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Persona Community Thread |OT4| The Golden Number
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Oh. Well that's good then because I'm there.
I thought it was lower level than King Frost.Maybe it's because P4 is the only one I've beaten, but
Going into two dungeons based on murderers' minds and everything about December 3rd
I'd say P4 is much more about contrasts than the other games in the series. Like, P3 is pretty uniformly dreary with some bright spots, and the same goes for P2 (although that gets silly at times) and what I've played of 3. P4 has a lot of bright points, but that just makes the dark stuff more effective and have more meaning. So I actually prefer P4's dark.
Parts of P4 are very dark for sure. But even compared to P3 the overall tone is much lighter. And now that I'm mostly through P1P I feel comfortable saying that it was even darker in the past.
The tone of P1 and 2 definitely feels closer to the other MegaTen games, imo. Which also means darker.
Sort of. Nocturne is similarly post-apoc Tokyo, although in a kind of different way. The other games are all different. Raidou takes place in the thirties, Soul Hackers is the 90s OVA cyberpunk future, etc.
Out of all the Persona games P4 is definitely the "feel good" Persona game.
The tone of P1 and 2 definitely feels closer to the other MegaTen games, imo. Which also means darker.
You could also make the argument that even Persona 3 is considerably more darker than Persona 4.
Don't forget that SMT IF... takes place right before Persona 1.
You gets off pretty easy for a Persona protag too.
Yeah, P4's probably the most cheerful (but not entirely as I said) Persona game. There's nothing wrong with preferring 1, 2, or 3's tone, but it really annoys me when people are like "P4 is cheerful! Not mature enough!" Because you can only be mature while being angsty I guess.That wasn't aimed at anyone here, by the way. Just a general annoyance.
buddha0991
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Not AS dark, but still. Combine modern Persona 3/4 with shades of the darkness in SMTIV...kind of. P1 and ESP P2 can get really wacky though...but yea.
Yeah. P2 IS's tone especially kind of ping pongs between being pretty dark and incredibly wacky. EP's feels more tonally consistent, which I like.
Well, SMT can be pretty goofy at times (I always get a kick out of the demons just casually chillin' in Nocturne), but a lot of the games have a more oppressive feel than you see in a lot of JRPGs.
I think this chart helps put some perspective on how different SMT protagonists came out in the end.
http://www.siliconera.com/2010/11/23/an-assessment-of-shin-megami-tensei-protagonist-endings/
http://www.siliconera.com/2010/11/23/an-assessment-of-shin-megami-tensei-protagonist-endings/
P1 is similar to P3 I guess. Highschool kids in bigger Japanese city, they even name drop places like Shinjuku in it.
buddha0991
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I think this chart helps put some perspective on how different SMT protagonists fared in the end.
http://www.siliconera.com/2010/11/23/an-assessment-of-shin-megami-tensei-protagonist-endings/
Neat idea but its missing some protagonists.
Tell us buddha....tell us who it's missing
The tone of P1 and 2 definitely feels closer to the other MegaTen games, imo. Which also means darker.
Err I would argue Persona created for more quirky approach for Megaten.
You won't have character like in P1 in Mainline SMT.
Tell us buddha....tell us who it's missing
The protagonist of NINE. Duh.
That's true. I'm talking more in degree. As far as the Persona series goes, the earlier ones feel tonally closer to other Megaten than the later ones to me.
I thought about that too. But with the exception of Narukami, and Nakajima, the rest of the SMT games generally follow a trend of some sort catch 22 in the end.
Meaning that no matter which side you're on, there are always some consequences in the end (good and bad).
A lot of the heavier context been lost because the way they juxtapose some of the p4 themes and the cultural differences. A six month unsolved serial murder case in a small town isn't exactly taken lightly in Japan.
Not really. I feel like it's something you'd need a good understanding of the different plots to appreciate.
buddha0991
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Tell us buddha....tell us who it's missing
Devil Survivor 2 Guy (Bunny)
Strange Journeyman
Flynn of SMTIV
Maya Amano of Persona 2 Eternal Punishment
I know I can faintly see Male Tamaki Uchida from SMT If... but female is canon and they should put Tamaki in a spot there cuz She/He does have a canon ending and such.
Green Mamba
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I don't think one would be taken lightly in any small town, regardless of nation.
No, she said she a fucked a comic, in reference to her husband. Keith Arem is married. She actually mentioned his wife more than him. XD
The problem is if you recognize one character, you're gonna immediately relate it to the other in category and thus get thrown to spoiler.
See: Makoto
buddha0991
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Hence why OG P4 players found her a little bit boring
You gonna love Elizabeth then.
Oh yeah. I'm not a big fan of Marie, but if she does bring one good thing to the table, it's that she's made Margaret a much more entertaining character.
Well obviously she's supposed for being serious secretary type in contrast of Elizabeth, with addition of Marie.. they could expand her sarcastic side.
Lollipop Dave
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Ha, I look forward to listening to it!
This got me thinking, Elizabeth's date requests suffer a lot from the presentation in P3P. They go from really funny and charming to almost completely flat. The little animations make them.
Alice, iirc.
True. The presentation hurts a lot of the story and character moments in P3P.
Which is why everyone wants a P3P Vita port. :3
buddha0991
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only if it comes with a Persona: The Dateless Years release, with the best versions of P1/2IS/2EP!
Thanks. I don't think I have the time to collect the three skill cards I need, but if I can get their personas registered in the compendium, subsequent playthroughs will see me obtain them and have Izanagi invincible. As it is if I were to fuse the Ultimate Persona, I'd actually be losing levels and stats, haha.
Not everyone...
buddha0991
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Phantasmal Repose
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I want to believe.