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[Spectral Glider]

Damn, I'm pretty surprised the NCAA hit them as hard as they did. I do think it's warranted, but just never thought they would go through with the punishment. Never thought they would knock away those wins either.

 

[Kabuki Quantum Lover]

My Facebook is exploding with comments. A good chunk of my friends went to PSU. Every so often I find myself getting caught in the "come on, these punishments are going too far" then I think what if one of the victims were my brother, cousin or son and my mind changes.

Reading the second paragraph in this section of Sandusky's Wikipedia entry would lead me to believe the punishment didn't go far enough. However, as it stands, it's enough to punch the Penn State culture right in the face.

 

[Herpes Reasons]

that's the punishment?
that's it?
i would've figured the death penalty.
USC gets 30 lost scholarships for 3 years for giving of gifts.
and Penn state lose 40 for 4 years?
and that $60 million in penalty, isn't that like what penn state makes in a year?

 

[giga]

 

[GoldenEye 007]

that's the punishment?
that's it?
i would've figured the death penalty.
USC gets 30 lost scholarships for 3 years for giving of gifts.
and Penn state lose 40 for 4 years?
and that $60 million in penalty, isn't that like what penn state makes in a year?

They won't be back at the full 85-man roster until 2020.

65 total scholarships and taking on only 15 a year for four years with current players being able to go where they want without penalty will crush just about any program.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

that's the punishment?
that's it?
i would've figured the death penalty.
USC gets 30 lost scholarships for 3 years for giving of gifts.
and Penn state lose 40 for 4 years?
and that $60 million in penalty, isn't that like what penn state makes in a year?

University of Sexual Ballers stay breaking that bread. Penn St. don't have that advantage.

 

[Forever]

With successful criminal proceedings against the top brass responsible, I think this ugly episode will have received as much justice as could have been hoped for.

It's a damn shame that Paterno did not live to see this day and face the music in court.

 

[Babalu.]

I'm ok with the punishment handed out. I would have been more OK with the death penalty. But people gotta make their money right?

 

[BertramCooper]

I guess this's the video with the reactions:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=We64JB5mYo0

Oh, to be a fly on the wall of that team meeting.

 

[ToxicAdam]

This has been a pretty satisfying judgement against Penn State. It's a shame the same kind of culpability wasn't doled out to the Catholic Church, but maybe this example could have a similar reach.

 

[ElRenoRaven]

http://i.imgur.com/EQJUO.png[IMG][/QUOTE]

ROFLMAO. That's hilarious and so is the dumbass that's all pissed about it. Some people really are such blind sheep.

 

[freenudemacusers]

I guess this's the video with the reactions:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=We64JB5mYo0

You'd think they were listening to the freeh report

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Oh, to be a fly on the wall of that team meeting.

"HOw much money is it gonna take for you guys to stay?"

 

[Cyan]

Sorry for the dumb question but as a student who's tight on money, will this increase tuition for students by a lot?

Shouldn't. I would expect this to come out of the endowment and/or be covered by rich alumni.

NCAA has announced they're looking at waiving scholarship limits on schools accepting PSU transfers.

Open season.

Open season indeed. With this and waiving the contact rules, I expect there'll be a good few transfers. Don't think it'll be nearly as destructive as some people are saying, though.

Does anyone in this thread actually follow college football?

I've been wondering this for a while.

 

[bryehn]

I was wondering...if they're erasing the wins, shouldn't they erase the losses too?

 

[ConfusingJazz]

Oh, to be a fly on the wall of that team meeting.

The first 15 minutes would be the coaches trying to tell players to turn off their cell phones.

 

[Mammoth Jones]

 

[Ninja Scooter]

They mentioned at the radio that schools taking on Penn St. transfers can go above their scholarship limits...wonder if this applies to USC too?

 

[Cyan]

Supposedly transfers will only be without penalty if within conference.

You sure? Usually it's the other way around.

Delany says presidents leaning toward allowing Penn State players to transfer within conference with no penalty.

That's what some college beat writer put on twitter

Oh, I see. Yeah, that's just confirming that they'll also be allowed to transfer in-conference. USC's players weren't.

 

[hoos30]

Oh, to be a fly on the wall of that team meeting.

No one is paying attention...the players are all texting Urban Meyer.

 

[hoos30]

Ouch. Cold-blooded, man.

 

[bjb]

Ice cold lol

 

[eznark]

No one is paying attention...the players are all texting Urban Meyer their paypall info

.

 

[Vermillion]

Now that I've seen the jokes that many times, it's that much less funny

 

[mre]

.

Paypal? Urban deals in bitcoins, brah.

 

[eznark]

Paypal? Urban deals in bitcoins, brah.

ohgodiwantthattobetruesobadly

 

[David H Wong]

Enjoy some reactions from Penn state fans and alums:

http://bwi.rivals.com/forum.asp?fid=36

Subject lines include "Devastated" and "Heartsick" and "Dear God, what will we do?"

Those are all in reference to the prospect of Penn State losing football games. Not the child rape.

 

[mre]

ohgodiwantthattobetruesobadly

It's the best way to facilitate his players' anonymous purchase of "prescribed herbal medication" from the silk road.

 

[ElectricBlanketFire]

For those saying it's unfair to lump all Penn Staters together, they need to stop doing stuff like this:

Over 5,000 affiliated with Penn State don't believe the Freeh Report.

 

[Cyan]

ohgodiwantthattobetruesobadly

Totally is, Urban Meyer is always leading the way and innovating in college football.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

flawless.

 

[hoos30]

Desmond Howard:
“The one point that people continue to make that really leaves a bad taste in my mouth, is about the players and how the players should have to pay the price for what happened, as if they don’t have a choice. You read some tweets and some messages and people say, ‘Hey, remember the victims.’ Well, I challenge you to remember the victims, but think about the victims and think about how they were victimized. Think about what they had to go through, and this burly coach was victimizing them. Add some substance to that symbolism and they didn’t have a choice. Those damn victims didn’t have a choice. Why? Because of the culture at Penn State University, particularly in the football department. Now these football players today at Penn State, they have a choice. If you grew up loving Penn State Nittany Lions football and always wanted to play for Penn State, guess what? You can stay. You can represent Penn State and wear that uniform proudly and you’ll have a chance to get a degree from Penn State University, but, if you like to play in the post-season and with all of the luxuries that come along with that sort of opportunity, then you can transfer out today and go to another university and live out those dreams. The players today have a choice. The damn victims didn’t.”

And the people say, "Amen!".

 

[MThanded]

If I see a recycled library joke again. Seriously people have been making that joke for a while now.

 

[Jarmel]

I don't watch football nor been following the trial closely but I do think the vacating seems unfair primarily to the regular players who went out there and won. Does this affect their records too?

 

[Ninja Scooter]

I don't watch football nor been following the trial closely but I do think the vacating seems unfair primarily to the regular players who went out there and won. Does this affect their records too?

Yes. All the wins from 1998 until last season basically never happened. Evan Royster, currently with the Redskins, who played at Penn St. during that time, tweeted that technically while he was at Penn St. he never won a single game now.

 

[Jarmel]

Yes. All the wins from 1998 until last season basically never happened. Evan Royster, currently with the Redskins, who played at Penn St. during that time, tweeted that technically while he was at Penn St. he never won a single game now.

That's pretty fucking horrible.

 

[MThanded]

That's pretty fucking horrible.

Yeah harboring pedophiles is horrible too. Sad to see it come to this.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

That's pretty fucking horrible.

So is raping little kids and not doing anything about it.

There are innocent players from USC that had to vacate a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP, and it wasn't because Reggie Bush was raping kids, it's because Reggie Bush's parents took a free house from some scummy wannabe agent without anyone at the school knowing. Tough shit.

Sadly it's the only way the NCAA could have any actual authority over schools. If any school can just cheat and fire everyone responsible with no repercussions, they would all do it.

 

[ElectricBlanketFire]

I don't watch football nor been following the trial closely but I do think the vacating seems unfair primarily to the regular players who went out there and won. Does this affect their records too?

Here's the deal: When you make selfish choices as those involved did, it affects the innocent.

That's what makes it a selfish choice.

 

[Jarmel]

So is raping little kids and not doing anything about it.

There are innocent players from USC that had to vacate a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP, and it wasn't because Reggie Bush was raping kids, it's because Reggie Bush's parents took a free house from some scummy wannabe agent without anyone at the school knowing. Tough shit.

What did the players have to do with any of it? Did they know at all?

I could give a shit about the coach as he knew but did the players have any knowledge?

 

[hoos30]

I don't watch football nor been following the trial closely but I do think the vacating seems unfair primarily to the regular players who went out there and won. Does this affect their records too?

It's also meaningless. Players played the game, they know who won or lost.

Vacating the games is punishment for the Paterno estate only; they can't say they are #1 anymore, goodbye.

 

[Cyan]

I don't watch football nor been following the trial closely but I do think the vacating seems unfair primarily to the regular players who went out there and won. Does this affect their records too?

Seriously? Of all the "but this only hurts unrelated person x!" statements I've heard so far, this takes the cake. Do you really think they give a shit?

This punishment is handed down all the time and people barely care. The only one affected here is JoePa, because it takes away the wins record. And he's hardly likely to care about it either.

 

[mre]

Seriously? Of all the "but this only hurts unrelated person x!" statements I've heard so far, this takes the cake. Do you really think they give a shit?

This punishment is handed down all the time and people barely care. The only one affected here is JoePa, because it takes away the wins record. And he's hardly likely to care about it either.

Let's bust out our ouiji boards and ask him!

 

[hoos30]

#Paterno family said to be issuing statement shortly. It may take time to get here from their home planet.

Also cold-blooded. They (need) to sit somewhere and be quiet.

 

[ElectricBlanketFire]

Also cold-blooded. They to sit somewhere and be quiet.

Good to see another B&B fan here.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

What did the players have to do with any of it? Did they know at all?

They may not have gone to the school, had they known. For the players, well hell man...they got a free education, free room & board (football player food; very different from regular student cafeteria food), and training that prepared them for life after football...and for a few, football at the next level.

They can cry about the wins and losses if they want, but the players got plenty out of it. If they want to be mad, they should be mad at JoePa for stealing their opportunity to make a fully informed choice about the school they attended.

 

[Jarmel]

It's also meaningless. Players played the game, they know who won or lost.

Vacating the games is punishment for the Paterno estate only; they can't say they are #1 anymore, goodbye.

I'm assuming they're still allowed the stats from the games though? Like TDs and whatnot.

 

[eznark]

I'm assuming they're still allowed the stats from the games though? Like TDs and whatnot.

What difference could it possibly make one way or the other?

 

[Forever]

Enjoy some reactions from Penn state fans and alums:

http://bwi.rivals.com/forum.asp?fid=36

Subject lines include "Devastated" and "Heartsick" and "Dear God, what will we do?"

Those are all in reference to the prospect of Penn State losing football games. Not the child rape.

And that is the problem, isn't it? I wonder if the culture there will change at all in four years.

 

[CrazyDogg77]

That's pretty fucking horrible.

It's not really that horrible.