Mid range gaming pc suggestions gaf?
i dont need to go above 1080 or max everything out.
You want this thread here, my friend. You are certainly on the right track.
Mid range gaming pc suggestions gaf?
i dont need to go above 1080 or max everything out.
Mid range gaming pc suggestions gaf?
i dont need to go above 1080 or max everything out.
im thinking (970+i5 4690k)
what else do i pair it with.
and is the jump to a r9 390 worth it considering the price difference?
and exactly how do you decide the motherboard?any criterias?
can someone point me to something cheap?
sticking to 8gb ram and will upgrade that if necessary.
not looking for too much quality, just something thats gives the best value for money and lasts a bit.
Mid range gaming pc suggestions gaf?
i dont need to go above 1080 or max everything out.
im thinking (970+i5 4690k)
what else do i pair it with.
and is the jump to a r9 390 worth it considering the price difference?
and exactly how do you decide the motherboard?any criterias?
can someone point me to something cheap?
sticking to 8gb ram and will upgrade that if necessary.
not looking for too much quality, just something thats gives the best value for money and lasts a bit.
You want this thread here, my friend. You are certainly on the right track.
Well, the quote you posted was about "why not both". I'm just saying people can enjoy a lot of the great games on PC without any hassle or cost, and should give it a try. I think the idea that the PC has to be equivalent or stronger than consoles is confusing a lot of people to the fact many, many games don't have very high requirements at all!I'm not pretending that at all - and I agree with you - but that point is irrelevant to this argument. This argument is defined by comparing PCs directly with consoles (and, by implication and relevance, current-gen consoles). It's not a generic 'what can I game with' discussion. By default, ITT, the PCs under discussion are scaled up to the level of consoles. If people want to play only 2D/older/indie games on their lower-end PC, or buy one of those, then all the power to them - but that factor doesn't have a place here.
From my experience, a console-matching gaming PC was still going to cost me £400-500. More than a new console after recent price drops. I know this because I built a PC last month, for the first time in 10 years. This was custom-building, too.
Add in the whole fucking headache of building the thing - which took 9 hours for me, first time - and it is not a worthwhile option. If I'm going to buy a PC I'm going to go for the highest benchmark to make that building time (and the purchase) as worthwhile as possible.
It doesn't seem confined to tiny vocal minority to me.What exactly are you trying to say?
I think the idea that the PC has to be equivalent or stronger than consoles is confusing a lot of people to the fact many, many games don't have very high requirements at all!.
It doesn't seem confined to tiny vocal minority to me.
It doesn't seem confined to tiny vocal minority to me.
This is the only argument about it that needs to happen:
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It doesn't seem confined to tiny vocal minority to me.
How do we know it's not representative?
I honestly don't think I'm missing out on anything by avoiding a PC nowerdays. The very best indies and most mainstream invariably find their way to consoles.
Yes there's the long term value proposition and power benefit of PC gaming, but I'd much rather have access to everything more or less.
Bloodborne and Horizon 2 are 2 of my favourite games this gen and both are exclusive so I'd have missed out on these. And that's not even counting the exclusive heavy Wii U
(I still have a modest laptop for Football Manager but don't consider it a gaming device outside of that)
That and avoiding pc is a contradiction.
Bloodborne and Horizon 2 are 2 of my favourite games this gen and both are exclusive so I'd have missed out on these. And that's not even counting the exclusive heavy Wii U
That and avoiding pc is a contradiction.
It's not, yes some stuff comes over a year later but it still arrives (Rogue Legacy, Swapper, Divinity Original Sin)
Of course I'll miss some stuff but I'm confident most will find its way to console in time.
Contradiction you say? Talk about all the best indies coming to consoles, but they don't have THE BEST INDIE.
It's not, yes some stuff comes over a year later but it still arrives (Rogue Legacy, Swapper, Divinity Original Sin)
Of course I'll miss some stuff but I'm confident most will find its way to console in time.
I presume you mean Undertale, but in 18 months they probably will.
Anyway don't want to get into an argument, just relaying my own flawed thought process.
If you reach a specific age you're automatically done with PC gaming. It is too much hassle for a family man to waste time with driver updates, get you settings right, upgrade your hardware and so on just to play some games.
How did you arrive at the bolded, and what age is that? I'm a 37 year old family man that just had a PC built back in March, and I've spent very little time tinkering with settings. In fact my experience so far has been incredibly smooth. The great thing is whether you just want simple plug and play, or like to tinker, the option is there to make the experience your own. I thought the same thing 'ehhh, can't be bothered with all the stuff that comes with PC gaming.' Till I got into it, now I'm struggling to find a good reason to buy either of the current consoles( asides from a Wii U, which I bought early 2013), as the PC perfectly fits my current gaming needs.
I've played via steam a variety of indies and AAA titles, and other than the initial installation and setting the desired video quality levels, my experience has been as 'plug and play' as the the more recent consoles, considering all the updates they go through. I can't recall the last time I turned on either, and got into a game without *something* needing to be updated.
Contradiction you say? Talk about all the best indies coming to consoles, but they don't have THE BEST INDIE.
You can't even shower with your dad on consoles. Why bother?
What Hektor means is that on PC you have access to a vast library of games spanning more than 30 years, something you can't get on any console. Sure, there are specific emulated games on certain consoles, like Nintendo's VC or Sony's PS1/2 Classics, but they don't feature the entire catalog of those old platforms.It's not, yes some stuff comes over a year later but it still arrives (Rogue Legacy, Swapper, Divinity Original Sin)
Of course I'll miss some stuff but I'm confident most will find its way to console in time.
Again, can we stop pretending High-end PC gaming is the only sort of gaming on PC?
Most people can enjoy TONS of PC game with any PC they have at their home.
You can be both a console and PC gamer with no extra expense. PC gaming scales not just upwards, but downwards as well. You can play plenty of indies and "mid-tier" titles on the hardware most people have at home. This is also PC gaming, Y'know.
Somehow, this thread became a massive circlejerk of PC elitists, why am I not surprised.
Yes there's the long term value proposition and power benefit of PC gaming, but I'd much rather have access to everything more or less.
Somehow, this thread became a massive circlejerk of PC elitists, why am I not surprised.
False actually. As developers prefer to develop for PC over console by quite a lot. From my perspective, this is an objective fact.It's easier on console. From my perspective, that's an objective outcome. Clearly PC is the better platform in terms of performance and freedom, because the upper ceiling is massive, but in terms of development, I think it's a given that console is easier.
I personally dig consoles more but more power to pc gamers.
I am trying not to put my bias into this thread as much as trying to get more responses and bolster the tree i linked too. Ultimately it is all preference, but i find the full argument layout fascinating, the other stuff on website is cool.
Its crazy how many people who completely failed to see the point of this thread and then proceeded to do exactly what the tree mocks.Somehow, this thread became a massive circlejerk of PC elitists, why am I not surprised.
The truth is somewhere in between, I'm saying it may be a lot higher than GAFers downplay it to be.So what you are saying is PC elitists make up the majority of PC gamers.
Ok, buddy.
PC definitely has more power.
The problem as I see it is some people like to have the superiority argument. The issue with this is that they omit some very important factors when gauging superiority.
A PC comes with greater performance but the tradeoff is a required attention to the parts that make up the whole.
A console, though less performing than a PC yet still very adequate, allows a user to not concern themselves with the minor details and earns them the ability to plug and play.
These options cover most of the people that have one major thing in common, a love of gaming. We should be content that we have options at all. When you say your option is better than the other, you are denying the respect to understand that one persons situation may be very different than yours and that they may have found the option that was right for them. We should all be so lucky.
So whether you want to keep it simple, or you want to get down and dirty, there is an option for you. Your opinion needs no defending.
The last thing that tree needs is more responses. It's huge. Few people will see this and actually read it.
As for the best reason to go PC over console? For me, I'd say the best reason is flexibility. How well a game runs (assuming no technical faults) is entirely up to you and your wallet. You want the game to run at 4k 120fps, Well, you can but it's going to cost you. At the opposite end, if you don't care you can get a fairly cheap laptop and run the game bare minimum for far less. Options.
The truth is somewhere in between, I'm saying it may be a lot higher than GAFers downplay it to be.
His post was barely an exaggerstion. There was a guy earlier going on about the benefits of lower framerates and how high framerates aren't an objective improvement because he gets motion sickness from it.