Tchu-Espresso
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When they gonna activate the 60fps toggle for RDR2?
It's just as simple.
It's just as simple.
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RoboCain
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Because they can't justify charging full price for it.
bitbydeath
Gold Member
They should port it back to the RDR1 version. Frame rate alone won't fix that mess.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
It's. Not. That. Simple.
If it were that simple every single game would have it. It's nowhere near as simple as dropping the resolution to get better performance. Every game is different. All these games are being emulated from their original code. Some games can handle doubling the frame rates, some can't.
Please stop embarrassing yourself by saying it's a simple as flipping a switch.
After you pay $69.99 for the re-release.
Bojji
Gold Member
We won't agree here, people are changing fucking .ini/hex files to run PS4 games previously locked at 30fps (including game logic!) in 60FPS on PS5, nothing more is needed. They are embarrassing publishers and Sony.
If MS/RS wanted it, it would be 60FPS on Xbox. I think we can agree on that.
Yep, just like GTA5.
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Vick
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Guess many folks complaining about the price now either never played this game or completely forgot the fucking immortal masterpiece it is.
You really need less than $20 for what's still Rockstar best overall game by a country mile, one of the very best games of all time and probably the single finest written one, of which timeless gameplay still sport perfect pacing, perfect map size and layout and superior TPS mechanics than its sequel?
It legit pisses all over recent gaming output as a whole from unfathomable heights, so do yourself a favor and buy the thing right now, be reminded of what Rockstar used to be and get an heart-shattering example of where gaming could be now if it wasn't one of the preferred vehicles for ideological diarrhea.
RDR is fucking perfect. And now the port is too.
You really need less than $20 for what's still Rockstar best overall game by a country mile, one of the very best games of all time and probably the single finest written one, of which timeless gameplay still sport perfect pacing, perfect map size and layout and superior TPS mechanics than its sequel?
It legit pisses all over recent gaming output as a whole from unfathomable heights, so do yourself a favor and buy the thing right now, be reminded of what Rockstar used to be and get an heart-shattering example of where gaming could be now if it wasn't one of the preferred vehicles for ideological diarrhea.
RDR is fucking perfect. And now the port is too.
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NinjaBoiX
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Isn't this just an fps boost for the original PS3 code? I remember the original release being pretty bad on PlayStation 3; sub-HD, pop-in, aliasing, sparse foliage, etc.
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YCoCg
Gold Member
No, the "remaster" aka, port, seems to have used the Xbox 360 as a base for both this and the Switch version. The one improvement it had was better AA on PlayStation because you could select FSR2.2 to handle the AA instead of FXAA which the Switch uses (still an improvement over the PS3 original QXAA) and both versions ran at a higher resolution than the Xbox 360 versions (Switch 1080p Docked/720p Portable, PS4 1080p/Pro&5 4k) meaning it now ran close to the Xbox BC version (4k30 with 2xMSAA) and one of the biggest complaints was that the game was still 30fps and priced too high, now they've added 60fps via a patch.
semiconscious
Member
so it only takes half as long to take something out of a drawer now?...
Bojji
Gold Member
RDR 1 has much snappier gameplay than sequel. In 60fps it's probably 2,457(3) faster!
NinjaBoiX
Member
I thought this was in reference to the PS3 version, which was really poor.
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Sleepwalker
Member
Let me know how it does, im gonna get it when the disc version releases.
theclaw135
Banned
I'll believe that when we have a functional 60FPS patch for Final Fantasy X.
Get on it. It's your opportunity to make history!
Bojji
Gold Member
There are only very few games locked to 30fps for some dumb reasons (FFX is one ot them), it probably could be done with fps boost on Xbox since it doesn touch game logic, but it wasn't... right now with FSR3 and Dlss3 it can (probably) be done this way.
RDR was already 60fps on pc emulators so no one can tell me it can't be done for this game.
Duchess
Member
It's going to be interesting to see if the Xbox version gets a re-release or if Rockstar work with MS to do the 60fps boost for the 360 title.
Certainly is interesting that Xbox has been left out in the cold on this one. I suspect things might've gotten a bit political between Rockstar and MS.
Certainly is interesting that Xbox has been left out in the cold on this one. I suspect things might've gotten a bit political between Rockstar and MS.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
PS5 players now who couldn't play it via BC and had to buy the game.
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tommyleelynn
Member
Early and wrong.
Kenneth Haight
Gold Member
I would pay for it if they gave me that option, hopefully at some point and hopefully not full price but damn it will be hard to resist. Some of the most incredible world building ever even with the clunky controls. Can nearly smell the horseshit and fresh mountain air.
It's coming. It was in the MS leaks.
rofif
Banned
It's much more simple than 1 I bet. It's just an ini line. Fuckers will charge 70 for rdr2 ps5 release
Tchu-Espresso
likes mayo on everthing and can't dance
One of the best games of the last decade.
The_Observer
Member
I don't care about 60 fps but it's embarassing that they didn't release it like this. Modern Rockstar is among the industry's biggest jokes.
Kenneth Haight
Gold Member
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
THOSE. ARE. NATIVE. TITLES.
Not emulated ones. 360 hardware is drastically different than X1/XS hardware.
If it were as simple as flipping a switch ALL GAMES WOULD DO IT. You continue to ignore this fact.
This isn't an "I disagree" issue. This is a "you are wrong and don't know what you are talking about" issue. The fact that you are comparing native games being hacked to emulated ones is proof of that. You also ignore that not every single 360 title is emulated on Xbox. Some games likely can't be emulated. Because emulation is not easy. Its one of the most complicated programming jobs in the world.
Is it possible more 360 games can be boosted with a little tinkering? I have little doubt. RDR might be possible to get boosted. I'm not saying it's not, but you saying it hasn't happened because MS hasn't "flipped a switch" is just straight up pure ignorance. In fact, now that the PS4/PS5 version of RDR is superior to the XSX version might incentivize them to go and tinker with it to see if they can get it to run at 60 fps OR we can hope this inspires a complete native version on the XS consoles that will support 60 fps. Either way is a win for gamers.
Xbox also emulates games such that they do not touch the original game code. They have said this. Is it possible that modifying the original code slightly might open even more games to FPS boosts? Sure, but MS is unlikely to do it since that requires a lot more work.
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Kyo
Member
Yep, just mind-boggling. But It's good to see another publisher cave to the pressure to provide a 60 fps experience on PS5. Now do RDR2 next!
Chuck Berry
Gold Member
Popped it on for a bit last night and it was excellent, if anything a bit jarring to see it in that framerate
This isn't a PS4 game. It's X360 code. The difference is huge. The BC team already worked on the game and gave it a full 4K output. If they could make it run at 60fps they would have, because why not? They already went this far.
The 60 fps patches the BC team did were the low hanging fruits, games with good code where doubling the framerate through the emulation layer didn't brake them.
FlyyGOD
Member
I already realized that I was wrong so what was your point?
Duchess
Member
So, the PS5 and Switch are emulating the Xbox 360, at 60fps? That's amazing!
Throttle
Member
60fps is the single most important thing to persuade me to play an older game on PS5. Add native 4K, FSR 2 and good anisotropic filtering on top of that and I couldn't ask for much more.It's the same game running at a mere 60fps, do you think it's going to be a completely new experience?
Nah the new version of RDR has native code that runs on PS4 and Switch, it's not emulated.
The poster listed PS4/XONE games that got 60 fps boosts through the BC layer. The level of complexity between x86 --> x86 and IBM --> x86 is not comparable is what I was getting at.
Maybe MS will get the BC team back together and have them work specifically on achieving higher framerate on this game. But would it be worth it? They'd have leave whatever projects they were already on and come together for 1 game, which won't even sell that much since the people that wanted it bought it when it came back on the store 2 years ago.
Bojji
Gold Member
PS4 games running on PS5 ale also emulated, there is no difference here.
They made RDR1 4K on Xbox One X in 2018. X1X didn't have CPU power to run it above 30, but Series consoles could have do that without issues, MS just didn't do anything with this game in 5 years.
It's a software problem, not hardware. If it can be done then the next problem is "Will it be worth it?". The vast majority of Xbox owners that wanted to play RDR1 have already bought it. How many additional sales will the work done by MS engineers result in?
PS4 is not running under emulation on PS5 which is why some games have graphical issues or a handful of them straight up don't work.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
You're wasting your time. He clearly has no clue what he is talking about.
When you're ignorant to the point that saying PS4 to PS5 emulation is your "proof" that a 360 game emulated on XS (in this case RDR) can automatically be emulated to run at 60 fps with a simple flip of the switch is hilarious.
squidilix
Member
This is not "emulation" for PS4 on PS5. The PS5 just running PS4 code with the latest SKU of PlayStation 4. (some older SKU PS4 game can not working well). The architecture is the same on the biggest case...(at least, PS4 is "simple").
The only difference is the newest PS4 SKU (2020-ish), you can add some options to detect on wich hardware the game runing (PS4, PS4 Pro, PS5) and add some performance (4k output, 60fps patch)
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Kerotan
Member
Yeah 4k 30fps was too hard a sell. This on the other hand even I'm hyped to play it.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Not only that, you can drop the resolution to 1440p to get the framerate to 60 fps. Most people who love 4K wouldn't notice. Even on my 65 inch screen. 1440p with good upscaling and fluid framerate is great.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
I honestly hope this happens. If it does you can, of course, expect R
️ to raise the price on XSX to match.
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️ to raise the price on XSX to match.
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tommyleelynn
Member
I just wanted to see you admit it.
hyperbertha
Member
Definition of nostalgia. It's aged horrendously, the aiming mechanics are laughable, and the story is too simplistic.
MarkMe2525
Banned
I believe you two are saying the same thing.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Then you clearly aren't reading his posts and mine. Bless your heart.
Vick
Member
Nostalgia for a game played in adulthood?
Definition of a shot in the dark.
Feels a whole decade newer and fresher than some free roams released in 2023.
Certain systems and mechanics are basically unmatched to this day.. I can only assume you don't really often replay games from that era if this is your idea of a game "aged horrendously".
Much better than its sequel and every Rockstar game since MP3, though.
Don't know, found it extremely well written, pure, real, honest, earned. Absolutely hilarious as well and, most importantly completely free from an artistic point of view. Which automatically makes it better than 90% of things released nowadays as every single element/character/story beat is only here to make the final product better, to tell a better story.. not to make me roll my eyes at how fucking dystopian our world has quickly become.
Can't honestly picture being presented with these characters, dialogues, situations and overall narrative in 2023 and thinking "nah, too simplistic". I don't buy that for a second.
Plus it means nothing regardless, the more "complex" narrative of RDR2 is a colossal downgrade in many aspects.
The simple fact characters like De Santa, Reyes or MacDougal would never be allowed in the 2018 title, or just comparing that ridiculous cartoon of Sadie Adler in RDR2 to Bonnie MacFarlane, Luisa or Abigail in RDR..
Buy this timeless masterpiece of a videogame folks.
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Luigi Mario
Member
That is surprising to hear. I thought you were a big fan of RDR2, but going by your other post in this thread most of your problems with RDR2 stem from its narrative.
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Vick
Member
I am! Huge, huge fan. Thousands of hours on my Arthur Chapter 2 game file version 1.00 (don't really want to brag but I'm fairly certain is the most complete Chapter 2 save file on the whole fucking planet and not by a small margin).
RDR is simply a much better and consistent product in many ways.