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Overwatch marks a new low in Unlocking and Microtransaction systems that I'm aware of
- Thread starter Saty
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New maps and characters are gonna be free however.
Ooor...you could just play the game to unlock them. There's a lot to be unlocked, and despite what you say, it's all cosmetic / doesn't actually matter. The microtransactions are an alternative way for those who actually feel like burning more money to do so.
You don't want to spend money on these loot slot machines? Don't. Simple as that.
I see this as a perfectly fine way to fund future development efforts in the game. They'll keep churning out characters and maps for free, and new unlockables as incentive to purchase or continue leveling.
Exactly this. Are people somehow ignoring that you still can get many an unlockable just by playing?
You don't want to spend money on these loot slot machines? Don't. Simple as that.
I see this as a perfectly fine way to fund future development efforts in the game. They'll keep churning out characters and maps for free, and new unlockables as incentive to purchase or continue leveling.
Exactly this. Are people somehow ignoring that you still can get many an unlockable just by playing?
Bear Force One
Banned
Absolutely ZERO wrong with this visual unlock system.
No the Op has no clue about the game. The speech lines are just different taunt lines you can equip. All the other speech is just there.
It's a single one liner for the character to say randomly during a match as a taunt or similar. The characters have a lot of speech lines that are actually relevant to gameplay.
CountAntonius
Member
My friend spent 40 on loot cases and got enough credits from those alone to buy damn near every victory pose in the game. They are very cheap.
Maps and characters are going to be free. And you can unlock voices and skins and in fact absolutely everything just by playing. You never HAVE to pay.
Hamster Plugin
Member
Can't wait for this game to do what COD Black Ops 3 did and add guns to the microtransaction loot boxes. Blizzard is part of Activision after all. Then you know true bullshit.
NeoGold123
Member
Dude. What? I mean, wow. Das a lotta dough.
BO3 has winning taunts which you get from mystery boxes so in a way it has
Bear Force One
Banned
Worry over nothing.
RipperGrim
Member
Yea it's this kind of attitude that makes it worse and worse. Companies really do a good job in making people accept micro transactions even though the game isn't F2P.
I can't wait for all games to have the same random loot crate system that CoD has in black ops 3, it's so fun when it's not even guaranteed you can get anything.
SlickShoes
Member
Imagine if you could earn this stuff without spending money on microtransactions, that would be a revelation!
If you actually did spent over 2000$ in lootboxes, you have enough credits to buy all the victory poses for all character several times over
Well, a few other games have paid voice pack dlc, plus the same TF2 has stuff like taunts, which can be considered part of characterisation. That's not a new low imo.
I don't like it, not because it's locked behind unlocks/microtransactions, but because opening loot box and finding a voice line is just super unsatisfying.
I don't like it, not because it's locked behind unlocks/microtransactions, but because opening loot box and finding a voice line is just super unsatisfying.
There can never be guns because the characters don#t have equipment. The character is the character.
ãInaba Residentã
Banned
It also has weapons locked away in boxes with an extremely low drop rate.
DoublePayje
Banned
Worse than, for example, offering microtransaction packages in Assassins Creed that cost so much money there is not even enough content to unlock with them? Unity does that. Hiding gameplay elements behind it? Black Ops 3 does that, Overwatch will not Blizzard announced.
No, and stop talking bullshit. Do you think anyone gave a fuck if "chop chop", "lets go in sneaky beaky like" and so on would be behind a paywall in CSGO? Also, the speechlines are randomized. Tracer can randomly say "cheers love, the cavalry is here" or you get the item and you can press a button and say it whenever you like.
Every character in Overwatch has way more lines than just one. So please, nobody imagine that. Because OP is bullshitting you. Yeah and sure, the game gets more immersive when i can spam "that is SIR for you!" with my Soldier 76. Mind you, i do spam it all the time, but only because i am one of those hateful online players who would shit on my own team in chat if i had no other option to vent. (sorry for that by the way guys).
So you CAN unlock those speeches? Nice. By the way, if you want speech, its fucking cheap. You can buy tons of it till level 20 if you want, i already got every line for every character i want. Only through ingame currency.
You know who hides actual weapons behind randomized drops? Call of Duty, with Advanced Warfare and Black Ops 3. You cannot get those weapons through missions, events or anything. Just luck. You cant even buy them through a micro transaction, just pure RNG luck. Is that maybe worse? (hint: it is!)
So OP calm your ass down. You are overreacting way too hard.
CyanideFuse
Member
"a new low"
OK.
It is cheaper than a normal engagement (?) ring. I would prefer that to a real one if my partner sent / gave it to me. Frugal and game-related.
Wickerbasket
Member
ITT: a bunch of people complaining about a game they haven't played.
Also people, it's just new taunts you're unlocking, and they can be unlocked by playing the game.
Again, it's just one voice line that is said randomly. Banter between characters, calling for a medic, reactions to the current mission objective are not affected by it and characters talk a fuckton so it's not like anybody's gotta pay here to make their characters talk. It's literally just one voice line you can say on demand if you want to, that's it, a wav, a customization, just like a skin is.
Unless you think Lucio running around telling people they gotta believe is crucial to Overwatch's gameplay.
MarcoZombieCannon
Member
FYI, all those prices you're seeing is for in-game[/] gold, not actual money. The only thing that costs money are the random loot boxes.
So it has exactly one microtransaction. In the entire game. by the by, that's all they've said they would be monetising. Fuck, I don't think even the boxes would be buyable initially but people asked for them.
So nah, not a new low because Evolve still exists.
So it has exactly one microtransaction. In the entire game. by the by, that's all they've said they would be monetising. Fuck, I don't think even the boxes would be buyable initially but people asked for them.
So nah, not a new low because Evolve still exists.
SmartWaffles
Member
Also the actual lines that reflect personalities and relationships are trigged in game automatically, they are not locked away. The voice line unlockables are just emotes that have to be activated manually and are flavor only. And voice line are cheap, 25 coins a piece, if you want them, around several hours tops net you enough coins to unlock all voice lines for one character.
LOL. In contracts maybe.
veloxStrix
Banned
Honestly, what does it matter? If you took out all the skins, poses, voices, sprays and what have you out of the game entirely, I'd still play it. For me, it's just bread and butter. If I had everything unlocked to begin with, I doubt I'd even use the feature. I'd just find something for each character and stay with it.
Not to mention the whole argument is dumb. Halo 3 made you play the game to unlock things. Overwatch does the same thing with the option to pay and speed up the process. The money goes to the devs which encourages them to make the lifespan of the game longer. I don't see an issue.
You could think that and OP is still wrong though. Every voice clip integral to the game is there and not tied to any unlock. It's an incredibly ignorant point to try to make.
uncleniccius
Member
You can unlock everything in game and if you unlock duplicates from a loot box you get given currency which you can use to unlock what you want.
It is all cosmetic and much like in u4 is being used instead of paid dlc - all future content will be free.
I really don't see the issue. You can unlock everything in game and you can't buy stuff that makes you better. It isn't being an apologist as well, this isn't that bad.
Hell, plenty of games have guns you have to buy.. I'm looking at you TLOU. This is nowhere near that level.
Wickerbasket
Member
You can do that with the ingame gold you earn by playing/opening crates.
WaterAstro
Member
They're free, but what if......
Map Microtransaction:
1) Being able to see textures - $25
2) Footstep sound effect when moving - $50
3) Lights (yes you cannot see without this) - $100
Character Microtransaction:
1) Left Click unlock - $5
2) Right Click unlock - $10
3) WASD unlock - $20 (only purchasable after unlocking Left and Right Click)
4) Character License to allow you to make cartoon porn with this character - FREE!
If you can't tell, I'm joking.
General_Zod
Banned
Who gives a shit, it does;t effect the game play or give other players an advantage.
There are far worse examples out there than Overwatch.
My biggest grumble is the price for a multi-player only game with no campaign, will I still by it? more than likely.
There are far worse examples out there than Overwatch.
My biggest grumble is the price for a multi-player only game with no campaign, will I still by it? more than likely.
It's not a full priced title, it's £30. For that you get all the modes, characters, maps, and functionality. For that £30 you even get access to all the new maps and characters they plan to add.
As you level up you earn new lines and skins, or the currency to buy the ones you want.
If you want to accelerate the process you can opt to pay for it.
If you don't want the extras then don't buy them. It's fine, just earn things as you go. No one gains an advantage out of it anyway.
As you level up you earn new lines and skins, or the currency to buy the ones you want.
If you want to accelerate the process you can opt to pay for it.
If you don't want the extras then don't buy them. It's fine, just earn things as you go. No one gains an advantage out of it anyway.
MarcoZombieCannon
Member
Just... dude are you trying to equate unlockable taunts to characterization? I hope you're not serious and this is just one gigantic troll thread that slipped by somehow.
"I can't have all the voiced taunts from the get-go therefore worst nickle and diming ever and I'm being locked out of potential character info etc"
Just, what?!
"I can't have all the voiced taunts from the get-go therefore worst nickle and diming ever and I'm being locked out of potential character info etc"
Just, what?!
uncleniccius
Member
I don't have an issue with it, but it is full price on consoles.
TheSpoiler
Member
How do you know they won't make you pay? It's too much money on the table. I don't trust them.
You sure? If I want the voices I have to earn them but that's bullshit. I should just have them all listed out for me. And I'll wait and see on the DLC. You never know.
/s
veloxStrix
Banned
I think you are arguing against a game you have never played. About a detail that is barely even noticeable. You don't know you look silly, but you do.
MMaRsu
Member
But.. you can do that?
You get momey from.the loot boxes you unlock so you can save up for the item you want
Well, it makes sense from a business perspective. They just can't sell skins and voice/spray packs for offensive prices like in Heroes of the Storm. See, only a handful of skins are even worth buying as the rest are just lazy re-colors - it simply wouldn't work.
Instead they make you buy 50 loot boxes for the EU-equivalent of $45 which, on average, will get you 2.5 epic and 0.5 legendary "loot" items. So a single legendary skin nets them $90 on average. That is amazing.
Instead they make you buy 50 loot boxes for the EU-equivalent of $45 which, on average, will get you 2.5 epic and 0.5 legendary "loot" items. So a single legendary skin nets them $90 on average. That is amazing.