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Neuron calibration in the new jaeger>>Mako gone in the deep end and try to shoot everyone>>they both grounded>>OMG we're losing!!>>Gypsi Danger dispatched.

I'm still trying to work out how this relates to the sword button.

They both share memories/thoughts. So one of them must know about the sword.
5 minutes before they use it at a less than ideal time, they were using a tanker as a club. They could have torn apart several Kaiju with the sword, but they wait to use it as a last ditch effort to break free. Yes, 'movies' and all that - but it was stupid.
 
My only negatives is we could've used a montage showing some of the earlier Jaeger defeating some kaiju. If not I could've seen at least a kill from cherno, and crimson typhoon. Striker didn't get enough to show how bad ass he is.
 
I'm still trying to work out how this relates to the sword button.

They both share memories/thoughts. So one of them must know about the sword.
5 minutes before they use it at a less than ideal time, they were using a tanker as a club. They could have torn apart several Kaiju with the sword, but they wait to use it as a last ditch effort to break free. Yes, 'movies' and all that - but it was stupid.

If you're willing to take it as something that's not a plot hole;

-we can assume that the memories that they shared was the intimates and personal ones as a way of bonding (neural handshake)---as in to get both brain agree working with each other.
-when they're linked, they only thought of something when the other thought of it first---which in this case, was the sword.
 
My ideal Pacific Rim 2 pilots:

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Just think about it.
 
If you're willing to take it as something that's not a plot hole;

-we can assume that the memories that they shared was the intimates and personal ones as a way of bonding (neural handshake)---as in to get both brain agree working with each other.
-when they're linked, they only thought of something when the other thought of it first---which in this case, was the sword.

I just felt it was ridiculous.
Having a sword that can slice a Category 3 (and 4?) right down the middle is as good as, if not more important than the plasma cannon. I simply didn't feel, now, or while watching the movie - that it was something that could have been forgotten about. I'd sooner rip that fucker out in a 1 on 1 situation than the plasma cannon they were so reliant on.
 
The Summer 2013 blockbuster season seems to be the host of a slew of movies infatuated with the notion of bland apocalyptic scenarios, stark and chaotic imagery that harks back to 9/11, and pessimism adorned with moody and sulking protagonists. It's become exhausting.

Pacific Rim decidedly takes a different direction. In the face of utter despondence, the world bands together to save its inhabitants. It's about holding on to any shred of hope you can, even when there seems to be none. The film boasts an old-fashioned but much appreciated breed of heroism. It's refreshing, even if it doesn't quite reach the full depths of its potential.

Also, I quite like the Half-Life vibes surrounding the origins of the Kaiju. Newt's explanation as to why the Earth was being attacked is reminiscent of the Combine's invasion of Earth in Half-Life 2.

Did the movie say there were once 35 Jaegers? The 5-year gap would make a great, but depressing, comic series on how it dwindled down to two operational robots, the new Striker model and the revamped Gypsy.

30 Jaegers.

It wouldn't be entirely despondent, as they were heroically winning upon the program's genesis. The prequel comic does cover a bit more of this, but the idea is that we're witnessing the last chapters in a saga.

I'd liken its framing to Star Wars, except the franchise's staple "credit scroll" was obviated and replaced with a 5 minute prologue.
 
I walked out of the movie both disappointed and in awe at the same time.

I think the Jaegers & Kaiju's were fucking outstanding. Without a doubt watching some of the Jaegers get torn apart was incredible and horrifying at the same time - easily some of the best action I've ever seen in a movie.

I think outside of that the movie had some serious flaws. Charlie Hunnam is a terrible actor. The moment I saw him walking like his Sons of Anarchy home-boy I was immediately put off. Watching him stand there holding his belt buckle was cringe-worthy.

Have to agree with most of what you said.

I think there are just too many Jaegers. The moive simply isn't long enough for all four of them. Make the story about Gypsy and Striker, only show Crimson Typhoon & Cherno in flashback. Also, for a huge weapon like that, you'd think they have at least two crews for each Jaegers, at least!

The science dude and the math dude are just as bad as the geologist and the biologist in Prometheus.

Then there is that neural connection thing. Why do they still need to yell at each other if they are neurally connected? If they will be sharing the most intimate memory during battle, shouldn't they be real intimate in real life as well? I mean, you kinda need to be lovers before co-pilots.
 
you know, if they are gonna sequel this, they are totally gonna have to toy it up. A ton of different jaegers that don't die instantly combined with a huge toy push partnership with like hasbro or something.
 
Have to agree with most of what you said.

I think there are just too many Jaegers. The moive simply isn't long enough for all four of them. Make the story about Gypsy and Striker, only show Crimson Typhoon & Cherno in flashback. Also, for a huge weapon like that, you'd think they have at least two crews for each Jaegers, at least!

The science dude and the math dude are just as bad as the geologist and the biologist in Prometheus.

Then there is that neural connection thing. Why do they still need to yell at each other if they are neurally connected? If they will be sharing the most intimate memory during battle, shouldn't they be real intimate in real life as well? I mean, you kinda need to be lovers before co-pilots.



No fuck that.

So glad they didn't do that. I thought they were going to when they were eating together.
 
I just felt it was ridiculous.
Having a sword that can slice a Category 3 (and 4?) right down the middle is as good as, if not more important than the plasma cannon. I simply didn't feel, now, or while watching the movie - that it was something that could have been forgotten about. I'd sooner rip that fucker out in a 1 on 1 situation than the plasma cannon they were so reliant on.

Maybe the pilots need to be exceptionally well linked to use blades effectively?

Perhaps the extra balance and control needed is too exhausting?

Perhaps the plasma cannon is preferred as it cauterizes the wound, somewhat mitigating "Kaiju Blue"?

I think a decent explanation working within the fiction can be accomplished.
 
The science dude and the math dude are just as bad as the geologist and the biologist in Prometheus.
No they aren't, for the very simple reason that the biologist in Pacific Rim is actually interested in alien biology.

Nothing pissed me off more in Prometheus than the biologist not being interested in alien corpses.
 
kaiju jaegers would be a bit overkill, but it's a cool idea. Just imagine, human jaeger barely destroys one of them and the kaiju ejects itself out , ready to fight, back to square one for the poor how-mans
 
As someone said before about the sword: standard anime rules dictate you save the best move for last. Goku doesn't start a fight with a spirit bomb.

The characters in Prometheus actually knew what they were doing and actively contributed to the plot.
We must've seen different movies.
 
I really enjoyed the movie but have one main complaint. They really could have used a jaeger fight in the middle of the movie. After the first fight it went basically to the end of the movie before we got another real fight. They could have had a fight showing what either the Russian or Chinese jaeger could do in the middle and it would have been perfect.

Oh and i see someone else already mentioned it but why did they need a cloak to get into the rift but going the other way with the escape pods it was cool without one?

I think they could have as well. And I think they could have had a Cherno/Crimson fight, or the flashback actually showing the fight with Coyote Tango
 
The characters in Prometheus actually knew what they were doing and actively contributed to the plot.
...Are you sure you didn't get Pacific Rim and Prometheus mixed up?

The biologist and geologist contributed nothing to Prometheus's plot. At all. They were the equivalent of random extras in a slasher flick.
 
The spectacle was like seeing Jurassic Park for the first time. The best movie an 8 year old could ever hope to see. The lead actor was awful, the dialog really cheesy and the plot paper thin. The Jaeger battle in the 3rd act might be the best action sequence in a decade. Absolutely BONKERS
 
...Are you sure you didn't get Pacific Rim and Prometheus mixed up?

The biologist and geologist contributed nothing to Prometheus's plot. At all. They were the equivalent of random extras in a slasher flick.

Indeed I did. Heh. Started off writing the sentence as "characters in Prometheus contributed nothing to the movie except dying like idiots" and that just rolled into my next sentence about PR.
 
What really surprised me was how reliant the jaegers were on a single weapon system. They seem to be built such that they can't really function unless they are paired cleanly with their kaiju. If the kaiju has stand off weapons, most of the Jaeger designs are complete shit. I would have thought that they'd have a distance attack and some form of short range melee weapon as well.

And I'm surprised that there are no other support systems around with. No coastal batteries, no air strikes, etc.
 
No fuck that.

So glad they didn't do that. I thought they were going to when they were eating together.

According to Guillermo, three endings were filmed.

Devin Faraci: I guess this is another spoiler, but you don’t end on a kiss. Why?

Guillermo Del Toro: When I was working on the movie we had three or four different versions of the relationship between Charlie and Rinko because I wanted to see if I could make a story about two people liking each other without having to end in a kiss. So when I shot the ending we shot three versions. I’ve never done this before, but instinctively I thought we should do three versions. We did one version where they kiss and it almost felt weird. They’re good friends, they’re pals, good colleagues.

Devin Faraci: It’s weird because she’s stepping into a place vacated by his brother, which indicates a tight but perhaps not fully sexualized relationship.

Guillermo Del Toro: It’s the only time I've done this, doing three versions.

Devin Faraci: So you had the kiss, no kiss and what was the third version?

Guillermo Del Toro: Basically just a huge exhale like ‘We made it.’ But the thing that stayed in the movie is the hint that there may be a love story one day, but it’s not there yet.

Source: The Badass Interview: Guillermo del Toro Gets Spoilery On PACIFIC RIM
 
Yeah...I'm glad they didn't straight up kiss in the end (lol MoS)...

I didn't mean the movie should show them kissing or having sex, but just think for a minute, isn't that kinda obvious? A kiss is "weird" but the memory of her naked in the shower last night somehow isn't?

No they aren't, for the very simple reason that the biologist in Pacific Rim is actually interested in alien biology.

Nothing pissed me off more in Prometheus than the biologist not being interested in alien corpses.

Newt being so eager to drift with the alien brain just reminded me the scene in Prometheus when the biologist touching the alien snake. Please, people, use some protection.

Also, is it just me or Newt looks like Day9 ( SC2 youtube commentator).
 
The kaiju ARE alien jaegers.

Essentially, yes.

This is why the humans end up in dire straits. The beings on the other side of the rift adapt and continue engineering monsters that rebuff the Jaegers weaponry.

Newt being so eager to drift with the alien brain just reminded me the scene in Prometheus when the biologist touching the alien snake. Please, people, use some protection.

But it's not inconsistent with Newt's character. Prior to him attempting to "drift" with the portion of the Kaiju brain, it's established that he's unorthodox and obsessed. That, and he needed to do this to learn about the origins of the Kaiju and nature of the portal in the Pacific.

Whereas in Prometheus, the biologist character acts frightened of an alien corpse, then absolutely entranced by a creature that looks threatening in the span of several minutes. It serves no purpose to the plot but to further obfuscate the purpose of the "black goo."
 
This is why the humans end up in dire straits. The beings on the other side of the rift adapt and continue engineering monsters that rebuff the Jaegers weaponry.

That's why I was mostly ok with Cherno and Crimson Typhoon getting worked. Kaiju that showed up seemed engineered to be hard counters to them.
 
Newt being so eager to drift with the alien brain just reminded me the scene in Prometheus when the biologist touching the alien snake. Please, people, use some protection.
But in Newt's case, it's understandable because Herman threw him under the bus and as a result, had no support from Pentecost. Add to this, the kaiju were ramping up their attacks. He was working on precious time and needed to scrap together something quick.

Prometheus was well-trained scientists needlessly turning into grade-schoolers for some bizarre reason.
 
Ok, was anyone else kinda hoping the Russian robot pulled out a hammer and cycle as it's melee weapons??? That would've been so bad ass.

This movie rocked btw, it was a lot of fun. I'm so glad I didn't really know anything about it going into it. Didn't even know Charlie Day was in it, so when he showed up it made it even better.
 
So I had to rush out of the theater cause my brother had to go to the bathroom (ugh...) and I missed the end of credit scene (I kinda heard it through the door but that's it.

What's happening?
 
The characters in this movie are all anime tropes. People the design of the movie looks like anime. Everything in the movie mimics anime/japanese cinema. Hunan had the bad boy anime pilot walk Rinko's whole innocent/shyness thing is something that you see in anime all the time. The asshole son would fight right in in Gundam as he reminds me of every asshole second generation pilot that that series has had. He even got the short straw like all those pilots end up getting.
 
That's why I was mostly ok with Cherno and Crimson Typhoon getting worked. Kaiju that showed up seemed engineered to be hard counters to them.

Indeed, and the Jaeger are not very flexible in their designs. Since they weren't manufacturing any more it became easy to design systems to counter the capabilities of the remainder.
 
So I had to rush out of the theater cause my brother had to go to the bathroom (ugh...) and I missed the end of credit scene (I kinda heard it through the door but that's it.

What's happening?

Hannibal Chau (played by Ron Perlman) cuts himself out of the bowels of the baby Kaiju and grits, "Where is my shoe?"

Edit: The line is actually "Where is my goddamn shoe?" Close enough.
 
I want to see it again on the biggest screen possible. Fuckin Cherno putting a headlock on leatherback, I think? And the nuke clearing out the water on the bottom of the ocean were two parts, I can think of, that made me audibly chuckle. Such a fun movie.
 
I love how the Jaeger fans seem pretty evenly divided. So many Gipsy fans, so many Striker fans, etc. So cool how much enthusiasm those badass monstrosities create.
All are awesome, but my favorite Jaeger was Cherno, with Crimson Typhoon a close second.
 
I loved it!! It was great from start to finish!! Great mecha action, great kaiju action, great characters!! Love love loved it!!

One thing I would have liked but I understand why it wasn't included was more on the other pilots. I wanted to see more interaction from them!!

I don't think a sequel would be possible. However maybe a prequel or a series of prequels. Like one showing more on how the invasions started. Then another one that shows the heavy losses from the time after Riley loses his bro.

Thus way we can see more pilots plus more mecha action!

Anyways so far my movie of the year!!
 
Loved it. Definitely felt like Del Toro.

Also really liked that there was no kisses or anything in an action movie. They're colleagues, not lovebirds, FOR ONCE
 
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