Damn dad is angry and that says a lot when such a calm guy like Kaplan gets mad at you. You dun goofed.
I love it.
What did they nerf? Haven't kept up.
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I love it.
What did they nerf? Haven't kept up.
On the other hand tanks, supports and team coordination are still what decide games at the highest levels of coordinated play. What is Blizzard supposed to do, have balanced support heroes that suffer in soloque, or strong support heroes that break coordinated play?
They slowed down the speed of RIPTire, supposedly back to its original speed.
Spike Spiegel
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Had a pretty good Mystery Heroes match going on Hollywood until the end, and that last choke point. The opposing team was given 2 Widowmakers, a D.Va, a Junkrat, a Mei and a Zenyatta to defend with, and we kept getting no healer. I managed to make my way through the choke point and around the trailer to kill the 2 Widowmakers with Mei of all people, but overtime ran out as I was freezing the second one and we lost.
It's funny; I'm warming to using Mei in the other game modes but as McCree I f*cking HATE seeing her in FFA Deathmatch almost as much as I hate seeing Symmetra.
It's funny; I'm warming to using Mei in the other game modes but as McCree I f*cking HATE seeing her in FFA Deathmatch almost as much as I hate seeing Symmetra.
Kor of Memory
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Nuno Pinto
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I made a thread about Ana on the official forums today.
It was a mistake.
That shit is on fire with the ptr changes, my topic disappeared in 2m. Gonna wait for a good while to bump it.
TWrecks310
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Here's Dallas's OWL team: Dallas Fuel. Along with a cool Genji skin.
Junkrat has two mines. Hell be good.
benicillin
Banned
I wonder what team is going to get stuck with a Mercy skin just in time for her to get binned.
I don't know if this is going too far with her res. Mercy's ult is still pretty good even without res spam because the chain beam + self-sustainability really helps teams get a foothold on a point more easily, and it lasts way longer than Zen's ult. Sometimes snapping to AoE damage boost to get a quick pick or to finish a guy off before snapping back to AoE healing is great.
I think I would have liked to have it reset the res cooldown, without the cooldown reduction afterwards, though. No res cooldown reset means that Mercy can't mindlessly res the first death regardless of who it is anymore, which I guess might be the point.
I think I would have liked to have it reset the res cooldown, without the cooldown reduction afterwards, though. No res cooldown reset means that Mercy can't mindlessly res the first death regardless of who it is anymore, which I guess might be the point.
It has electrolytes.
Yea, Ult nerf ain't a big deal. The double mines is what makes him extra good to me.
papasmurf1038
Neo Member
I think this is pretty much correct, yeah. Supports as a concept run contrary to the experience that most people are coming to Overwatch for, which is to have a fun, relaxing, and empowering time shooting stuff. People don't want to learn to play around supports, so they'll keep complaining for as long as she has a big impact on matches.
Nuno Pinto
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Here's Dallas's OWL team: Dallas Fuel. Along with a cool Genji skin.
I'm wondering... it's not likely that these skins will be available in the normal lootboxes right? Will they actually add an option to buy individual items using real money?
Or maybe there will be an event related to OW league where the lootboxes profit will be shared with the teams?
Are there other examples of e-sports games like this to give us an idea?
TWrecks310
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The skins apply to every hero. Genji was just the one shown for this team.
Yes.
Yeah it's a weird name but it's not like traditional sports teams have weird names too i.e. Red Sox
Here's Dallas's OWL team: Dallas Fuel. Along with a cool Genji skin.
DOPE
I'm getting so hyped my dudes, it's finally coming together
Well, Red Sox was because they all used to wear different colored socks in Baseball so that made sense. I guess a weirder name is something like the Lakers. What does that even mean.
TWrecks310
Banned
Teams get a portion of their revenue through people paying for cosmetics, although the exact model of all of this is unknown as of now.
benicillin
Banned
If anything I think it's the exact opposite. Overwatch was super popular with wide swaths of players BECAUSE it had characters like Mercy. That's exactly the experience a lot of people came to Overwatch for.
I didn't know the skins for teams were for every character, that's cool.
Nuno Pinto
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It would be cool if they talk about it at blizzcon.
TWrecks310
Banned
Considering there is 45 minutes set for OWL talk on the Blizzcon schedule, they probably will.
Nuno Pinto
Member
Sounds promising.
Even with the speed increase, after they nerfed it from flying high, it was shot down pretty easily by good players in my games. Just need to be clever with it again.
papasmurf1038
Neo Member
Definitely a lot of folks were attracted to the game by characters who don't have a focus on aim. That's certainly what brought me to Overwatch; in general I find lining up a reticle over a dude to be incredibly dull.
But if you take a look at the role distributions on Overbuff, there's about twice as many people playing DPS heroes over Supports. So their complaints predominate and shape the game, and now all four healers have been dramatically nerfed since launch. Which makes the game a lot less interesting to me, personally, and likely alienates a lot of the broader audience you mention. But it's what the loudest plurality is clamoring for.
People are going to play DPS regardless of balance dominantly just because its a shooter
so youd think theyd say 'fuck em' and balance around the tanks and supports, but pro gengu stream gets more views than pro mercy stream
DR2K
Banned
Can we please nerf the other healers? Why should everyone get a sound barrier, make it one target. Why should transcendence apply to more than one target? Why does the biotic grenade apply to more than one target.
DPS class needs a major buff. Add 30 second cool downs to all barrier type moves.
DPS class needs a major buff. Add 30 second cool downs to all barrier type moves.
GrandHarrier
Member
I knew this was going to happen when I argued in the rework PTR thread/s against this version of Mercy. It was so obvious they would change her and then nerf her.
She almost has the worst ult in the game now.
She almost has the worst ult in the game now.
I at least can get behind THIS idea.
You can see this mentality extending to the pro scene to some extent. Some teams are full of good individual players, but seem to lack synergy because everyone is always trying to be the hero and carry the others.
You also sometimes see fans talking about how this or that player is bad and should be kicked just because he wasn't front and center all day making hero plays. When in reality, sometimes players are instructed to focus on supporting other players and specifically to avoid trying to be the hero.
You also sometimes see fans talking about how this or that player is bad and should be kicked just because he wasn't front and center all day making hero plays. When in reality, sometimes players are instructed to focus on supporting other players and specifically to avoid trying to be the hero.
GrandHarrier
Member
Yeah she just ends up with a low impact (terrible) ultimate as the cost of all of this. The "buff" of "double range on rez" is just insulting. So instead of having to be directly on the corpse you can be a few steps away from it. Thanks Daddy Kaplan.
TWrecks310
Banned
The second LA OWL team owned by Kroenke is confirmed to have the name LA Gladiators through a trademark listing.
I think there was some talk that today was supposed to be a big day for OWL news so I'll try to post everything here.
I think there was some talk that today was supposed to be a big day for OWL news so I'll try to post everything here.
Karsticles
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Issue: current balance team is aimless and bad at balancing the game. Most heroes do not see significant competitive play even one year after release.Damn dad is angry and that says a lot when such a calm guy like Kaplan gets mad at you. You dun goofed.
Productive suggestion: get a new balance team.
Seems clear to me.
icecold1983
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i agree wholeheartedly with that guy. Jeff should also be replaced
TWrecks310
Banned
Overwatchscore did some digging and found out a little more about the Kroenke L.A. team.
https://www.overwatchscore.com/overwatch-league-teams/updates-los-angeles-2/amp/
According to their sources they have Kungarna's coach and Bischu, the off-tank player for Kungarna.
https://www.overwatchscore.com/overwatch-league-teams/updates-los-angeles-2/amp/
According to their sources they have Kungarna's coach and Bischu, the off-tank player for Kungarna.
Dead Prince
Banned
would the feedback from the pro scene help.
this whole internal team just isn't working.
most of those dudes don't know team synergy, what it means to be a role player or just being giving a certain job in a match up.
it's team sports 101 type of shit so it's not surprising they don't get it
Kor of Memory
Member
Counter point. While not every character has been viable from release through the present, roughly 90% of the character case has been viable at one point or another. It seems as more time passes the amount of characters that are totally viable at one given time has steadily been increasing.
icecold1983
Member
if your job is to make video games and you arent good at making video games, id say its warranted
I never would have cared about Overwatch in the first place had I not randomly tried the game and played as Mercy at the PAX East before its release.
I think if you're capable of creating and working in the environment that birthed Overwatch in a world where most people can't even code their way out of a paper bag, you are automatically good at making video games.
I dunno. A game that has sustained a level of popularity like OW has can't be doing too much wrong in terms of entertaining its players.
Granted, they could be doing better, but I don't think the balance changes warrant such action yet. If everyone suddenly abandons the game, that'd be a different story.
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