Persona 5 for PS3 announcement leaked?

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TheExodu5 said:
I think they'd be far smarter releasing Persona 5 before SMT4. Persona 5 will bring the popularity of the series to the current-gen consoles, and probably give a big sales boost to SMT4.
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I will say, as much as I love Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne, I only fully understood how the battle system worked, and how much buffing and de-buffing actually matters in a game where it can turn the tide, from Digital Devil Saga. If they decided to bring out a spin-off to properly portray on a more accessible scale how the system works to next-gen audience, that would make sense.

Then again, mainline SMT is extremely hardcore-niche especially concerning the subject matter it covers so I guess, bottom line, even having Persona on the first wave won't really convert people. (no pun intended there).
 
ShinoguTakeruKoeru said:
I will say, as much as I love Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne, I only fully understood how the battle system worked, and how much buffing and de-buffing actually matters in a game where it can turn the tide, from Digital Devil Saga. If they decided to bring out a spin-off to properly portray on a more accessible scale how the system works to next-gen audience, that would make sense.

Then again, mainline SMT is extremely hardcore-niche especially concerning the subject matter it covers so I guess, bottom line, even having Persona on the first wave won't really convert people. (no pun intended there).
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I think I might be willing to kill for a Digital Devil Saga HD, but look at my username :P
 
A new Persona is always good. Why are people complaining? It's not like the game will be released this year.

And Atlus, please release it on X360 and/or Ps3.
 
I discovered Persona with P2, when the english patch was released. Then I bought P3 FES and P4. LOVED P4...

Now, I'm really wanting an annoucement for P5, even if P4 is still young.
 
Second said:
A new Persona is always good. Why are people complaining? It's not like the game will be released this year.

And Atlus, please release it on X360 and/or Ps3.
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I don't think it's so much that people are complaining because they don't like persona, I think it's more like this:

In 3 years we have received Persona 3, Persona 3 FES, Persona 4, Persona 2 reprint, and Persona 1 on PSP. Isn't that enough Persona for now? Could we maybe get a little SMT4 love first? Persona is a great series, but to long time SMT fans.... it's like ENOUGH IS ENOUGH with persona!
 
It would be great for me if it's true. The Giant Bomb endurance run has me interested in the series but since I've seen so much of Persona 4, I really don't see a need to play it. I'd be all over Persona 5 though. I really don't care which platform it ends up on.
 
I really wish they would do another DDS or something like it. The the thing is I'm not sure if DDS was really successful anyway or would something like it be successful today at all. I'd say no.
 
Persona is a hot property right now, so it makes sense make it the first new game of the series on the CURRENT-GEN consoles. The reception was great, the brand recognition is growing - Persona 4 is in every store, much more so than the mainline, at least from what I've seen in Germany. The anime-like presentation is already a plus, so to have that with better graphics will appeal to the casual gamer.
 
Hypnotoad said:
Persona is a hot property right now, so it makes sense make it the first new game of the series on the CURRENT-GEN consoles. The reception was great, the brand recognition is growing - Persona 4 is in every store, much more so than the mainline, at least from what I've seen in Germany. The anime-like presentation is already a plus, so to have that with better graphics will appeal to the casual gamer.
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Really? I thought Persona 4 bombed in Europe, compared to Persona 3...

BTW... I want a main character with the Cocytus spell XD
 
To be honest, the only SMT games I've played are Persona 3 FES, Persona 4 and Nocturne.

I've never played a DDS or another SMT title. So I don't know what I'm missing if Atlus continues to give the Persona franchise more attention.
 
Serph said:
I don't think it's so much that people are complaining because they don't like persona, I think it's more like this:

In 3 years we have received Persona 3, Persona 3 FES, Persona 4, Persona 2 reprint, and Persona 1 on PSP. Isn't that enough Persona for now? Could we maybe get a little SMT4 love first? Persona is a great series, but to long time SMT fans.... it's like ENOUGH IS ENOUGH with persona!
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i'd also like to see SMT4 but i don't mind getting Persona 5. i don't care as long as they release a SMT related game on ps3. P4 is the best selling SMT title ever so it would only make sense to develope P5 instead of SMT4.
my only concern, like already mentioned before, is that they are pushing the franchise a little bit too much.
 
You dumbshits saying Persona needs to "sit" are so fucked up in the head it is hard to even imagine. Persona made up not only the best RPG on the PS2 it made up both of the two best RPGs on the PS2. God damn I want more persona all over my face.
 
Having played every SMT on the PS2 I can safely and confidently say that Persona3/4 are not only better than the Digital Devil Sagas and Nocturne but they are also infinitely times more accessible to the mainstream, more enjoyable, have better storylines and more memorable characters. Sure the Personas maybe more "shallow" than say Lucifer's Call but that does not detract from the enjoyment, it simply makes it more streamlined. Hell at the core every SMT is fairly "easy" once you realize that status effects make a world of difference in combat.
 
Icehouse said:
I mean, really. After Persona 3, Fes, and 4, who the fuck really wants more Persona so soon? *Especially* if they go with the s-link formula again?
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I do. Loved P4 and liked P3 as well. Love social links as well. All RPGs should implement them in some form, I'd love the opportunity to get to know my party members better outside of the forced interactions. Only thing they could improve would be to make it so whatever social link you're currently at would affect how the characters treated you in the main game.
 
Persona3/4 are are dark. Their storylines are deep and mature. I'm sorry but DDS's storyline was extremely trite and overdone. I loved DDS don't get me wrong. It is still a much better RPG than anything Final Fantasy put out during the PS2 era but it still doesn't even come close to brushing how great Persona3/4 were.

The good thing about Persona is that not only is is storyline heavy but even during the stretches where the story doesn't advance you have the S-Link storylines evolving and progressing. Not to mention "school time" breaks up the redundancy of dungeon crawling combat. In Lucifer/DDS it was like "Ok I just crawled for 2 hours ... here comes my 10 minute long cutscene!" ... "Great, now I have another 2 hour dungeon." That is the accessability I am referring to. Persona also brings in such stark contrasts of light and dark. You are a normal kid going to school while at the whole time dealing with personal internal struggle, trying to save the world and trying to get the girl. It is hard to have a "normal kid" while living in post-apocalyptic Japan or traversing the Junkyard.


JRPGs dont sell well in general.
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I made an incorrect statement about sales.
 
Icehouse said:
But you're going to give Persona 4 a pass because it is "accessible" and "mainstream" (although it isn't)?
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Nah. I am just saying it probably doesn't matter which way they go because the difference in sales might not be that great. Persona 4 sold only one or two hundred thousand?
 
MoogPaul said:
Start with P3, which has better story and characters. The gameplay in 4 is much better, so if you play 4 before 3, you'll never make it through 3. Just my opinion, but don't pass on the story and characters of 3.
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Well I've gone on a search for both P3 FES and P4 - found P4 easily but I'm having trouble finding FES (in-store). I can always order online or something but... I kinda wanted to start one of them today, and someone else suggested to play 3 before 4. lol
Blah.
 
Persona3/4 are are dark. Their storylines are deep and mature. I'm sorry but DDS's storyline was extremely trite and overdone.
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WHAT?

Persona 3/4's stories are nothing special. I forgot really what happen in most of them. There not deep at all. What makes Persona stand out other then the gameplay are the characters not the story. Even then its not the characters are original. Hell no! they are characters that have been in almost every teen movie/book anywhere. What makes them good is that they are well realized,developed, and written. Persona 3's story was pretty meh and so was Persona 4's. Really its just the characters stuff and their interactions that make the story elements good. I wouldn't say its mature or anything.

DDS on the other hand did actually interesting things. Nothing trite about it. It had an interesting twists and did interesting things that few stories do. Was it deep? No but it defiantly had some depth and maturity to its plot.
 
Tenks said:
The good thing about Persona is that not only is is storyline heavy but even during the stretches where the story doesn't advance you have the S-Link storylines evolving and progressing. Not to mention "school time" breaks up the redundancy of dungeon crawling combat. In Lucifer/DDS it was like "Ok I just crawled for 2 hours ... here comes my 10 minute long cutscene!" ... "Great, now I have another 2 hour dungeon." That is the accessability I am referring to. Persona also brings in such stark contrasts of light and dark. You are a normal kid going to school while at the whole time dealing with personal internal struggle, trying to save the world and trying to get the girl. It is hard to have a "normal kid" while living in post-apocalyptic Japan or traversing the Junkyard.
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See this is where you went wrong. The gameplay is what makes SMT games so special. That fact that you had to wait hours before being able to do one damn thing was Persona 3/4 biggest failing.

Also you make the mistake of thinking more cutscenes equal a greater story. This is absolutely false. I would take games like SMT Nocturne and BoF: Dragon Quarter any day over P3/4 when it comes to story.

Like Icehouse mentioned, SMT is never going to be as big as other mainstream Jrpgs series (at least not again).
 
I've got no adverse feelings towards the main SMT series but I just prefer the Persona template more. If they evolve the SMT formula into something I find more entertaining than a dungeon crawling chore (also, as an aside, in DDS it sometimes felt like you had to die a few times to figure out a bosses pattern then beat them ... I didn't like that either) I'd be on board.

I'll buy whatever SMT puts out though.
 
Icehouse said:
Shit, the emphasis on story is why I think DDS1 is better than DDS2. Why the fuck can't I have a static party in DDS2 when I have a specific plan for how I customize my party? Oh right!
Everyone dies!!!
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DDS2 seems fairly rushed...

I love the first game much more because of the settings, story setup (what we got in DDS2 was ultimately disappointing for me at least), aesthetics, music and dungeon designs.
 
Icehouse said:
Oh God, DDS1 is miles ahead of DDS2 in every way except battle themes.
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I especially love the battle themes more in DDS1.

There is something off about DDS2's soundtrack. It's sounds very synthesizer compared to DDS1. What I loved most about the music (battle themes being the stand out) was how it actually sounded like instruments.
 
Varna said:
DDS2 seems fairly rushed...

I love the first game much more because of the settings, story setup (what we got in DDS2 was ultimately disappointing for me at least), aesthetics, music and dungeon designs.
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I agree all of this...

although, I can't get enough of DDS2's "Battle for Survival"
 
Rahxephon91 said:
Why does a new main line SMT have to come before a new Persona?
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From a development standpoint, because the core SMT game, with its huge roster of demons who serve directly as party members and NPCs, is an excellent opportunity to lay the groundwork and build the assets necessary for the many titles to follow (including more Persona, new spinoff franchises akin to DDS, possibly Devil Summoner 3, etc.)

From a consumer standpoint, because all the people who bought P3 solely for the animu dating-sim elements and don't care to chase down the rest of the series and discover how good the Megaten series is as a whole are friggin' annoying.

P4 just came out in 2008. P5 could come out as late as 2011 and still be received very positively off the back of its predecessor -- and without risking franchise fatigue where people go "Fuck, I just bought Persona 4 and that game was like 200,000 hours long, do I really need another one yet?"

Superficial gamers whining for an immediate P5 are akin to the people who bitch about SE announcing a new RPG that isn't yet another Final Fantasy, or who think EA developing new IPs like Mirror's Edge is dangerously close to detracting from their real purpose of spending money on Madden. The newfound success of the Persona franchise should be an opportunity for Atlus to branch out and put out more risky and different titles (with the knowledge that they can always come back to P5 a little ways down the road), not for them to singlemindedly whore out the one franchise until everyone's sick of it.
 
charlequin said:
From a development standpoint, because the core SMT game, with its huge roster of demons who serve directly as party members and NPCs, is an excellent opportunity to lay the groundwork and build the assets necessary for the many titles to follow (including more Persona, new spinoff franchises akin to DDS, possibly Devil Summoner 3, etc.)

From a consumer standpoint, because all the people who bought P3 solely for the animu dating-sim elements and don't care to chase down the rest of the series and discover how good the Megaten series is as a whole are friggin' annoying.

P4 just came out in 2008. P5 could come out as late as 2011 and still be received very positively off the back of its predecessor -- and without risking franchise fatigue where people go "Fuck, I just bought Persona 4 and that game was like 200,000 hours long, do I really need another one yet?"

Superficial gamers whining for an immediate P5 are akin to the people who bitch about SE announcing a new RPG that isn't yet another Final Fantasy, or who think EA developing new IPs like Mirror's Edge is dangerously close to detracting from their real purpose of spending money on Madden. The newfound success of the Persona franchise should be an opportunity for Atlus to branch out and put out more risky and different titles (with the knowledge that they can always come back to P5 a little ways down the road), not for them to singlemindedly whore out the one franchise until everyone's sick of it.
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charlequin said:
From a development standpoint, because the core SMT game, with its huge roster of demons who serve directly as party members and NPCs, is an excellent opportunity to lay the groundwork and build the assets necessary for the many titles to follow (including more Persona, new spinoff franchises akin to DDS, possibly Devil Summoner 3, etc.)

From a consumer standpoint, because all the people who bought P3 solely for the animu dating-sim elements and don't care to chase down the rest of the series and discover how good the Megaten series is as a whole are friggin' annoying.

P4 just came out in 2008. P5 could come out as late as 2011 and still be received very positively off the back of its predecessor -- and without risking franchise fatigue where people go "Fuck, I just bought Persona 4 and that game was like 200,000 hours long, do I really need another one yet?"

Superficial gamers whining for an immediate P5 are akin to the people who bitch about SE announcing a new RPG that isn't yet another Final Fantasy, or who think EA developing new IPs like Mirror's Edge is dangerously close to detracting from their real purpose of spending money on Madden. The newfound success of the Persona franchise should be an opportunity for Atlus to branch out and put out more risky and different titles (with the knowledge that they can always come back to P5 a little ways down the road), not for them to singlemindedly whore out the one franchise until everyone's sick of it.
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2011? :(
i need my persona fix, stat!
 
charlequin said:
From a development standpoint, because the core SMT game, with its huge roster of demons who serve directly as party members and NPCs, is an excellent opportunity to lay the groundwork and build the assets necessary for the many titles to follow (including more Persona, new spinoff franchises akin to DDS, possibly Devil Summoner 3, etc.)

From a consumer standpoint, because all the people who bought P3 solely for the animu dating-sim elements and don't care to chase down the rest of the series and discover how good the Megaten series is as a whole are friggin' annoying.

P4 just came out in 2008. P5 could come out as late as 2011 and still be received very positively off the back of its predecessor -- and without risking franchise fatigue where people go "Fuck, I just bought Persona 4 and that game was like 200,000 hours long, do I really need another one yet?"

Superficial gamers whining for an immediate P5 are akin to the people who bitch about SE announcing a new RPG that isn't yet another Final Fantasy, or who think EA developing new IPs like Mirror's Edge is dangerously close to detracting from their real purpose of spending money on Madden. The newfound success of the Persona franchise should be an opportunity for Atlus to branch out and put out more risky and different titles (with the knowledge that they can always come back to P5 a little ways down the road), not for them to singlemindedly whore out the one franchise until everyone's sick of it.
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I wholeheartedly agree, but you're talking to a lot of people who either never played anything outside Persona 3/4 or played about 2 hours of DDS/Nocturne before putting it down for one reason or another. They're going to keep demanding sequels until Persona is a yearly franchise and giving their opinion on why why shouldn't see SMT4 before Persona 5, 6, 7 or 8.
 
I would like to play a SMT4, but only if it was a drastic step up from 3/Nocturne with proper town environments, NPC's and a lot of the stuff found in Persona 3+4. I tried playing Nocturne to satisfy my cravings after those Persona games, but things like no voices, NPC's just on a map screen and none of the town locations and so forth just felt too archaeic and something that belongs on a portable rpg and not a console one.
 
Yaweee said:
Yes. And who knows, once Famitsu leaks tonight we might see that Strange Journey uses the EO system.
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That would be more than acceptable, although I always preferred the forests (and deserts, and cherry tree groves, and etc) to SMT and Persona's more urban settings.
 
I'm going back through Persona 4 now, my god such a fantastic game. I went through P3 The Journey twice and The Answer twice as well, Persona 4 just once so far. We all know Persona 5 will eventually be coming out...

Be it soonish, for the PS3 or otherwise.
 
Homersexual said:
I'm not arguing quality. Persona 3 is what I consider the best overall jrpg I've played this side of FF8, SMT3, and Chrono Trigger.
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You are a sad person. I feel sorry for you.
 
I agree with the "SMT first" crowd. Persona will come eventually, but let the core franchise move on first.
 
i'd like to play a new SMT (and hope it's better than nocturne). but i'd also take a new persona in HD if they can't help it.

don't really care.......


so, what now? :)
 
Augemitbutter said:
i'd like to play a new SMT (and hope it's better than nocturne). but i'd also take a new persona in HD if they can't help it.

don't really care.......


so, what now? :)
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You play the waiting game!
 
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