KuwabaraTheMan
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I feel like we're definitely getting a Pudding/Lola focused flashback pretty soon.
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I feel like we're definitely getting a Pudding/Lola focused flashback pretty soon.
Tathanen
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Well, they can't make her TOO competent in her evil. How else will they make her Sanji's willing blushing bride?
Watch it be another twist where Lola was a jerk until pudding changed her and help her get free.
Same with Judge shitalking BM practically under her nose
I wonder if this is Oda's fault or his editor's, like, "Oda make it extra evident to everyone so kids don't get confused".
No matter who is to blame it doesn't make OP any favor.
UnemployedVillain
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What do you know, you guys, in your knee jerk reactions, were wrong about Pudding, AGAIN
Which had no effect on anything so it didn't really matter that he was
Which had no effect on anything so it didn't really matter that he was
What do you mean, I did think she would still be hostile at Sanji for the moment.
He is the leader of a fearsome mercenary army in the OP world that was about to create an alliance with a world leader, and he doesn't have a better idea that talk shit about her when surrounded by BM's homies? When it is know around the world that BM has good intelligence?
This makes the series feel less immersive.
Got to help the waifu.
OP redeemed a slave trader & a man who is complicit in causing a civil war, I think Pudding is a easy shot.
Who again
edit: oh right croc
No I'm referring to Bon Clay, though I can also make that Mister 3 a bit.
Slave Trader is Duval.
Was he really redeemed though? Like, he's not a good guy he's just got his mojo back.
Ahh, OK.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
I think the Judge crying scene was meant to show how the bros have "no emotions"
Even though they do. They all have clear personalities and get upset and happy and excited. I think what Oda is going for is that they're all sociopaths, which they definitely are, but this is Kingdom Hearts "nobodies don't have emotions" level of wrong terminology to use again.
Even though they do. They all have clear personalities and get upset and happy and excited. I think what Oda is going for is that they're all sociopaths, which they definitely are, but this is Kingdom Hearts "nobodies don't have emotions" level of wrong terminology to use again.
Or Death Parades
flintstryker
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You know I thought the Pudding love in on here was a big joke kinda like DTL can't believe you guys were actually serious
She's the queen.
I don't love Pudding but I think she has a lot of potentials with her dual personalities and also her ability, she can potentially be a huge character after this arc, I can see her 3rd eye awaken in this arc and the news spread through out the new world
she's the more interesting character compared to the stupid ass vinsmokes that's for sure
she's the more interesting character compared to the stupid ass vinsmokes that's for sure
KuwabaraTheMan
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Why would anyone not love Pudding?
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UnemployedVillain
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When Pudding was first introduced people complained about her being a typical damsel who was secretly good despite her bad upbringing. They ended up being wrong.
Then during the scene where Sanji said she was beautiful after seeing her 3rd eye, they thought fuck Oda, she really was secretly nice all along. They ended up being wrong again.
Wow you went there
AntraxSuicide
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Pudding had a ton of potential but it's mostly not paying off. Big Mom is really cool though; good first full introduction to a Yonko crew.
Judge crying like this doesn't really make sense; he's a pirate Nazi.
Judge crying like this doesn't really make sense; he's a pirate Nazi.
AntraxSuicide
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That's a great gif.
Don't mean his essays
Stop, Sanji had 2016. Don't torment him furtheris sanji the only one getting all beaten up so far? lmao
year of the sanji
Sibersk Esto
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On the bright side, at least Pudding isn't the only one crying and collapsing under the weight of their own impotence.
Quintin DM
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I'm just happy we're finally done with cover page requests and we're finally getting a new cover story.
Sibersk Esto
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Apparently the fact that Sanji took a punch from Daifuku's stand really grinds some folk's gears.
Basically this, though I love her since how her reveal effect this thread.
Racist!
Thankful I was right in the end!
Want her to be evil?
She could be on the boat till BM is dealt with again.
People who complain about battle feats are the worst.
AntraxSuicide
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I just want her to make sense. Don't go from sweet to evil genius to stammering moron to whiny do-nothing. I'm not invested one way or the other.
It's one of the big reasons this thread fucking annoys me lately.
YOU PUDDING STANS RUINED THE THREAD! RUINED IT!
Imperial Bishop
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What the hell? The chapter is out way earlier than I expected!
Throwing my entire game off right now lol.
So much stuff was happening in 864. So much that I had to read the chapter at least three times to pick through everything and I read both the MS and Jamini scanlations.
The most surprising thing in this chapter was Big Mom's supposed shock overload. I didn't expect the combined shock of the destroyed wedding cake, the Straw Hats, and the broken portrait to make her into an emotionally-stunned statue. The plan is already a big failure due to that alone. I don't expect Big Mom to shriek when Luffy shows her the shattered portrait. Something else is going to happen.
Something big enough to make Katakuri as white as a sheet.
Whatever this big incident is going to be, I think that it's going to draw all the focus away from the other members of the crew, which is why we got sections of the chapter devoted to Daifuku and Oven showing off their abilities.
Pudding hasn't switched sides, and I wholeheartedly don't expect her to. Sanji's comment about her deceiving herself was right on the money. I wouldn't be surprised if she can even alter her own memories. In fact, I can absolutely think that's the case.
Capone's line at the end of the chapter was badass, but Capone is, once again, jumping to conclusions that the future Katakuri sees is related to their plan.
And last, but not least, Brook ripping off the mask and everyone thinking he ripped off his own skin. LMAO. I love that.
Throwing my entire game off right now lol.
So much stuff was happening in 864. So much that I had to read the chapter at least three times to pick through everything and I read both the MS and Jamini scanlations.
The most surprising thing in this chapter was Big Mom's supposed shock overload. I didn't expect the combined shock of the destroyed wedding cake, the Straw Hats, and the broken portrait to make her into an emotionally-stunned statue. The plan is already a big failure due to that alone. I don't expect Big Mom to shriek when Luffy shows her the shattered portrait. Something else is going to happen.
Something big enough to make Katakuri as white as a sheet.
Whatever this big incident is going to be, I think that it's going to draw all the focus away from the other members of the crew, which is why we got sections of the chapter devoted to Daifuku and Oven showing off their abilities.
Pudding hasn't switched sides, and I wholeheartedly don't expect her to. Sanji's comment about her deceiving herself was right on the money. I wouldn't be surprised if she can even alter her own memories. In fact, I can absolutely think that's the case.
Capone's line at the end of the chapter was badass, but Capone is, once again, jumping to conclusions that the future Katakuri sees is related to their plan.
And last, but not least, Brook ripping off the mask and everyone thinking he ripped off his own skin. LMAO. I love that.
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Imperial Bishop
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Oh, yeah. I don't know how it slipped my mind. But Judge is a bitch.
It took me another re-read to notice that the candy chair has trapped the Vinsmokes to their seats.
Ichiji, Niji, and Yonji are "emotionless" in the face of death, but I have an inkling they're up to something.
It took me another re-read to notice that the candy chair has trapped the Vinsmokes to their seats.
Ichiji, Niji, and Yonji are "emotionless" in the face of death, but I have an inkling they're up to something.
Don't be one of those people, they clearly don't.
Why do or did anyone think the Vinsmokes have a plan.
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The vinamokes have nothing. Absolutely nothing in mind.
Pudding makes sense, she's not the same as Viola, she didn't fall for Sanji's words, Sanji was basically the first human being that doesn't hate her 3rd eye while everyone in her life treat her as a monster including her mom, we're dealing with another Chopper syndrome where he felt that everyone was treating him as a monster.
At least not instantly like Viola and Baby 5.
For me, it's that I like really like intelligent characters, and I feel like Oda promised me that this arc, and the way he's resolving hisc conflicts is disappointing.
One of the biggest attractions for me was that Big Mom's arc wasn't just powerful, but intelligent as well. Somehow, she was able to monitor the strawhats coming into the island even though they were trying to be sneaky. The way Big Mom was trying to build her power was by bringing in a whole bunch of different people with different strengths. Artificial humans from the Germa 66, Giantification from Ceasar, picking up talents from the Supernova group, the fishmen....And Pudding was just another aspect of that. An emotional manipulator, directing them into traps without them even knowing. This was all super cool because you feel that BM's crew isn't just dangerous because they have a lot of muscle but because you can't predict what they'll do at any given moment.
So it's disappointing that the way Oda makes them fail is by hitting everyone with the stupid stick. Pudding broadcasts her duplicitousness with a microphone to the strawhats, Big Mom's entire plan is a needless indulgence in extravagance, she lets her weakness for the Carmel picture slip, etc. And now, on top of all of this, it's revealed that Pudding can't keep her shit together over something as silly as what Sanji said? Even though she knows he's an idiot slave to women that would compliment her toe wart if she had one?
This is just not how I wanted to see these characters overcome. They aren't so much being beaten by the Strawhats so much as Oda. The same way Oda backtracked on his implied promise of a tournament arc with Dressrosa, I feel he's basically just throwing the premise away to rely on his old traditional tropes for resolving conflicts.
For that matter, why the fuck are the vinsmokes still alive? They had enough time to encase them in candy, but the plan was to instantly execute them. Why are they being kept alive?!
Imperial Bishop
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I didn't say they had a plan. Clearly, they were left in the dark,
But the brothers' comments make it seem like they might not have a reason to be really worried.
And they don't know anything about the candy-jacket bullets, so they might be thinking that the bullets won't do anything.
This whole "emotionless" narrative doesn't even fully make sense because we've seen them react all lovey-dovey to Nami, we've seen them express shock and surprise, and we've seen them laugh and smile.
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yeah, i wouldn't be surprised if she does, but not at the moment, she's currently an emotional wreck because of what Sanji said but that's because she was reminded of how hateful everyone was to her during her childhood, I'm actually surprised people are so focused on the whole Sanji thing lol, not to mention the flashbacks with Lola, I wouldn't be surprised if she has the same mindset as Lola except Lola was brave enough to leave to pursuit someone that could marry her, while Pudding was convinced to think that herself is ugly from her mom and the kids on cake island that bullied her, so she probably has no motivation to leave
It's inconsistent to serve the plot/gags, sort of like CoO.
Narrative convenient.
Imperial Bishop
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Lol, did you make this? XD
I feel like a broken record. When this arc ends and we've seen all it has had to offer to the important characters involved, it's best not to jump to conclusions.
I haven't listened to the One Piece Podcast in a while, but I think Stephen might have mentioned that the phrase used is different than the vague "emotionless" that MS uses.
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