because our backup Mike is tiny. Problem is two of our three safeties are hurt, one definitely not playing and the other is questionable. I expect Miami to pound the ball, and if our O can't keep drives going our D will be gassed by the third.
 
Great stat I found in the Post... Brandon Jacobs has had 58 rushes this year, 32 of them resulted in a 2-yards gain or less. Ugh, I know Giants faced Albert (restraining order) Haynesworth and an aggressive Dallas D but that's pretty bad.
 
I hate how much fucking Dallas is getting shoved down my throat!!!! Sunday night, then Monday night, then fucking 98% of the country for a 4PM game!!!!! St. Louis is closer to me that either Dallas or Denver ffs!!!

I hope they go 4-12 for the whole nation to laugh at.
 
Willie Parker might not play on Sunday but at this point I almost welcome Moore getting more touches because he has been our best option at running back going back to last year.
 
bionic77 said:
Willie Parker might not play on Sunday but at this point I almost welcome Moore getting more touches because he has been our best option at running back going back to last year.

I thought the Steelers said he has turf toe and would definitely start?
 
The Frankman said:
I'll take the Barry Sanders-like HR ability and the fact he actually has hands out of the backfield anyday. I couldn't believe they were lining him up at WR! :lol
yea well, I'm sure every running back would love to play the Texans D the way they are playing right now.
 
The Frankman said:
Great stat I found in the Post... Brandon Jacobs has had 58 rushes this year, 32 of them resulted in a 2-yards gain or less. Ugh, I know Giants faced Albert (restraining order) Haynesworth and an aggressive Dallas D but that's pretty bad.

Your vendetta against Brandon Jacobs continues to confuse me.
 
I actually kind of agree with you guys on the Dallas thing. I love watching them and I'm pumped that they're the 4 o clock game for the entire country, I just hate waiting till Sunday Night/Monday Night to watch them. I'll be happy if they're just on tv for me to enjoy at 1 or 4 pm.
 
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