Official Week 4 NFL Thread - Homecoming Week

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DHB >>>>>> Crabbles


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Undeniable statistical evidence. Look at all dem starts!
 
So much unbridled rage, FMT. If only the 49ers had exhibited such gusto on Sunday! Perhaps they would still have their pride, and not have to bear the shame of a defeat at the hands of a prehistoric QB.
 
Duke Togo said:
So much unbridled rage, FMT. If only the 49ers had exhibited such gusto on Sunday! Perhaps they would still have their pride, and not have to bear the shame of a defeat at the hands of a prehistoric QB.

i guess favre has gotten the best of both of us recently :(


p.s. i'll always have crabtree in madden..... no one can ever take that away from me (in online franchise that is!)
 
FrenchMovieTheme said:
i guess favre has gotten the best of both of us recently :(


p.s. i'll always have crabtree in madden..... no one can ever take that away from me (in online franchise that is!)
--------------------------------------Rec---Yards---AVG----YPG-----Long---TDs
Darrius Heyward-Bey -------------24-----500----20.83----50.00---69------7
Michael Crabtree-------------------28-----318----11.36----35.33---49------3

Still better!

Let's not talk about drop stats! DHB is nearing double digits. :[
 
doomsayer said:
How do you think the Bears stack up to Min/GB... I think the division is going to be decided by probably 1 win.

Tough to say...it is still early. Bears defense is playing very good right now...especially with urlacher out. As much as it pains me to say this, the Vikings are probably the team to beat in the North but who knows what will happen!

FrenchMovieTheme said:
i didn't have a problem with the jets until they tampered with crabtree and that fat sack of shit rex ryan said "i wish we were playing them this year!" why rex? so we can beat that ass again just like we did last year? see you in 3 you bitch, if you still have a job

This is what you bitches get for tampering with our Lance Briggs negotiations a few years back! Payback!
 
Rorschach said:
--------------------------------------Rec---Yards---AVG----YPG-----Long---TDs
Darrius Heyward-Bey -------------24-----500----20.83----50.00---69------7
Michael Crabtree-------------------28-----318----11.36----35.33---49------3

Still better!

Let's not talk about drop stats! DHB is nearing double digits. :[

i only care about catches! crabcakes doesn't drop anything!
 
Quick question for you guys on Crabtree-- if he sits out the year, will the niners get a compensatory pick sometime next year for essentially losing their 1st rounder this year? Or is that just a waste of a first round pick?
 
whytemyke said:
Quick question for you guys on Crabtree-- if he sits out the year, will the niners get a compensatory pick sometime next year for essentially losing their 1st rounder this year? Or is that just a waste of a first round pick?

It would be an absolute waste, no compensation. We could only get compensation if the Jets are found guilty.
 
whytemyke said:
Quick question for you guys on Crabtree-- if he sits out the year, will the niners get a compensatory pick sometime next year for essentially losing their 1st rounder this year? Or is that just a waste of a first round pick?

We're able to essentially sign and trade him after march 1st, but if he doesn't want to sign with us at all, even for a S&T, we get nothing. :(
 
Doomsayer said:
It would be an absolute waste, no compensation. We could only get compensation if the Jets are found guilty.
Ok. And the Niners are now not allowed to trade the rights to him until after the season, correct? And even then whoever they trade the rights to will lose them on draft day?

I'm almost positive I saw that they cannot trade his rights after the season starts, and they have until November 18th to sign a deal or he cannot play this year.
 
DET @ CHI
CIN @ CLE
OAK @ HOU
SEA @ IND
TEN @ JAC
NYG @ KC
BAL @ NE
TB @ WAS
BUF @ MIA
NYJ @ NO
DAL @ DEN
STL @ SF
SD @ PIT


GB @ MIN
 
Ninja Scooter said:
because nobody on the Raiders has ever picked one up? Hell does Jamarcus even read his playbook, let alone a text book?
Wasn't there complaints that he wasn't bothering to watch film last season as well?
 
Since Crabby was brought up, what has been happening recently? Is it looking more and more like he ain't gonna play this year?
 
the 49ers get nothing for crabtree if we don't sign him. we can trade him after march 1 to another team, but if he does not sign with that team either before the draft, then he goes back into the draft.

i would be shocked if he doesn't sign by november but i guess it is possible. just seems like a huge gamble even without taking his draft status of 2010 into consideration: what if he gets in a car accident? what if he just has a freak injury at home?

it just doesn't make sense to sit out to next years draft. going by the #'s, he would have to be selected #3 overall or higher to exceed the deal san fran is offering (taking into consideration the years worth of salary he has lost at that point).

i'm not too worried about it at this point. we have business to take care of on the field while crabcash and his possee of yes-men wait it out in his mansion
 
exarkun said:
Since Crabby was brought up, what has been happening recently? Is it looking more and more like he ain't gonna play this year?

right now nothing.

crabtree has moved away from the bay area (he had been staying there into september). he is currently in orlando "working out".

there has been no contact between the 49ers and his agent in 2 weeks. jed york has went on record and stated he would like to have a meeting with parker (agent) and crabtree but to date no response has been given (there's no way parker would let crabtree talk to him anyways because he might actually sign at that point).

there have also been rumors with unnamed sources (how convenient) that parker is touting there is another team out there offering a 4 year, $40 mil contract (similar to the fitz deal). whether this is the jets or cowboys or someone else is anyones guess. but there has clearly been tampering here. that is the only thing that makes sense at this point.
 
exarkun said:
Since Crabby was brought up, what has been happening recently? Is it looking more and more like he ain't gonna play this year?
This is the latest tidbit I could find:

All silent between Crabtree, Niners
Posted by Mike Florio on September 29, 2009 5:09 PM ET

The fact that 49ers receiver Michael Crabtree is unsigned with the month of September nearly over is newsworthy even without any specific developments.

And, so, allow us to report that there are no specific developments. More specifically, a league source tells us that two weeks have passed with zero communication between the team and agent Eugene Parker.

There's also a rumor in league circles that Parker is now telling people that there's a team willing to pay Crabtree $40 million over four years, which would match the contract Parker negotiated in early 2008 for Cardinals receiver Larry Fitzgerald.

So maybe the Niners will be filing a second tampering charge at some point.
 
XiaNaphryz said:
Wasn't there complaints that he wasn't bothering to watch film last season as well?
Meh. He can't even study normal playbooks. They've broken down plays so he only has to read half the field. Most of the time, he only has one read. They have discouraged dumpoffs because he did them all last season, so he doesn't even look at the underneath anymore. He does not know how to audible, so they give him dummy hand signs to at least try and fool the defense, but everyone knows they're dummy signs because A) no one shifts or even turns to watch him B) the plays are always runs and C) He's never audibled.

Last year when he played well, he was allowed to read the entire field. I think this oversimplification has completely stifled his progression.

That said, he a dummy!
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FrenchMovieTheme said:
right now nothing.

crabtree has moved away from the bay area (he had been staying there into september). he is currently in orlando "working out".

there has been no contact between the 49ers and his agent in 2 weeks. jed york has went on record and stated he would like to have a meeting with parker (agent) and crabtree but to date no response has been given (there's no way parker would let crabtree talk to him anyways because he might actually sign at that point).

there have also been rumors with unnamed sources (how convenient) that parker is touting there is another team out there offering a 4 year, $40 mil contract (similar to the fitz deal). whether this is the jets or cowboys or someone else is anyones guess. but there has clearly been tampering here. that is the only thing that makes sense at this point.

What a fucking cunt. I hate how ESPN calls Mike Leach and Harrell and they both say "Blah blah blah he loves to play and would love to be out there." I know this isn't mainly about money and its more about just getting what he feels like he should get but damn look at people like Harvin. He is out there proving his worth and showing his talent.

Fuck Crabtree, I've heard he was a diva before and I hope he ends up on the practice squad in Detroit for this stupid shit.
 
Such a disastrous move. Hopefully, Crabtree will destroy not only his career, but his agent's, as well. Parker is such a douchebag for this, he screwed not only the Niners but also Crabtree as well. The kid's losing millions.
 
Tamanon said:
Apparently the only thing keeping Crabtree afloat is his Subway endorsement money.:lol

Supposedly Crabtree made over $750,000 in endorsements... fucking unreal.

I think most 9er fans just want Crabtree to either sign, or make an official statement that he is not going to. I know thats what I want from him or his agent, how about showing some fucking integrity.
 
Case said:
Yea people are overreacting with the Jets. Who did they beat?
Huston sucks, always have. Pats have a gimped QB. Titans are 0-3. Big deal.

Ill believe it if they beat the Saints.

You know what, Im just happy that some people consider beating us makes a team legit. Its nice having a solid, well-rounded team, after two years of being so one dimensional.
 
Jonm1010 said:
You know what, Im just happy that some people consider beating us makes a team legit. Its nice having a solid, well-rounded team, after two years of being so one dimensional.

Just two years? How long you been a Saints Fan?
We've never had a rounded team, ever.

Maybe during the Haslett era we came close once, maybe.
But poor coaching undid the talent we had.
 
Junior Seau Run Over by Bull

Junior Seau is a future Pro Football Hall of Famer who, at age 40, is enjoying his first year of retirement. And while most retirees wouldn't find taking on a 2,000-pound bull relaxing, most retirees aren't Junior Seau.

Seau spent the weekend as a guest clown in a Professional Bull Riders event, and at one point a bull charged him, forcing Seau to hit the deck. The bull ran over him but didn't hurt him, and Seau got up laughing.

Seau has suggested that he might return to the NFL later this season if a team -- especially the New England Patriots or San Diego Chargers -- gives him a call. I don't know if Seau has much gas left in the tank, but if he can handle a 2,000-pound bull, a 300-pound offensive lineman won't look too intimidating.
 
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Fuck, the Monday Night Football story lines just got more obnoxious:

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Brett treated his wife normally and NOT JUST LIKE SOME SICK PERSON!
 
Rorschach said:
--------------------------------------Rec---Yards---AVG----YPG-----Long---TDs
Darrius Heyward-Bey -------------24-----500----20.83----50.00---69------7
Michael Crabtree-------------------28-----318----11.36----35.33---49------3
Hakeem Nicks----------------------28-----477----17.03----47.7----57------4

Let's not talk about drop stats! DHB is nearing double digits. :[
Dammit Rors still wins!
 
FrenchMovieTheme said:
and you shouldn't be THINKING about the 49ers at all. your team is a laughable 1-2 and have looked like dog shit. concentrate your concerns on the steelers, not the once-and-future superbowl champion niners!
That is no way to talk about the DEFENDING Superbowl Champions.

You of all people should know that no trophies are given out in September or October (though I bet Tony Romo wishes they were!).

Now lets all be friends and watch Big Ben make WWE relevant again when he hosts RAW.
 
actually, is there any hardware related to the player of the month awards?
 
Hmmmm, someone dropped Mcfadden. I think I will pick him up, although I'm 8th on the waiver.
Guess I'm going to cut...um.. backup jamal lewis
 
captive said:
dude you're not a fan gtfo here with that shit. Specifically starting players that will play against your team to win in fantasy?

It's fantasy football ffs :lol

How is everyone picking the Texans? Raiders can run the ball and the Texans can't stop the run to save their lives. I love my team, but this seems set up perfectly for the Raiders. Even Jamarcus can pass on this secondary for 3 bills.

I hope I am wrong, but from the first preseason game to now, the Texans defense has been terrible.

Russell is really, really bad and even though our defense stinks I don't think there's any way they can outscore us. They can run up and down the field but he's going to have to make plays occasionally. Plus, there's no way we start the year 0-3 at home.
 
Applesauce said:
It's fantasy football ffs :lol



Russell is really, really bad and even though our defense stinks I don't think there's any way they can outscore us. They can run up and down the field but he's going to have to make plays occasionally. Plus, there's no way we start the year 0-3 at home.

Man I sure as hell hope not. But I'm not going to be surprised if it happens.
 
DET @ CHI
CIN @ CLE
OAK @ HOU
SEA @ IND
TEN @ JAC - they're due
NYG @ KC - Giants go 4-0, ugh
BAL @ NE - Brady will be making strides this week
TB @ WAS
BUF @ MIA
NYJ @ NO - Total guess, I'm playing Brees this week in hope that he makes up for his dismal performance (fantasy wise) last week.
DAL @ DEN Denver's defense is surprising
STL @ SF
SD @ PIT - Steelers look weak, this could be the best time for SD to capitalize on that

GB @ MIN - YEAH FAVRE
 
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/09/30/anderson-will-start-for-the-browns-on-sunday/

Browns coach Eric Mangini has announced that quarterback Derek Anderson will start against the Bengals in Sunday's Week Four contest.

And so the Brady Quinn era ends after two games and change.

Until Anderson gets benched for Quinn.

This awkward dance will continue until one of them is traded or cut. And the guy who's playing will continue to peer over his shoulder every time he throws an ugly pass.
 
Dark FaZe said:
Oh shit Greenbay and minnesota so soon?

Must watch tv!

Minny @ Greenbay (Nov 1st - All Saints Day) will be even better. Can't wait to read the fan signs... and hear the boo's.
 
Mangini is a moron. He is making this move to save his job instead of letting the team take a few losses while Quinn acclimates himself to the game.

Back on the first page I posted that a QB has to be able to complete at least 60% of his passes or your teams passing game is going to be too inconsistent to win. Here is the stat page. Look at where Anderson is. The guy is last place in this stat and bellow J Russell. His career high in completion percentage is 56.5%

Quinn is at 60.8% for this season. The guy has been in the league for 3 years and has been given a grand total of 7 starts across 3 years. For some reason the coaches in Cleveland haven't given him a chance to grow into an NFL QB. They need to give him a season of starts to see what they have. In other words, you know Anderson sucks, now give Quinn a chance to prove he sucks too.
 
I really doubt he will be there 2 years. At this rate i would be surprised if he makes it through this season. You can be a bad coach and make it through the season. But he is both a bad coach and apparently hated by everyone in the organization.
 
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