Click on any persona you need, it will show a list of personas that you can fuse to get the persona you clicked on and will even arrange it according to total cost starting from the cheapest one.
True! It's how I got the 4 I currently have, but I still have some to find and they're so rare that running into multiples because I wasn't in the right area is annoying.
Grey means you have to do something to progress. Either get a stat up such as Charm or Knowledge or complete a quest in Mementos before you can progress.
Grey means you have to do something to progress. Either get a stat up such as Charm or Knowledge or complete a quest in Mementos before you can progress.
Sae had her own Palace. Nothing I've seen in her palace so far points to her really deserving one. At most she should get a shadow in mementos, but getting an entire palace just for being overly competitive seems mild. It was even weirder seeing all the characters over react to this. It just seems a bit unbelievable. Especially when compared to everyone else who had a palace.
Sae had her own Palace. Nothing I've seen in her palace so far points to her really deserving one. At most she should get a shadow in mementos, but getting an entire palace just for being overly competitive seems mild. It was even weirder seeing all the characters over react to this. It just seems a bit unbelievable. Especially when compared to everyone else who had a palace.
The whole arc leading up to that palace was very weak. You are locked out of Mementos, the words won't stop and they repeat the same point SO MANY FUCKING TIMES.
True! It's how I got the 4 I currently have, but I still have some to find and they're so rare that running into multiples because I wasn't in the right area is annoying.
The very first thing I stole in the 7th palace had one pop out and i missed it because it was in a tiny room with a bunch of tables you could cover behind so pressing X trying to hit the fucking thing just made me take cover every time. It ran away.
Sae had her own Palace. Nothing I've seen in her palace so far points to her really deserving one. At most she should get a shadow in mementos, but getting an entire palace just for being overly competitive seems mild. It was even weirder seeing all the characters over react to this. It just seems a bit unbelievable. Especially when compared to everyone else who had a palace.
So does your compendium progress carry over into NG+? I'm enjoying the fusion stuff way more then I thought, and I'll likely go for 100%. I just wanted to verify I don't have to grind like crazy to get it this playthrough.
So does your compendium progress carry over into NG+? I'm enjoying the fusion stuff way more then I thought, and I'll likely go for 100%. I just wanted to verify I don't have to grind like crazy to get it this playthrough.
But I'm still not convinced that means she should gte a palace. If being a bitch was all it takes then everyone would have one. I mean we have serial killers, cult leaders etc.. in this game and they don't even have palaces. It felt more like a plot convenience to give her one as oppossed to the game making me genuinely think she needed one.
middle of june now, & enjoying just about everything immensely, but i gotta admit,
i'm finding the lack of an over-all story kinda tiresome & disappointing at this point. i mean, 'strange incidents continue to occur' does not a story make ...
Click on any persona you need, it will show a list of personas that you can fuse to get the persona you clicked on and will even arrange it according to total cost starting from the cheapest one.
Sae's palace made about as much sense as Futaba's did. Palaces aren't necessarily relegated to criminals only. They're defined as being created by "distorted desires," which Futaba (suicidal/remorseful/angry at mother's unresolved death, thinks it's her fault and also thinks it might not be, conflicting thoughts in general) and Sae (competitive streak and anger at life's injustice led her to start stepping on other people) both definitely had. They were both relatively ordinary people going through a lot of internal conflicts, which added a layer of nuance to the palaces that I really enjoyed. It also makes them more threatening and meaningful, in a way, by telling the player that even good people can develop something like a palace if they let their desires twist them too much.
Futaba and Sae both had their treasure stolen and were still functional, too, showing that the change of heart is not an assault on the palace owner's psyche. Sae and Futaba's relative innocence made the breakdowns of the actual criminals hold more weight to them, like it was a natural reaction of being suddenly aware of the monstrosities they'd let themselves become rather than a direct manipulation of their mind by the Phantom Thieves.
Sae's palace made about as much sense as Futaba's did. Palaces aren't necessarily relegated to criminals only. They're defined as being created by "distorted desires," which Futaba (suicidal/remorseful/angry at mother's unresolved death, thinks it's her fault and also thinks it might not be, conflicting thoughts in general) and Sae (competitive streak and anger at life's injustice led her to start stepping on other people) both definitely had. They were both relatively ordinary people going through a lot of internal conflicts, which added a layer of nuance to the palaces that I really enjoyed. It also makes them more threatening and meaningful, in a way, by telling the player that even good people can develop something like a palace if they let their desires twist them too much.
Futaba and Sae both had their treasure stolen and were still functional, too, showing that the change of heart is not an assault on the palace owner's psyche. Sae and Futaba's relative innocence made the breakdowns of the actual criminals hold more weight to them, like it was a natural reaction of being suddenly aware of the monstrosities they'd let themselves become rather than a direct manipulation of their mind by the Phantom Thieves.
that the game sold me on why Futaba had a palace far better than it did for Sae. With Fiuaba you could clearly see the huge mental impact her guilt was having her on and the effects it had on her life. Plus with in her palace you could see how fucked up she was in even more detail. With Sae, aside from 1 or 2 scenes she didn't seem all that distorted. Even when her Shadow is going over how "evil" she is. what she said wasn't even all that bad.
But I'm still not convinced that means she should gte a palace. If being a bitch was all it takes then everyone would have one. I mean we have serial killers, cult leaders etc.. in this game and they don't even have palaces. It felt more like a plot convenience to give her one as oppossed to the game making me genuinely think she needed one.
I mean the whole point of palaces isn't that you're evil or cruel, really, it's just having a distorted view of reality.
Her father died and got no justice from it. She was forced to look after herself and Makoto, despite her probably not being that old at the time. She works in a job surrounded by men who probably just look down on her all the time, which in turn probably led to her thinking that she always has to win. It was the only way to get noticed.
While she may not be a killer, I think that shit could make you a pretty cynical person.
I mean the whole point of palaces isn't that you're evil or cruel, really, it's just having a distorted view of reality.
Her father died and got no justice from it. She was forced to look after herself and Makoto, despite her probably not being that old at the time. She works in a job surrounded by men who probably just look down on her all the time, which in turn probably led to her thinking that she always has to win. It was the only way to get noticed.
While she may not be a killer, I think that shit could make you a pretty cynical person.
But I'm still not convinced that means she should gte a palace. If being a bitch was all it takes then everyone would have one. I mean we have serial killers, cult leaders etc.. in this game and they don't even have palaces. It felt more like a plot convenience to give her one as oppossed to the game making me genuinely think she needed one.
It's not about being "a bitch," but the fact that she had been in a poor state of mind since her father died. You're skipping Futaba in your examples, who also had a palace, but she wasn't evil. It's about one's desires getting unbalanced and, well, "distorted." Since her father died, she placed an unhealthy desire on victory. She felt that, if you lose, everything you had done before was for naught. This goes along with the fact that she's a prosecutor, so it also warped her sense of justice accordingly.
As an Ace Attorney fan, this kind of story is prevalent in those games.
I appreciated it, and I thought it made sense. Though it sounds like you might have just started that Palace? If so, you might want to wait until the background of the target is explored further before you make conclusions.
that the game sold me on why Futaba had a palace far better than it did for Sae. With Fiuaba you could clearly see the huge mental impact her guilt was having her on and the effects it had on her life. Plus with in her palace you could see how fucked up she was in even more detail. With Sae, aside from 1 or 2 scenes she didn't seem all that distorted. Even when her Shadow is going over how "evil" she is. what she said wasn't even all that bad.
even the Thieves themselves say they probably could have left it alone, and the main reason they went there was because of its convenient location at the police station. It was the perfect place to trip up Akechi's betrayal. So, as far as palaces go, the main cast mostly agrees with you in that hers wasn't nearly as dangerous as the others. She had a reason to have one, but she wasn't doing much with it besides snapping at people occasionally. And going along with Japan's prosecution problem because it was the winning side, which is an impure reason for justice. It seemed to me to be a two birds, one stone act by Joker and co. Trap Akechi and get rid of Sae's distortions in one go.
It's not about being "a bitch," but the fact that she had been in a poor state of mind since her father died. You're skipping Futaba in your examples, who also had a palace, but she wasn't evil. It's about one's desires getting unbalanced and, well, "distorted." Since her father died, she placed an unhealthy desire on victory. She felt that, if you lose, everything you had done before was for naught. This goes along with the fact that she's a prosecutor, so it also warped her sense of justice accordingly.
As an Ace Attorney fan, this kind of story is prevalent in those games.
I appreciated it, and I thought it made sense. Though it sounds like you might have just started that Palace? If so, you might want to wait until the background of the target is explored further before you make conclusions.
It's not about being "a bitch," but the fact that she had been in a poor state of mind since her father died. You're skipping Futaba in your examples, who also had a palace, but she wasn't evil. It's about one's desires getting unbalanced and, well, "distorted." Since her father died, she placed an unhealthy desire on victory. She felt that, if you lose, everything you had done before was for naught. This goes along with the fact that she's a prosecutor, so it also warped her sense of justice accordingly.
As an Ace Attorney fan, this kind of story is prevalent in those games.
I appreciated it, and I thought it made sense. Though it sounds like you might have just started that Palace? If so, you might want to wait until the background of the target is explored further before you make conclusions.
Are you sure? I thought it was left ambiguous as to whether or not it was stolen. I know Joker's briefcase was a fake, but the others could have easily taken it, right? (I could be wrong here)
middle of june now, & enjoying just about everything immensely, but i gotta admit,
i'm finding the lack of an over-all story kinda tiresome & disappointing at this point. i mean, 'strange incidents continue to occur' does not a story make ...
Are you sure? I thought it was left ambiguous as to whether or not it was stolen. I know Joker's briefcase was a fake, but the others could have easily taken it, right? (I could be wrong here)
when the game catches up to the framing device and Sae goes (paraphrased), "In the end, your latest heist was a failure and you were unable to steal my treasure." She also asks, near the end of the game, what her treasure looked like, and the protagonist has no idea.
I suppose there's the case where he could have been lying about the first bit (or the drugs distorted his memory?). I don't really think so, but there could be an argument for it.
when the game catches up to the framing device and Sae goes (paraphrased), "In the end, your latest heist was a failure and you were unable to steal my treasure." She also asks, near the end of the game, what her treasure looked like, and the protagonist has no idea.
I suppose there's the case where he could have been lying about the first bit (or the drugs distorted his memory?). I don't really think so, but there could be an argument for it.
I think the length of this games dungeons may make a replay hard.
Palace 4 spoilers
I just finished the "Regret Chamber" or whatever and was thinking "okay I probably just need to do the other side now and I'll be done." So I saved and left the dungeon to see how far I was and Morgana was all "Hmm we haven't reached a turning point yet." (I'm going to reload the save and complete it all in one in game day).
wow, if you decide to start a replationship with an older lady, they kinda give a hint that you actually slept with them. Kinda ballsy especially after the incident with Kamoshida and girls your age.
wow, if you decide to start a replationship with an older lady, they kinda give a hint that you actually slept with them. Kinda ballsy especially after the incident with Kamoshida and girls your age.
Are you sure? I thought it was left ambiguous as to whether or not it was stolen. I know Joker's briefcase was a fake, but the others could have easily taken it, right? (I could be wrong here)
Actually, wait a sec, my previous comment might have been totally wrong because I forgot about the part where (ENDING SPOILERS):
The briefcase was a fake. That means, when the framing device catches up, Joker was clearly forgetting stuff since that was before the plan to trick Akechi had been executed... I guess? So they actually did steal Sae's treasure? I'm gonna have to go back and watch some clips.
Hoo boy. They're really dropping the ball with the first part of the 6th Palace.
You get a sweet casino level and the first half hour of it is spent trudging through bland back hallways, then you actually have to gamble, which involves more bland back hallways.
wow, if you decide to start a replationship with an older lady, they kinda give a hint that you actually slept with them. Kinda ballsy especially after the incident with Kamoshida and girls your age.
I'd bet money that almost no one even considered the hypocrisy of it. Many of the female confidants aren't even girls your age, with there being no clubs to join and
Actually, wait a sec, my previous comment might have been totally wrong because I forgot about the part where (ENDING SPOILERS):
The briefcase was a fake. That means, when the framing device catches up, Joker was clearly forgetting stuff since that was before the plan to trick Akechi had been executed... I guess? So they actually did steal Sae's treasure? I'm gonna have to go back and watch some clips.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure they did. Definitely not 100% but I was under the impression that Joker was the decoy and one of the others made off with her treasure.
I'd bet money that almost no one even considered the hypocrisy of it. Many of the female confidants aren't even girls your age, with there being no clubs to join and
the problem wasnt just the age thing, (hell that doesnt even come up I think?), it was that it was against their will, which clealy it is not with the MC and whatever lady he romances.
but still, like I said, its the "nice.gif" mentality
Yeah, I'm pretty sure they did. Definitely not 100% but I was under the impression that Joker was the decoy and one of the others made off with her treasure.
wow, if you decide to start a replationship with an older lady, they kinda give a hint that you actually slept with them. Kinda ballsy especially after the incident with Kamoshida and girls your age.
Actually, wait a sec, my previous comment might have been totally wrong because I forgot about the part where (ENDING SPOILERS):
The briefcase was a fake. That means, when the framing device catches up, Joker was clearly forgetting stuff since that was before the plan to trick Akechi had been executed... I guess? So they actually did steal Sae's treasure? I'm gonna have to go back and watch some clips.
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