PC Gamer: Paradox pulls Stellaris mod that makes all humans "European"

Said Paradox in a statement to Eurogamer:

“We shipped the game originally with an accurate representation of humans, that is to say diverse in both ethnicity and personality. We embrace the idea that players mod the game to best represent how they want to play, we do NOT however wish to enable discriminatory practices. We appreciate any inappropriate mods being brought to our attention and will take them down where necessary, we also encourage players to make use of the flagging function provided by Valve where needed.”

I'd easily classify the black only mod as discriminatory just like the white one.
How about this:

It wasn't the mod itself that led to its removal, though, but a change to its description that was made after it was posted. “We saw the mod, thought it wasn't in very good taste, but let it remain. Then the creator of the mod decided to update the description of the mod to promote an 'agenda' not related to computer games at all, and this was being clearly displayed on our product page,” Community Manager Paradoxal Bear wrote on Reddit. “We decided it was a step too far and removed it.”

From the OP. Be honest, did you read it at all?
 
Said Paradox in a statement to Eurogamer:

“We shipped the game originally with an accurate representation of humans, that is to say diverse in both ethnicity and personality. We embrace the idea that players mod the game to best represent how they want to play, we do NOT however wish to enable discriminatory practices. We appreciate any inappropriate mods being brought to our attention and will take them down where necessary, we also encourage players to make use of the flagging function provided by Valve where needed.”

I'd easily classify the black only mod as discriminatory just like the white one.
There is still a white-only mod (https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=688760542&searchtext=one+race) and an asian-only mod in addition to the black-only mod. Read the thread (or even just the OP). The mod wasn't removed simply because of its function.
 
Right. Because "a few redditors" think that triggered it it must be true? I'd take official statements over hearsay of random internet skeleton's any day, but that's just me.
It wasn't the mod itself that led to its removal, though, but a change to its description that was made after it was posted. “We saw the mod, thought it wasn't in very good taste, but let it remain. Then the creator of the mod decided to update the description of the mod to promote an 'agenda' not related to computer games at all, and this was being clearly displayed on our product page,” Community Manager Paradoxal Bear wrote on Reddit. “We decided it was a step too far and removed it.”
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Last time i played one of their games (unmodded), i expelled jews from my realm and confiscated their gold.


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Right. Because "a few redditors" think that triggered it it must be true? I'd take official statements over hearsay of random internet SJW's any day, but that's just me.

.... a paradox staff member gave the follow-up explanation that has been quoted.

Reiterating:

It wasn't the mod itself that led to its removal, though, but a change to its description that was made after it was posted. “We saw the mod, thought it wasn't in very good taste, but let it remain. Then the creator of the mod decided to update the description of the mod to promote an 'agenda' not related to computer games at all, and this was being clearly displayed on our product page,” Community Manager Paradoxal Bear wrote on Reddit. “We decided it was a step too far and removed it.”
 
Right. Because "a few redditors" think that triggered it it must be true? I'd take official statements over hearsay of random internet SJW's any day, but that's just me.
This part:
“We saw the mod, thought it wasn't in very good taste, but let it remain. Then the creator of the mod decided to update the description of the mod to promote an 'agenda' not related to computer games at all, and this was being clearly displayed on our product page,”

..is not by some random redditor. That's a community manager from Paradox.

Do you not think it's plausible that the redditors are probably correct that it was the update of the description? What else do you think it might be? Are they just being dirty SJWs?
 
Yet their other statement said anything discriminatory would be removed from the workshop. Yet, the other race mods remain. I'm not debating why it was removed, I'm saying that there should be no race mods allowed whatsoever in accordance with their statements.
 
Yet their other statement said anything discriminatory would be removed from the workshop. Yet, the other race mods remain. I'm not debating why it was removed, I'm saying that there should be no race mods allowed whatsoever in accordance with their statements.
I don't really think it's that big of a deal. It is a role playing game. Someone may want to make a game world where the chinese get out and start colonizing planets. That's not racism.

Now if you start leaving weird racism sounding comments in the description and linking to a weird agenda YouTube page then your going over the line.
 
Yet their other statement said anything discriminatory would be removed from the workshop. Yet, the other race mods remain. I'm not debating why it was removed, I'm saying that there should be no race mods allowed whatsoever in accordance with their statements.

There are still white only mods available, as well as a mod that removes africans while leaving whites and asians. They do not have a blanket policy that you are not allowed to create custom versions of humanities that only have one of the available phenotypes, rather, this mod specifically was removed, for the stated reasons.

If you want to see their previous tackling of this issue when it happened a week or so back, see this thread on their official forum. In there, they stated more or less that there are "role playing" reasons one might want a mod.

If you make the same mod but state in the description that the intent of the mod is to make you happy because you don't like black people, then the same mod - functionally identical - would be deleted. If you posted the exact same mod with a link to your thinly veiled racist tirade against Muslim immigration into Europe, as the person in the OP's mod did, you will have your mod removed.

Edit: Goddamnit other mod
 
Yet their other statement said anything discriminatory would be removed from the workshop. Yet, the other race mods remain. I'm not debating why it was removed, I'm saying that there should be no race mods allowed whatsoever in accordance with their statements.
You got banned already (and I think anyone looking at your posts understands why, though you probably refuse to do that instead of looking at the mirror), but I'll reply anyway.

We embrace the idea that players mod the game to best represent how they want to play, we do NOT however wish to enable discriminatory practices
It says discriminatory practices. The mod isn't doing discriminatory practices in itself necessarily, but how the creator went on about most certainly was discriminatory.
 
Yet their other statement said anything discriminatory would be removed from the workshop. Yet, the other race mods remain. I'm not debating why it was removed, I'm saying that there should be no race mods allowed whatsoever in accordance with their statements.

Jesus. One more time.

It wasn't the mod itself that led to its removal, though, but a change to its description that was made after it was posted

It wasn't the mod itself that led to its removal

It wasn't the mod
 
Yet their other statement said anything discriminatory would be removed from the workshop. Yet, the other race mods remain. I'm not debating why it was removed, I'm saying that there should be no race mods allowed whatsoever in accordance with their statements.
I'm not sure what's scarier, open racists, or racists that hide under the guise of equality.
 
I'm not sure what's scarier, open racists, or racists that hide under the guise of equality.
Like I'm sure that there are people out there that want to roleplay a future where white people wiped out all the other races and then took their crusade to space. But let's be honest those people are a tiny minority.
 
The mod was ok. The description was not. You can be a racist make it known, just please don't put it into words. That's the offensive part.
 
The mod was ok. The description was not. You can be a racist make it known, just please don't put it into words. That's the offensive part.

There are legitimate non-racist reasons to use a one-human-race mod, since this developer's games are all about "what-if" scenarios. Even their otherwise historically-accurate medieval Europe game has an official expansion that enables the Aztecs to invade Europe. The guy in question just so happened to make it clear that his mod existed for racist purposes.
 
Ironically, the majority of humanity will probably all be a mix of brown skin tones and Asian ancestry by the time we discover faster than light travel.
 
Same guy put the same mod back up with the following description instead:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=690928807&searchtext=European

DISCLAIMER:
Well hello all! Hasn't this been a wild ride of lies and slander?

Here is the original mod by the original mod creator (Lord Xel / Progeny of Europe)

This is really just being uploaded as an experiment to test how far Paradox will lie about banning my other mod.

So here are the 'rules' imposed by PARADOX:
1) I can't mention a certain non-offensive commonly used word
2) I can't link to my YouTube Channel - Paradox specifically slandered it.
3) NO COMMENTS THAT ARE EVEN REMOTELY TRIGGERRING FOR SWEDES

Please, any comments that will trigger Paradox and send them into an irrational fit of lies will be removed.


These are the three "reasons" why my other mod was taken down - so lets enforce them, eh?

If you are going to leave a comment, talk as though you are talking to the Stasi.

Since Paradox never contacted me and only gave conflicting reports to gaming media about why they removed my mod, I can only go off of what they said. If we abide by these new rules that they just made up we should be able to prevent it getting taken down.

What this mod does:
Simply makes humans Europeans and adds a name list for European names.

Use it as a mod resource, everyone is free to use and reupload to your hearts content.
Make modding freedom great again.


*sigh* To top it all off he ended by showing he's a Trump supporter.
 
Triggering for Swedes, lul. Someone is really butthurt - one might even say triggered - by that reddit slapfight between /r/the_donald and /r/sweden. /r/sweden even won that by drowning them in shitposts and memes.
 
Good for Paradox. Do those in this thread that are upset about this also believe that all non white characters in games are added as diversity pandering?
 

The author did not do their homework.
They claim that it was Paradox who locked the discussion on /r/Stellaris, but /r/Stellaris is a community run subreddit. Paradox employees occasionally post to this subreddit, but they do not control it. Consequently, the authors plea for Paradox to not "ignore the problem and avoid further controversy on your subreddit" is just nonsensical.
 
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