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Persona 4 |OT|
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MegaKungFuRadio
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Kadey said:
I only play with a Persona if I think it's pretty. Well, that and Belpheggor, because he's sitting on a toilet.
Ok, this is my first real time in the persona world, I just bought it and should get it in the mail shortly. What should I expect? I played some of the first one and didn't like it but that was a long time ago. Also SO4 is coming out soon >< I think I have alot of gaming to do 
Adam Prime
hates soccer, is Mexican
MotherFan said:Ok, this is my first real time in the persona world, I just bought it and should get it in the mail shortly. What should I expect? I played some of the first one and didn't like it but that was a long time ago. Also SO4 is coming out soon >< I think I have alot of gaming to do
Well, hopefully you read up on the game and should know what to expect by now. The "social sim" aspect of the game as well as the battle system. The game has a very "Pokemon"-ish type feel to it with changing your Persona and how it relates to your character's stats.
Expect it to be a LONG game, with really smart and witty dialog and writing. One of the best RPGs I've ever played, but it's definitely not for everybody. I would say though, this game is way more geared towards a broader audience than any other SMT game or Persona 3 was.
GotchaForce
Member
Adam Prime said:
Thanks! Here's another noob question: it says if you don't save someone by the time the fog comes in you go back a week. You don't lose anything though do you? Like exp, items, personas ect gained in the week before?
Adam Prime
hates soccer, is Mexican
robut said:
You don't get to keep everything that you gained the week prior; you start with what you had a week out. So don't count out on keeping your things.
Really saving people from the fog should never be a problem. For the first two dungeons I saved the person in two days, mostly because of SP problems. But once I got the S.Link Up and have enough cash, I was able to complete every dungeon from 3 to the end of the game in one run. You just have to take your time, and re-run old dungeons for money so you can heal via SP.
More n00b tips: If you're having problems advancing further in dungeons, time to start Fusing. Normally I never Fused any Personae until I got to a part in the dungeon where I just wasn't doing enough damage and my defense was getting me pummeled. Then I knew it was time to start Fusing. Preferably you want your Persona's level to be the same as your character's. If you are Lv 18 (your HP and SP level) and your Persona is only Lv 12, you are probably going to have a tough time in the dungeons. If you're Lv 18 you want your Persona to be Lv 17-20. Then you'll be able to manage the enemies better.
I'm new to the game and so far I'm having a blast.
A few questions. As someone who has never played the games prior, is this game supposed to seem a little daunting when you start off? I understand the gist of everything within the game (i.e. Social Links, fusing, etc), but the sheer amount of stuff to do is just mind-boggling. The fusing itself, while self-explanatory, seems fraught with danger. I'm afraid to do anything permanent and lose a card. I know you can register your Personas, but I still don't really understand how that works.
Last question...I can do a Tri-fuse and get a level 59 Anubis. I think, at best, I'm around level 9 or so in the first dungeon. This just seems broken to me. Looking at the Skills that Persona has, it doesn't have alot of out-and-out damage to it, but when your best Persona is level 8 and you see something that is level 59, my first inclination is to go for it. I can get another Persona that's at level 35 and a bunch of them that are closer to my level, but I don't really know what I NEED to have in order to complete things.
Thankfully, I have alot of time to complete this dungeon. I thought the cloud picture in the forecasts meant fog so I was madly trying to complete Yukiko's castle 10 days before it absolutely had to be completed.
A few questions. As someone who has never played the games prior, is this game supposed to seem a little daunting when you start off? I understand the gist of everything within the game (i.e. Social Links, fusing, etc), but the sheer amount of stuff to do is just mind-boggling. The fusing itself, while self-explanatory, seems fraught with danger. I'm afraid to do anything permanent and lose a card. I know you can register your Personas, but I still don't really understand how that works.
Last question...I can do a Tri-fuse and get a level 59 Anubis. I think, at best, I'm around level 9 or so in the first dungeon. This just seems broken to me. Looking at the Skills that Persona has, it doesn't have alot of out-and-out damage to it, but when your best Persona is level 8 and you see something that is level 59, my first inclination is to go for it. I can get another Persona that's at level 35 and a bunch of them that are closer to my level, but I don't really know what I NEED to have in order to complete things.
Thankfully, I have alot of time to complete this dungeon. I thought the cloud picture in the forecasts meant fog so I was madly trying to complete Yukiko's castle 10 days before it absolutely had to be completed.
GotchaForce
Member
Thanks for all the advice. I just died after 5 levels of a dungeon because of an insta kill. Really discouraging for it to happen so damn early:/ Gotta put some anti death on my guy I guess.
RocketDarkness
Member
Or level up your S. Links so your teammates will save your butt. =Probut said:
vegee said:
1) You can't fuse Persona higher than your current level, so that's not at all broken.
2) Fusing can never permanently screw you. Every persona is 100% re-obtainable, and the first time you get any single one, it gets registered into your compendium to be re-summoned for a fee. You can update the compendium record of a persona in the velvet room. You'll have Persona cards spilling out of your ass constantly (i.e. be at the limit), so you might as well get fusing.
3) The skills you see on a Persona are deceptive. You'll likely have their 2-3 base skills, 1-4 from fusion, and another 3 from S. Link bonus exp to work with, alongside the possibility of bonus skills from the Fusion Forecast.
Yaweee said:
Thanks for clearing some things up. I had completely forgotten that you can't fuse Persona higher than your level. I've been staring at that "You can now fuse Persona up to level __" message for the last hour or so. Guess it never really set in.
Considering that I haven't fused anything yet, I'm surprised I got as far as I did in the first dungeon. Enemies starting getting pretty hard by the 5th floor and I barely beat the first boss.
Adam Prime
hates soccer, is Mexican
RocketDarkness said:
This is really the key to surviving early on. You MUST S.Link Lv Up your party characters to the point so they will take a killing blow for you. It'll save you a lot of frustrations.
Honestly the first two dungeons were the hardest for me. The game eased up a lot after that because by that time I was getting used to the battle mechanics and as long as you stay up on your important S.Links (Party members and Fox), and do a bit of money grinding - you should really never have too big of a problem til the end. At least I didn't... playing on Normal.
Started my second run, going for max links. It's definitely more enjoyable not having that fear of being wiped at any given moment (still playing on normal).
I always feel like I'm playing the game wrong when it comes with my personas. I've noticed that when playing this and P3:Fes, I settled with Thor as my main. Obviously, there are far better personas but I can beat both games with him. I feel like I'm missing out on some legendary personas. I went ahead and fused a trumpeteer to see this "I win" button (sure enough it lived up to its name). So what other high level personas should I go for? Already I see I should get an Alice.
I always feel like I'm playing the game wrong when it comes with my personas. I've noticed that when playing this and P3:Fes, I settled with Thor as my main. Obviously, there are far better personas but I can beat both games with him. I feel like I'm missing out on some legendary personas. I went ahead and fused a trumpeteer to see this "I win" button (sure enough it lived up to its name). So what other high level personas should I go for? Already I see I should get an Alice.
MichaelEM3
Banned
Yoshitsune, definitely. Gotta max the Tower S.Link for him, I think.jasonng said:
Arguably the best physical based Persona in the game.
straydog1980
Banned
I'd like some advice from people on how to proceed, and feedback on how I'm doing so far.
It's 9/27, I've already
, and here are my stats:
Knowledge - 5
Courage - 5
Diligence - 4
Expression - 5
Understanding - 4
Here are my s. links:
Fool - 7
Magician - MAXED
Priestess - MAXED
Empress - 1
Emperor - 5
Hierophant - 6
Lovers - 1
Chariot - MAXED
Justice - 5
Hermit - MAXED
Strength - MAXED
Hanged Man - 1
Temperance - 3
Star - 5
Sun - 3
how am I doing?
It's 9/27, I've already
saved Naoto
Knowledge - 5
Courage - 5
Diligence - 4
Expression - 5
Understanding - 4
Here are my s. links:
Fool - 7
Magician - MAXED
Priestess - MAXED
Empress - 1
Emperor - 5
Hierophant - 6
Lovers - 1
Chariot - MAXED
Justice - 5
Hermit - MAXED
Strength - MAXED
Hanged Man - 1
Temperance - 3
Star - 5
Sun - 3
how am I doing?
You're not going to max out all your links if that's what you're going for. Two of the links you're going for are going to end sooner than the others so if you want to max their links out at the cost of spoilers then I'll spoil them at the bottom. I'd recommend not worrying about maxed links and just enjoy the game. No one finishes all the links on their first run. You can go finish the rest of your party's links so that they get their
though.
If you still want to know which two links end early (really recommend you find out for yourself) they are
EDIT: I'm stupid.
second persona
If you still want to know which two links end early (really recommend you find out for yourself) they are
Justice and Hierophant
EDIT: I'm stupid.
Labombadog
Member
I just got the game yesterday. Should I play this game on expert? I have played and beaten Nocturne, DDS 1 & 2, Persona 3 all on normal. To me Persona 3 was mostly easy on normal, would expert be too much or is it challenging without being cheap?
Adam Prime
hates soccer, is Mexican
Labombadog said:
I'm only a Persona 3 vet, and I thought Persona 4 was pretty easy on normal. The gameplay additions like controlling your teammate's actions, having your teammates take vital blows for you, etc. make the game easier and more forgiving. At times where you would've died in Persona 3, there was a safe guard in place to keep you from doing that.
That said, after the first two dungeons on P4 I'm not sure that I ever died repeatedly. It was mostly smooth sailing. So I would say if you want a challenge, do it on Expert.
Labombadog
Member
Thank you kind sir.Adam Prime said:
Btw, your avatar rocks!
Red Scarlet
Member
IIRC, my main obstacle to trying P3 on expert, the quadruple price of buying Personas from the compendium, doesn't happen in 4.
His avatar is too tall actually, and he should fix that.
His avatar is too tall actually, and he should fix that.
Red Scarlet
Member
Is that lady that can't cook no longer outside of the Dojima house?
IIRC she stops loitering on the corner when the fog gets bad :/
You might be able to trade some fish you have for bait with the old fisherman (his trades change each month and I don't remember if you get that option in December) otherwise pray for a home cooking opportunity :/
You might be able to trade some fish you have for bait with the old fisherman (his trades change each month and I don't remember if you get that option in December) otherwise pray for a home cooking opportunity :/
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Wait, what?noi5e said:
I was raising those links up throughout December, and they weren't available just on weekends either.
sithlord23
Member
thinking about playing this.
Angelus Errare
Banned
w00t, Thanks for your guide Red. Alice is the hotness. I just beat the game via true ending using mostly her :lol
About to run through again for all the S.Links.......using her again :lol
About to run through again for all the S.Links.......using her again :lol
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Yeah, I'm surprised people mistook that as happening to the team as a whole, considering how often I saw Naoto standing in the 1st floor hallway with the ! symbol overhead throughout most of the week.Tamanon said:
SecretBonusPoint
Banned
Found some awesome artwork of everyones Shadow-selves. Dunno if its been posted but:
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Is that pretty much the same as using Daisojou (Samsara/Hama Boost) or is it better for some reason with Alice needing a higher level to fuse?Shapingo said:
Gattsu25 said:
sure? this guy says the exact opposite :lol http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=14991960&postcount=21
Crystalkoen
Member
XiaNaphryz said:
Not having to go through the trouble to level Daisoujou up to the same level that Alice starts at (for the stats) would be a good enough reason, methinks, but Samsara/Hama Boost works as well against non-light immunes as Die for Me!/Mudo Boost works for non-dark immunes, if that's your only goal. Also, elemental immunities/weaknesses may be of concern, but I don't recall what those two break down to, and I'm too lazy to hit a FAQ just for this post
After almost 3 months of playing the game, I should finally get the true ending tonight. I got up to the boss last night, but it was late and I wanted to make sure I have time to watch all of the ending (don't know how long it is).
I freaking steamrolled the last dungeon; took out both mid bosses on round 2 (Chie + power charge + god's hand = THE OWNAGE). I'm hoping the final boss puts up some kind of a fight, but knowing how most JRPGs I've played work I'm not really expecting it.
I freaking steamrolled the last dungeon; took out both mid bosses on round 2 (Chie + power charge + god's hand = THE OWNAGE). I'm hoping the final boss puts up some kind of a fight, but knowing how most JRPGs I've played work I'm not really expecting it.
KibblesBits
Member
Monroeski said:
Does your game show the location in the bottom left area?