Nothing wrong with this picture right blizzard?
Really wish they balanced a bit better.
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Nothing wrong with this picture right blizzard?
Really wish they balanced a bit better.
Really the only problem I see is the ability to ult through solid objects, what sense does that make? It should have been more like fist of havoc (air version) in Destiny, you initiate it, and have a very brief moment to aim it, none of this flying around the map and through buildings stuff, lol.
Karsticles
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I'm thinking Roadhog got nerfed because Doomfist also has a 1HKO. Blizzard probably thought it would be cool to nerf Roadhog, upset Hog mains for a few weeks, and then "surprise" them with an effective replacement.
Yeah, he's already one of the most mobile characters in the game. Though you could look at it as an opportunity to get away and spread out.
Doomfist plus Torb armor plus Sym shield generator plus Zarya bubbles plus Lucio speed boost plus Winston shield -- holy moly.
The Artful Dodger
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EMP Activated.
Well as a (former) Roadhog player, that's a crap idea from Blizzard. Doomfist is no where near an effective replacement to character that used to be able to protect your healers from annoying flankers.
Haha, so true. I'm glad I have been practicing with Sombra too.
I was thinking of flipping the triggers for him.
The Artful Dodger
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Watching Doomfist, I can't tell if he's broken so much as he'll drive a really uncoordinated team insane.
Also I feel like Tracer could just eat him alive.
Also I feel like Tracer could just eat him alive.
Lazy vs Crazy
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How much of Rein not getting played right now is the general meta shift and how much of it is his charge and ult not working right?
Like if he were back to working correctly would the meta shift around him again?
Like if he were back to working correctly would the meta shift around him again?
Fixed2BeBroken
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more general meta shift
LucidMomentum
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Geez, hacking Doomfist will practically make him useless.
Though, he has a lot of mobility. So I don't think it's gonna happen often.
Hear Mercy use Rez, pop Doomfist Ult. Aim radius over rezzed guys and as soon as the Rez invulnerability wears off, land on top for easy kills. Was watching Seagull do this a few times.
The Artful Dodger
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I know Orisa is laughed at a lot but do we think her kit is a good counter to Doomfist? or is her hitbox too big?
Just trying to think of heroes that we may not consider when looking at good matchups against him.
Yeah I think, catching him in EMP might be easier than trying to hack him.
Just trying to think of heroes that we may not consider when looking at good matchups against him.
Yeah I think, catching him in EMP might be easier than trying to hack him.
Totally balanced!!!
Kayo Police
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Interesting I was expecting Genji to be able to reflect Doomfist's abilities like he can with Rein's swings but he can't.
There's an easy solution to the dive meta and it requires no new heroes
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Initial impressions against people that don't know what they're doing, but:
-Torb and Sym give him lots of hassle
-Reaper can light him up
-Genji can dodge most of his kit with ease
As someone who's not a Hog main but is still salty about the nerf, Doomfist's reveal makes the sting worse because the hook would be great for going after Doomfist hopping around everywhere but not with Hog's current damage and DF's shields.
The difference between Doomfist's 1hit kill and Roadhog's is that Hog's is extremely safe. In the tank meta he could just pull people behind his Rein's barrier and pick them off one by one and even pull tanks in and kill them by letting the team gangbang the tank behind the reins shield while he hooked
Doomfist's 1hko requires him going into enemy territory unless its picking off a straggler
Doomfist's 1hko requires him going into enemy territory unless its picking off a straggler
LucidMomentum
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finalflame
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School being out for the summer is definitely having an impact on game quality across the board -- I even noticed it in comp. I'm US, if you are too add me up on bnet:
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TWrecks310
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Not even close to true, and I don't think you truly understand what a counter is.
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thepotatoman
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Also there needs to be a wall behind the enemy, and it seems like it doesn't work at too wide of an angle.
I dont think you do either
But Roadhog wasn't able to hook through barriers. If he nabbed someone, he had to either flank or that person had to be out of position.
Doomfist doesn't have that limitation, and unlike Reinhardt's charge, he has strong mobility options to get himself out of enemy territory. He's more likely die for charging than Roadhog's hook was for Roadhog, but it also Doomfist has a higher chance of getting a hit on his charge than Roadhog does getting a nab with his hook, and he's got plenty of options to escape
Edit: As Seagull demonstrates with Papercut's link
This, however, isn't taking into considering if you have your team protecting you with stuff, like Zarya's barrier. With coordination, he'll be way harder to stop than Roadhog's hook ever was.
And then doom fist immediately can uppercut, dash away and his charge is 4 seconds so by then it's nearly up and he can peace out.
https://clips.twitch.tv/DeliciousFitQueleaCopyThis
Like this basically.
Or in a bad spot he can ult since it's totally invincible which negates any risk of going deep. And if you're going to mention RH during a tank meta that favors his abilities, how about this during a dive meta where he's not going in solo and has the usual suspects making chaos alongside him, adding a new 4 second charge kill to the mix.
He's naturally not nearly as safe as Roadhog is but RH also has zero mobility. The main thing sticking out to me for now is that I don't like doomfist's ult design at all right now.
This just flat out shouldn't happen. There should not be such a thing as an offensive ult without a possible counter.
TWrecks310
Banned
There are few characters in the game that Roadhog shits on so badly that he legitimately counters them. A true counter is D.Va blocking Pharah rockets or Ana heals. Roadhog happening to hook a Genji and kill them does not mean he counters Genji.
Also he was not OP at the time of his nerf but I feel like I'm beating a dead horse there.
Kayo Police
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Also I know this isnt a big deal to most but the ability to customize your crosshair is awesome to me.
Fixed2BeBroken
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TheDrizzlerJ11
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Roadhog in his previous form made the game less fun to play. Hes fine now. He could use a slight buff but honestly he's a tank. Team him up with any close range dmg and it's game over. Tanks should require teamwork to get things done, they're tanks.
Yea, better than DVa cuz it's almost instant and precise.
finalflame
Banned
Just spread out.
Well he can't reflect Rein's charge or Hammer down so I guess it's similar in that regard.
Karsticles
Member
Hmm. So these barrier things keep a character like Roadhog safe? I wonder if it might be beneficial to put your character behind one so Roadhog can't hook you.
Is that why he was tier 4 in competitive play before he was nerfed? Because he was just too damn good?
How the fuck is a less than 5% pick rate "fine"?
No, Roadhog is not good tank. He's not a good anything right now. He's trash.
You can Lucio ult to negate I think.
Funny, those barriers that Roadhog is also extremely good at destroying.
So you're only counting the seasons that are beneficial to you then?
Karsticles
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...why would I count previous seasons to determine how effective a hero currently is?
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I swear you're just shitposting.
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I swear you're just shitposting.
Perhaps counter is the wrong word, but he shouldn't just become invincible for no reason just because he's up in the air.
Seagull negated a tracer bomb by jumping up in the air, where it exploded without damaging him. That's dumb. He shouldn't just able to just "Lolbye" without consequence. People should still be able to fire on him.
finalflame
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Does Rocket Punch do damage through Zarya's bubble? Or does it damage the bubble? Jeff said it ignores barriers.
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