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Penn State football pedophilia thread (UPDATE: NCAA sanctions handed down)
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Ghost_Protocol
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Stupid talk show radio hosts being stupid. Stop shouting over people and let them fucking speak.
Exactly. I sure didn't forget about Sandusky. I don't hate JoePa I just think he, at the very least, made a very very terrible mistake. Whether he's responsible for more, well those answers may come out of a civil suit.Salazar said:
JoePa was the focus this week for good reason. Look how long it took to even hear from the uni. Not to mention he's an icon.
Dreams-Visions
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Honestly? I wish I could disagree and cuss you out for saying it.Sanjuro Tsubaki said:
But you know what? I'd bet my left nut that if PSUs hardcore fans had their way, this scandal probably wouldn't break until the off-season. But if it waited a few more months, it risks the possibility of another boy being abused.
I think some (many?) would take that risk.
I think more focus should be on the law enforcement than on the school.C Jones said:
The fact that they knew about this for 10 years and did nothing means they should all be fired along with Joe Pa and everyone @ Penn State. More than even the school I am mad at whoever knew the details about the allegations in the police department and DAs office and did nothing for so long. We talk about Penn State's responsibility, and they definitely are at fault, but the bigger failure was with the police to me.
bigtroyjon
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Police were never notified about the 02 incident and fully investigated the 98 incident that the DA decided not to prosecute.bionic77 said:
Pardon the ignorance, but as a non-America:
Why is this story receiving so much attention and causing riots? Not trying to downplay the suffering of the children, but I remember when even bigger figures were charged with these kinds of charges, and the reaction wasn't as heated. I guess the sport is realllllly big.
Just curious.
Why is this story receiving so much attention and causing riots? Not trying to downplay the suffering of the children, but I remember when even bigger figures were charged with these kinds of charges, and the reaction wasn't as heated. I guess the sport is realllllly big.
Just curious.
bionic77 said:
They didnt just dropped the case. The authorities told victim mom not to talk to the media after the case was dropped. As per the DA he was found missing with his HDD of his computer in the bottom of the lake. But that was couple of years after.
Sandusky was bigger than the law. There was no question about it. MCQ knew it like everyone within that community. Only reason I can think of why he didnt go to the cops on his own.
LegendofJoe
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Sharp said:
Not really. He was condescending, rude, and in general being an asshole from the moment the discussion began. I don't see how any rational, respectful person could approve of the 'discussion' that radio host attempted to have with that girl.
Sports is a huge part of it but it is more than that. Joe Paterno is the head coach of a big state school in Pennsylvania and was successful (many years ago), but more than his success he had a reputation of being a really legitimately great person. College football in the US is kind of bullshit in a lot of ways and Paterno was supposed to be one of the good guys who did things "the right way". He was also really involved in the school, donated a shit load of money and was a real humanitarian in general.Kraftwerk said:
The guy was a hero to a lot of people and this crime is so heinous that for him to be associated with it in any way was too much for some people to handle.
That and there are just some douchebags who just care too much about college football.
Yeah I agree.. after a few minutes the only words she got in were "I understand.." before he cut her off again and again just saying the same thing. I would've hung up a long time ago.. likely after he started attacking my family.LegendofJoe said:
Granted, she is wrong, and the fact she thinks Paterno should coach on Saturday is ridiculous. But.. let her be 'stupid' and move on. Doesn't make him more of a man or legitimate radio host by attacking her.
bionic77 said:
Yup.
http://www.wpxi.com/news/29715888/detail.html
The article states that the hard drive was damaged, but the wikipedia and this scan from the Pittsburgh Post Gazette story says that the hard drive was actually missing.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?i...BAJ&pg=5334,210533&dq=ray+gricar+laptop&hl=en
LegendofJoe
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Salazar said:
It did, but not in the manner he went about it.
Homeboyd said:
He crossed the line when he started belittling her because of her age and then jumped way over it when he started insulting her family. If I was his boss I would have sent him home for the day.
Fenderputty
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Kraftwerk said:
A mix of things. College sports produces fanatical people. Football is huge. The school is highly regarded and so was its coach. The crime is atrocious and the cover up / lack of care to follow up is shocking and grotesque. Its sort of a perfect storm.
If we could only somehow infuse politics into this ...
TheChewyWaffles
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Ghost_Protocol said:
I'd shout at someone that stupid, too.
Sirpopopop
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Fenderputty said:
JoePa is a big Republican supporter.
The Obama administration is now investigating Penn State.
Clearly it's a case of Democrats trying to keep a good Republican down.
Dude Abides
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Salaadin said:
We don't know why the investigation was dropped.
We do know that two police officers and a victim's mother heard what was essentially a confession from Sandusky, so whatever the reason was, lack of evidence was probably not it.
The fact the students were rioting in the street because Paterno was fired is unbelievable. They should've been rioting in the streets with torches and pitchforks for the body of Sandusky. Yeah, Paterno fucked up... badly. And he'll pay for it (hopefully much worse than he already has), but I hate that 99% of the focus is on him because of his reputation and legendary status as a college football coach.
The focus should be on that scum who committed the acts. Everyone in this country should be on a witch-hunt for this man and he should be hiding in fear knowing that on every channel on every American's tv, in every Americans home, his face is being shown next to the charges piling up against him. Put that son of a bitch in the spotlight. Deal with everyone else as they should be dealt with.
The focus should be on that scum who committed the acts. Everyone in this country should be on a witch-hunt for this man and he should be hiding in fear knowing that on every channel on every American's tv, in every Americans home, his face is being shown next to the charges piling up against him. Put that son of a bitch in the spotlight. Deal with everyone else as they should be dealt with.
Sirpopopop
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Wonder if the ex-DA was part of Sandusky's sex ring?
the dude that is missing.. .is no one really caring about that at all.. or am I missing something... there is going to be so much stuff coming up that will make our heads spin and I am sure there are some people out there right now losing sleep not knowing when their name is going to come up and make the news.
College identification is also very important in the US, especially for people that went to schools large enough to have a national name and network.Kraftwerk said:
For example I used to work for a company where the regional leader - a guy who managed hundreds of people and made millions of dollars a year, and was decades out of school - would always come around and talk college rivalries with the staff as his way of connecting with his underlings. This kind of thing is pretty common.
Fenderputty
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Sirpopopop said:
Add in a little religious conspiracy and the country would explode.
lazybones18
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Sirpopopop said:
that wouldn't surprise me, but I do think it's highly unlikely
JasonUresti
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I'm hoping the rumors of a large scale sandusky operated sex ring are not true, but I'm feeling they probably are.
A guy like Sandusky, who has been operating programs working with kids since the 70's, and was as relatively indiscreet about his sexual abuse as him, doesn't go unnoticed for decades in that community and program.
People, powerful people, knew about Sandusky and what he was. There is little reason to protect Sandusky, unless some of those people were part of the whole vile operation.
I feel pity for those poor, misguided kids rioting on campus. In the years to come, as all the facts come out, and as they themselves start to have children, it will come to their minds that protecting an old man's legacy, winning football games, having something to puff your chest up about during the weekend, doesn't mean anything when put against children being sexually abused by people who were supposed to help and look out for them.
A guy like Sandusky, who has been operating programs working with kids since the 70's, and was as relatively indiscreet about his sexual abuse as him, doesn't go unnoticed for decades in that community and program.
People, powerful people, knew about Sandusky and what he was. There is little reason to protect Sandusky, unless some of those people were part of the whole vile operation.
I feel pity for those poor, misguided kids rioting on campus. In the years to come, as all the facts come out, and as they themselves start to have children, it will come to their minds that protecting an old man's legacy, winning football games, having something to puff your chest up about during the weekend, doesn't mean anything when put against children being sexually abused by people who were supposed to help and look out for them.
wonderkins
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This rabbit hole just keeps getting deeper:
link: Here's how Penn State must fix its football culture.Lester Munson said:
SouthernDragon
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2_2=4
But 2 and 2 are different! How could you say they are 4? We don't even know if they got together! How can you jump to conclusions?
But 2 and 2 are different! How could you say they are 4? We don't even know if they got together! How can you jump to conclusions?
adversesolutions
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SO incidentally, where is Sandusky now? He's out on bond right?
SolidSnakex
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Homeboyd said:
Actually, he isn't hiding. Someone posted an interview earlier with a radio host interviewing a journalism student and she said that Sandusky was seen working out at a local gym and going on a shopping spree.
SolidSnakex
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Homeboyd said:
I guess it's easier for him since so many people are upset at the the media for going after Joe Pa instead of being upset that a child rapist was able to prey on their children for well over 10 years.
BigJonsson
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lol @ students rioting........like wtf
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