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yea, all quad kill trophies require it.
Understand that I'm not trying to be rude when I say this but some of you need some thicker skin. Mute the whiners and complainers and try to communicate with those folks who are genuinely trying hard. Chances are you will meet some cool people and have a better game as a result.
That's my philosophy anyway.
That's my philosophy anyway.
wild wild rice
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Aren't there two chat options? Team and Group or something? What is the difference between the two?
I have both turned off, but if one option means I can talk with friends directly instead of starting a party from the PS4 menu, then cool.
I've been considering communicating with strangers recently to see if it makes the game better in any way.
I have both turned off, but if one option means I can talk with friends directly instead of starting a party from the PS4 menu, then cool.
I've been considering communicating with strangers recently to see if it makes the game better in any way.
Group only let's you hear people in your group. You should keep that on. Team is with everyone including the randoms.
wild wild rice
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You're not being rude IMO, but sometimes toxicity can be very detrimental to your team's performance. It's basic human factors.
Berserking Guts
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I wish there was a team of me I could join up with.
divisionbyzorro
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It's all in the tone of voice. Sometimes I'll get in chat and ask someone to switch - hopefully I'm polite enough to not ruin team chemistry, and I'll only do it when I think the hero pick is bad enough to risk people's attitude (i.e., attack Torb). But then sometimes you'll get someone in chat who yells at the team "YOU CAN'T DEFEND TEMPLE OF ANUBIS WITHOUT A BASTION ONE OF YOU NEEDS TO PICK BASTION" and then I'm just muting chat at that point.
I think a lot of it is just with the tone or words used to express the same thing. There's a good and a bad way to ask someone to switch characters.
Wyndstryker
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Did the Bnet servers just choke for you guys?
LordAmused
Member
Yup. Down here on PC. Was having a good game...Goddamnit. Only Quickplay though.
PC
optimus8936
Banned
What if the entire team is toxic? How are you supposed to communicate when everyone else on mic decides to gang up on someone because they're losing? If that happens, they've probably given up and you're gonna lose.
Honestly, at this point, if someone's toxic, I'm just gonna yell at them and tell them to shut up, otherwise the teams morale is just gonna keep getting hurt by that guy. Not everyone mutes people.
killdatninja
Banned
This is my experience as well 2500-2800, for 1 out of every 6 solo-queue games. It's usually only one guy, and he's always playing a DPS/Sniper/Roadhog. In the rare event that it's a support character that's being an asshole, it's usually because he's dying quick because he's the only one on the point like a dipshit. Dancing in the point with Lucio does not help the team, get out of there and regroup.
If they don't have a mic, they'll choose the character they want you to play by picking them, blink twice and go back to their Hanzo pick. This process is repeated until they realize no one is going to change.
If there is no support character, and you pick anyone other than Lucio, you will probably be flamed. If there is no tank, and you pick anyone other than Reinhardt, you'll probably get a lot of grief, this usually ends with a "this could work, but would work better with Reinhardt". If you pick anyone in the sniper class (Ana included), you'll be the first to be blamed for not doing anything. If you pick anyone in the defense class, you'll probably be told to play XXX character instead. Basically, if you pick anyone outside the old 2/2/2 meta, regardless of buff/nerf, you'll still get told that the team fucking sucks.
LordAmused
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Not this again!
Wyndstryker
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Felt like a DDOS, smelled like one. Not surprised.
Only once I d/c'd from bnet from a non-DDOS situation and was able to reconnect. Every other time was a DDOS.
I blame the Ana in one of the games complaining on voice chat that Mercy should be healing...considering I was the mercy and I was dead it does help to look at the kill feed.
Only once I d/c'd from bnet from a non-DDOS situation and was able to reconnect. Every other time was a DDOS.
I blame the Ana in one of the games complaining on voice chat that Mercy should be healing...considering I was the mercy and I was dead it does help to look at the kill feed.
Were we playing together last night? Was it on Hollywood? Fuck that guy playing widowmaker!
Berserking Guts
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For fucks sakes. Love you ana, I do. But stop powering me up when there's no one around for me to kill.
As Rein it baffles me when ppl power me up before I can even take advantage of it. And it completely blows the element of surprise. By the time I reach any potential fodder, they've already scattered. Power me up when I'm in the thick of it.
As Rein it baffles me when ppl power me up before I can even take advantage of it. And it completely blows the element of surprise. By the time I reach any potential fodder, they've already scattered. Power me up when I'm in the thick of it.
Yeah that route 66 was a disaster.Sorry Jellie about leaving
Internet was so fucking awful. Everyone was just teleporting to me. I don't even know how I got a triple kill with dragonblade lmao.
And fuck that Genji in Route 66. He ruined me every single time. It's good Genji play but damn it hurt.
Not sure where the junkrat or roadhog were. Never saw them much.
I find that more often than not, people aren't trying to be jerks over mics and are trying to cooperate to win. The games where there's someone constantly yelling, I instantly leave and probably subconsciously play worse so that guy will take a loss. In the games where people are having a good time joking around while working together, we're more likely to win
Kor of Memory
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In my experience, calling people out on their negativity seems to work more often than it doesn't.
I've done it a few times, telling them they aren't helping the situation, and to be more optimistic, which has resulted in an apology here and there, and sometimes even an entire change in attitude.
I seem to know how to say things just the right way, though.
I've done it a few times, telling them they aren't helping the situation, and to be more optimistic, which has resulted in an apology here and there, and sometimes even an entire change in attitude.
I seem to know how to say things just the right way, though.
Don't be a jerk and people will listen. But most people don't have people skills on the Internet.
Kor of Memory
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Whelp... I feel terrible, but i intentionally downranked myself so I can keep playing comp with my wife.
I very much had to fight with myself for a bit on this.
I very much had to fight with myself for a bit on this.
I agree with you. I always attempt to lighten things up and get people focused on the objective (winning!) instead of yelling but it doesn't always work. If there's a whole team that's gone toxic (and I actually haven't had this happen to me, usually it is just one or two people) then I would probably just be quiet and do the best that I could do in that situation.
Usually though, it is just one or two people with the rest of the team just wanting to do well and play well. Generally I can work with that situation.
Kor of Memory
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It's weird, I'll take toxicity over defeatism any day.
If a teammate is toxic, people can ignore them or mute them, and likely do. But the Toxic player is likely still playing to his abilities.
The other day, I played with a guy who as soon as the game started, told us about how he recognized the guys on the enemy team, and how we're going to lose. Guy didn't even try. And when I told him to lighten up, he just doubled down on how I'll see what he's talking about soon.
Of course we ended up losing, and for the second round, he just went Mei and kept blocking off his own teammates just to get the game over faster.
That shit was the worst, and i was fortunate enough to get paired with him twice in a row.
If a teammate is toxic, people can ignore them or mute them, and likely do. But the Toxic player is likely still playing to his abilities.
The other day, I played with a guy who as soon as the game started, told us about how he recognized the guys on the enemy team, and how we're going to lose. Guy didn't even try. And when I told him to lighten up, he just doubled down on how I'll see what he's talking about soon.
Of course we ended up losing, and for the second round, he just went Mei and kept blocking off his own teammates just to get the game over faster.
That shit was the worst, and i was fortunate enough to get paired with him twice in a row.
Defeatist attitudes are just as bad. When people look at a team and say "oh no, they're gonna be hard to beat" or whatever, just keep it to yourself. Don't try to get us feeling down before the match even starts. When j joined random groups in the past, I've heard these things and it annoyed me so much.
And yea, when they give up instead of trying, that's even worse. Fucking loser mentality which is why they will rank down.
And yea, when they give up instead of trying, that's even worse. Fucking loser mentality which is why they will rank down.
There was a Junkrat on our team?? The Roadhog was awful. Even in the POTG, he hooked Reaper after his death blossom had killed 3 people and he only had like 150 health left so he died to Reaper anyway.
I'll be on in an hour and hopefully my internet will be a bit better. It just seems to shit the bed when it's the evening or weekend. Sky are just terrible, will probably switch to Virgin if they can't sort it.
The Wizard
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Just got on if you wanna group up. I'll try my best to play better than yesterday haha.
Kor of Memory
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I like this guys energy, and pretty much do everything he is saying on a regular basis.
Not true. I got my Genji quad trophy with only one killing blow and three assists. Same with Reaper. Hell, I even got the Ana quad nano-assist trophy with a Reaper who got three killing blows and one assist.
There are trophies that will specify that you need the killing blow (off the top of my head - Soldier's Helix double kill and Lucio's wall riding trophies). Otherwise, this is not the case.
I never got any of the quad kill trophies from assists. Even the Genji one when it said "Quadruple Kill" once. All mine had 4 killing blows. Wish I got them with assists. Did you get them recently?
optimus8936
Banned
Luckily, this doesn't always happen. On KOTH, we immediately went down 2-0 with a 2-2-2 comp, and our Tracer decides to only use his mic to say "this team is worthless" and never said a word after that. Probably because I immediately plugged my mic in and said "yeah, you're really helping, we are sure going to win if you spread that attitude."
We went with 4 DPS and won 3-2. Yep, our team was definitely worthless lol.
The key is to always be optimistic and think of the other team as trash. Keeps me in the game!
SirClinksAlot
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Like I don't even care if you want to stick with the same character, fine. Whatever, you like sniping. Just don't start cursing at the rest of us who are actually switching and trying to find something that works. I mean, why do that?
So anyway, since I turned off mics I played two competitive matches. Both times we got down 0-2 on KOTH and both times we forced a 5th match which was great! Went 1-1 in the games but it was at least nice to have teams that didn't just bail after getting down and also tried switching things up to counter.
I can tell you now after spending 20 hours getting Genji's quad kill, you definitely need to get the killing blows during dragon blade. I don't know if dash/reflect work but eliminations don't count. You have to be on the kill feed. I went countless times getting 4-5 eliminations during dragonblade but never got the trophy.
Berserking Guts
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Kings Row. Attack. Defense B.
Bastion is murdering us around the corner on the far end. he's tearing my Rein shields to shreds, and I have to continuously find cover while poor Mercy tries to keep us all alive.
And through all this we have a god damn Pharah and Soldier 76 who are allowing this to happen for what seems like ages.
I wanted to message the Pharah at the end of the losing match. But I didn't want to be that person. Just really frustrating that they were letting Bastion do this. He was out in the open. Few rockets or helix rockets would have killed him in no time.
Bastion is murdering us around the corner on the far end. he's tearing my Rein shields to shreds, and I have to continuously find cover while poor Mercy tries to keep us all alive.
And through all this we have a god damn Pharah and Soldier 76 who are allowing this to happen for what seems like ages.
I wanted to message the Pharah at the end of the losing match. But I didn't want to be that person. Just really frustrating that they were letting Bastion do this. He was out in the open. Few rockets or helix rockets would have killed him in no time.
optimus8936
Banned
If one of you is a good DPS, that can go a long way. The other person would probably be best being a good tank or support.
I only really get mad at people who are clearly being hard countered to a point that it might actually be more helpful if they stayed in spawn because all they seem to be doing is feeding ult to the enemy team, but they never switch characters.
See:
The Pharah who is going into a team with double MeCree's and a Soldier.
The Winston who is being shredded by Reaper.
The Torrbjorn on a 2CP map spent the entire first round failing to get a turret anywhere useful.
etc.
See:
The Pharah who is going into a team with double MeCree's and a Soldier.
The Winston who is being shredded by Reaper.
The Torrbjorn on a 2CP map spent the entire first round failing to get a turret anywhere useful.
etc.
Bumbletron
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As the game currently is: Ana and Rein/Zarya
Kor of Memory
Member
1 Tank and 1 Healer.
This way, you two can rely on each other since your relationship is one of the most important ones. DPS is one of the most favored classes, so randoms are going to be thrilled that someone jumped on the "hard" jobs right off the bat. They'll probably play better because of it.
Kor of Memory
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I know this is an ironic PotG, but I'm still pretty pleased with this PotG I got as Symmetra a couple months ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGN48RDioyM
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