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Persona 5 |OT| Lupin The Fifth. Label spoilers properly! (see post #4621)
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Noticed that too.
Would love to know this too, basically
is it better to kill off the other enemies and try to negotiate with only a single enemy, or is there no difference if you negotiate with one or four enemies
iRAWRasaurus
Banned
yep.
Shadow Broker
Banned
Lol.. I just lost 40 minutes of progress because a shadow spammed cleave until my group died.
I would usually be pissed but it's been so long since I played a game that punishes you for dying. I'm loving this so far.
I would usually be pissed but it's been so long since I played a game that punishes you for dying. I'm loving this so far.
meltingparappa
Member
Absolute whiplash coming from Nier to this.
But then I realized it's just an rpg and you're not going to do a trillion frame perfect bayonetta backflips, so I got used to it by the end of the first dungeon.
Thanks. :3
Vire
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First Persona game, only an hour or so in but someone could please explain he time system to me?
How does it work exactly? Am i penalized for taking to long? Say I just sit idle in the first dungeon for four hundred hours could I theoretically screw myself and not be able to progress?
How does it work exactly? Am i penalized for taking to long? Say I just sit idle in the first dungeon for four hundred hours could I theoretically screw myself and not be able to progress?
The real Butters
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I went from 0 to MUST HAVE IT NOW BUT ITS SOLD OUT EVERYWHERE!-panic mode. Yikes!
I'm thinking this is a perfect game to pick up for me and the wife to play together.
So yeah, That's how it is. Love the style... So uh. I'll be out of your way now.
I'm thinking this is a perfect game to pick up for me and the wife to play together.
So yeah, That's how it is. Love the style... So uh. I'll be out of your way now.
shnurgleton
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Time progresses in chunks when you do activities. It isn't real time.
DarkConfidant
Member
Same. I just finished 4 Golden on Saturday, and both the production quality and the intensity of the story is blowing my mind!
I didn't think Persona could really get any better than 4!
No. Time only progresses when you leave the dungeon. It moves forward whenever you do an activity.
No, time isn't on a counter, it's on a per acttivity basis. I think it works like this but I might be missing something:
Afternoons and evenings give you the choice of how to spend your time, and you can generally engage in one activity per time slot before you advance to the next.
You can explore and run around as much as you want, it's not until you make a specific action that time will advance.
I think sometimes cut-scenes can trigger advancing time, too.
meltingparappa
Member
When people in the thread talk about time, they're generally referring to units of "daytime" or "nighttime". Down the road, you'll get to determine your schedule on a day by day basis, and choosing to hang out with someone will take up a single "day" after school, which could have otherwise been spent on studying, competitive eating, or going into a dungeon.
Once you're in a dungeon at a moment the story doesn't 100% require it, all you're doing is expending that block of time in a single "day". There's no real time clock that penalizes you in any way.
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
Still really early but I never expected this game to go to such dark places.
4/15 spoilers:
Ryuiji is the hero we deserve. Really like him so far.
The early teasers and all the talk about what the themes for this game would be... They really meant it and I respect that. What a bold game so far.
4/15 spoilers:
I was convinced someone was going to stop that girl from jumping. And she's in a coma? Damn.
The early teasers and all the talk about what the themes for this game would be... They really meant it and I respect that. What a bold game so far.
Just scripted it seems.
He got the information from
the patron at his cafe who brought the story up to him in the first place, who learned of the story presumably from Joker and his parents. You talk about making things overly complicated and then go on to craft this elaborate scenario lol. Sojiro never would have taken him in if he thought he was some violent nutjub. And he definitely wouldn't put much stock in anything the courts (never mind how unlikely it is that Joker's side of events would be recorded faithfully) say considering his own history. I'm not sure what the point of contention here even is anymore, but it's made clear at the beginning in the attic that Sojiro knows Joker is just a kid who got screwed over by the system. That's the whole reason he took him in, because he was able to empathize with him and saw himself in Joker, what with getting pushed out of his own bureaucratic position and exiled to Yongenjaya.
texhnolyze
Banned
Sometimes I forget that I'm dealing with teenagers. They're all so naive.
freeofgreed
Member
So why do they still have school on Saturdays? I thought Japan got rid of that a while ago. I was looking forward to having an extra fee day with this game.
It's not like you get to do three things instead of two on Sundays.
I'd be less bothered by it if not for (vague first dungeon spoilers)
the subject matter with Kamoshida. She's a model after all. But I would have liked different poses for her, even without that stuff. Oh well, I still like the character.
Billy_Pilgrim
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Sucked into this one far more than I was P4G.
One thing that has had me laughing out loud, the comments under the Phan-site gauge. Could be from Gaf.
Is the Persona 3 movie worth watching for someone who never played the game?
One thing that has had me laughing out loud, the comments under the Phan-site gauge. Could be from Gaf.
Is the Persona 3 movie worth watching for someone who never played the game?
Also getting stuck when you are even remotely near objects sucks.
Given the logo on Ann's hoody, I think it's supposed to represent a, ah, different community.
Vire
Member
His voice acting is really good.
A talking cat which was supposedlgnhuman obce, the characters themselves ask are you a boy or a girl because they are unsure and if you pick girl Morgana says whatever you say, of course I am a male.
If you want me to discount that and throw my idea of what is a male voice/name and female voice/name just because it's a talking cat in a cartoon JRPG then by that merit it should also apply to the rest of the party and everyone in the game...bug thst would be a bit ridiculous.
I really need to stop looking up that min max walkthrough. I'm not even following it or anything, just checking up on it occasionally to see how I'm doing. And I'm waaaay behind on that guide even though I felt like I've been spending my time optimally.
YUP, it really has been that good. Crazy stuff man. ;___;
YUP, it really has been that good. Crazy stuff man. ;___;
The point is you asked "why does a boy have a girl's voice and a girl's name".
Why not?
Why does a boy have to have a "boy's" name?
And why is it important in a game dealing with fantastical creatures like this?
Was going to hold off on this because it's 70 bloody euros and because I was still playing Gravity Rush 2. But since Gravity Rush 2 is so utterly shit that I dropped it altogether I decided what the hell, might as well jump in with everyone else and get that 'crap game' taste out of my mouth.
Thank god for the PS4 'play while partially downloaded' feature, as it let me put in two hours last night between 1am and 3am.
So far, there are a few little flaws and niggles, but overall I'm really, really enjoying it. A really solid start. I don't like most JRPGs (and hated SMT IV) but the persona series simply has such a sense of style, flair and 'smoothness' that it overcomes my general issues, and it looks to be the same here. The UI is unparalleled, the music is already fantastic, the setting is great, the anime sequences are well-integrated, seeing the SMT demons in 3d like this is awesome... From a presentation point of view I think the only thing I'd nitpick is that the actual gameplay visuals are pretty bog-standard for a PS4 game. You can tell it's a PS3 port.
Anyway, I loved the way the story started off quickly - the pacing has been fantastic so far. I'm not as much of a fan of how they depicted the MC's 'issue' that leads him to the school, or how people react to it. It just doesn't make any sense that this kid wouldn't have been able to explain to people what happened considering he had the woman as a witness, and even if convicted due to corruption or what have you, he should still be able to explain to teachers etc that it's all BS. Instead he just lets everyone treat him like shit - why? But that's a minor point - I'm happy with the rest of it so far, and crucially I like the characters I've met so far.
What has really, really surprised me is how tolerable the voice acting is so far. It's obviously still the stilted 'read one line at a time' anime-style voice acting rather than any kind of convincing attempt at conversational flow (and man I wish a JRPG would attempt that) but the voices themselves I find just fine, maybe with the exception of Igor.
I was expecting to play 20 minutes and then turn the game off and wait for the Japanese language download, now I'm not even sure if I'll use it. That's a great result, as I couldn't stick in the english voices in P4G for more than an hour.
Some of the translation is wonky, though... it's feels like a lot of the lines haven't been fully localised, like they're not natural english speakers writing the lines or something. However considering it's set in Japan and uses honourifics even in English it's something I can rationalise as 'trying to be authentic'.
Anyway, can't wait to get home after work and play it, which is a great feeling after 10 days of literally forcing myself to play GR2 as a chore because I spent money on it.
Thank god for the PS4 'play while partially downloaded' feature, as it let me put in two hours last night between 1am and 3am.
So far, there are a few little flaws and niggles, but overall I'm really, really enjoying it. A really solid start. I don't like most JRPGs (and hated SMT IV) but the persona series simply has such a sense of style, flair and 'smoothness' that it overcomes my general issues, and it looks to be the same here. The UI is unparalleled, the music is already fantastic, the setting is great, the anime sequences are well-integrated, seeing the SMT demons in 3d like this is awesome... From a presentation point of view I think the only thing I'd nitpick is that the actual gameplay visuals are pretty bog-standard for a PS4 game. You can tell it's a PS3 port.
Anyway, I loved the way the story started off quickly - the pacing has been fantastic so far. I'm not as much of a fan of how they depicted the MC's 'issue' that leads him to the school, or how people react to it. It just doesn't make any sense that this kid wouldn't have been able to explain to people what happened considering he had the woman as a witness, and even if convicted due to corruption or what have you, he should still be able to explain to teachers etc that it's all BS. Instead he just lets everyone treat him like shit - why? But that's a minor point - I'm happy with the rest of it so far, and crucially I like the characters I've met so far.
What has really, really surprised me is how tolerable the voice acting is so far. It's obviously still the stilted 'read one line at a time' anime-style voice acting rather than any kind of convincing attempt at conversational flow (and man I wish a JRPG would attempt that) but the voices themselves I find just fine, maybe with the exception of Igor.
I was expecting to play 20 minutes and then turn the game off and wait for the Japanese language download, now I'm not even sure if I'll use it. That's a great result, as I couldn't stick in the english voices in P4G for more than an hour.
Some of the translation is wonky, though... it's feels like a lot of the lines haven't been fully localised, like they're not natural english speakers writing the lines or something. However considering it's set in Japan and uses honourifics even in English it's something I can rationalise as 'trying to be authentic'.
Anyway, can't wait to get home after work and play it, which is a great feeling after 10 days of literally forcing myself to play GR2 as a chore because I spent money on it.
Just beat the second dungeon. Wow coming from the first boss design this was a huge letdown, really boring and lame, i always thought there gotta be another transformation, is that really it? welp turns out it was.
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
Actually, in a game dealing with legends and mythical creatures, the gender of something calling itself Morgana could be a pretty big deal.
RampagingSoul
Member
I've played for a few hours yesterday and got to After School 4/18, so spoilers for anything before that here:
Anyways, really liking the game so far and can't wait to play more when I get the chance!
I've been liking the darker, grounded tone a lot in this game. It's reminding me of mostly of P3 in tone and story so far, but more grounded in reality, which makes the story more powerful as result when stuff happens like Shiho's attempted suicide after Kamoshida rapes her after Ann refuses to meet up at Kamoshida's house for them to have sex. It definitely makes you want to steal the treasure from the castle, even if Kamoshida could die by it. That stuff got to me and made me want to defeat the castle, but it was getting late and had college the next day, so... yeah. I'm loving that the negotiation feature of recruiting shadows/demons from SMT games is in this. So far, I'm 1/2 in my negotiations in my limited time. I hope to finish the castle soon and I'll probably play a bit later today when I get home.
Anyways, really liking the game so far and can't wait to play more when I get the chance!
We were talking about the question "why does a boy have a girl's name/voice?". I can't see anything in the wiki, but does that have any relevance to this specific question?
Dougieflesh
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This game plays really well on Vita remote play. I'm trying to sneak some gameplay in during my downtime at work.
tiebreaker
Member
How do you check the weather in this game? Is it the same like the previous one that the enemies in the dungeon become stronger when it's raining?
Well, given that Morgana is the name of a very definitely female trickster archetype, from a myth cycle that has had characters appear as personas before, it can cause some very reasonable doubts as to his honesty and intentions.
jungomitis
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Game's been great so far. The plot was a bit hard to follow at first - but I think I get what it's trying to do now.
Wish the loading times could be a bit better though.
Wish the loading times could be a bit better though.
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