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Persona Community Thread |OT4| The Golden Number
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Wimp.
Oh my. I was just thinking a ham salad
SloaneRisette
Member
I dunno about you but I can't eat 10k+ calories in one sitting!
Persona 1
I told Maki, I told her like seven times I was like "We don't have time to go to the mall. Your
is fucked up, my
is fucked up, and we should fix this stuff."
We still went to the Mall because Fred is whipped and Mark is thirsty as fuck. And now
I told Maki, I told her like seven times I was like "We don't have time to go to the mall. Your
universe
universe
We still went to the Mall because Fred is whipped and Mark is thirsty as fuck. And now
we can't leave the Mall.
Liz needs some help dammit.
Welcome to the best part of the game. Wait no, WORST part of the game. I always get those words confused.
SloaneRisette
Member
When you pick Liz the game automatically loads Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 in the new version.
And the only characters you're allowed to use are Morrigan, Dr. Doom, and Vergil.
I understand nerfing the boss character, but Liz is just hard to watch.
SloaneRisette
Member
I find it hilarious too because I know that she's not that great, but the average (dumb) online Liz against me on netplay is like an 8-2 matchup in their favor.
Damn my constantly rushing in and having no projectile moves while they just Ziodyne ;_;
Liz is weird with how she's the worst character, but she's really hard to fight against for new players/people inexperienced with the match up.
That's (probably) why they nerfed her Maziodyne. It was one of her strongest tools, but it was a total scrub killer.
SloaneRisette
Member
I am at that part too! Yay!
Vox Chaotica
Member
Smeffy-kun confirmed for filthy casual~
LelouchViBritannia
Member
i think the biggest noob killer is kanji.
(Trigger warning)
Not necessarily nerfed, though. Chie can low profile it with her 2A (which is risky), but Liz at least isn't vulnerable for forever after 236A. Same for 236B.
Despite her nerfs, she'll still be someone that inexperienced players will have a lot of trouble with because of Thanatos. And the nature of her supers. Her weaknesses are only really relevant in experienced play.
So, because people are notoriously bad at interpreting sprites, what is Aki doing? Is she lifting a cup above her head, or is she pointing an evoker at her head? I really can't tell.
And on the one hand, it's painfully obvious what the deal is with Aki. On the other hand, I said the same thing about Shadow Jesus.
And on the one hand, it's painfully obvious what the deal is with Aki. On the other hand, I said the same thing about Shadow Jesus.
buddha0991
Member
You are now at the worst dungeon in the game.
Not only is this one the one with the most annoying layout, you get to the end, and you get kicked out, and have to do the whole dungeon again. You cannot avoid this, I am warning you ahead of time.
TurnipFritters
Member
(Trigger warning)
i don't think trigger worked on persona 4 arena
That subway with the directional floors was already BS. But I guess I'll take a minute to grind so I can have two Megido users before going too far in this dungeon, I guess.
ASW needs to make a KLK fighter though.
Red The Hunter
Member
Oh thank goodness they nerfed that skill, I hated that I would keep getting Elizabeth's that would just spam that skill to no end.
Phantasmal Repose
Member
i think the biggest noob killer is kanji.
Well, he is a grappler.
LelouchViBritannia
Member
Just when you thought Mitsuru couldn't get any more annoying......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANBYvLdlxgI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANBYvLdlxgI
She's be able to spam it more in P4U2.
I didn't know DSP liked Persona.
I was mostly joking with that image, since it enraged with Elizabeth mains.
Maziodyne did get noticeable nerfs, however. Both versions of Maziodyne have more startup and recovery time, and significantly less active frames overall.
You're thinking of it's awakening version, which have less start up and less recovery.
No, I'm not. The number of active frames Maziodyne lasts for doesn't mean much in terms of spam potential if the opponent was blocking during its first frame or not. Either they'll block during the course of it or get hit, because nothing else is happening except for the beam.
The new 236A has one more frame of startup and 64 frames of total recovery instead of 50, but it now has -14 frame advantage compared to -35, which means Elizabeth won't just be standing there for a long time, vulnerable, while the opponent gets to rapidly close the gap and punish her. One frame of extra startup isn't much, so that means an opponent who had a hard time getting around her Maziodyne spam before will have an even harder time in P4AU because she is able to act again that much faster.
There's the fact that it's slimmer and that it has less base damage, but I'm just talking about how much she can get out of spamming her 236A here. It being slimmer and having less recovery frames would mean that opponents would be able to dodge it more easily by well timed high jumps/double jumps, but I imagine that if the opponent could do that, they wouldn't have much trouble with Liz Maziodyne P4A spam in the first place.
Just to be clear, by "not necessarily nerfed", I meant that it's not a straight nerf with everything being worse and no redeeming factors to it. A lot of P4U2 balance changes in terms of frame data are like that.
SloaneRisette
Member
Damn
LelouchViBritannia
Member
Who are going to be your mains in ultimax?
SloaneRisette
Member
Akihiko as per usual. I'll try out Yukari and Junpei to see if I like how they play, though.
ScraftyDevil
Banned
Junpei and The PUNisher for me. I might still dabble in Kanji and Teddie, but they're gonna be yesterday's news the second the game hits.
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It's all moot anyways because who knows what's going to happen with the new version.
LelouchViBritannia
Member
Ill probably stick to Yu and Yukiko. Ill give shadow Sho and Yukari a try though.
Im really hoping they announce Margaret and Adachi.
Im really hoping they announce Margaret and Adachi.
buddha0991
Member
I'm sticking with my main for sure
If I take on a secondary or two will remain to be seen!
If I take on a secondary or two will remain to be seen!
Reanimatoin
Member
I'm a jack of all trades, master of none.
I'll give all the new guys a turn, see if any of them take my fancy.
But if none do, then it'll be Yu, Yukiko, Kanji, Labrys, Yosuke on rotation.
I'll give all the new guys a turn, see if any of them take my fancy.
But if none do, then it'll be Yu, Yukiko, Kanji, Labrys, Yosuke on rotation.
I wanna try out Yukari, but I'll probably stick with Aigis and Shadow Labrys (character.)
LelouchViBritannia
Member
Im trying to learn Aigis at the moment, but she takes an extreme amount of skill. Hopefully, i can get her down to a reasonable standard by the time ultimax arrives.
I really like playing as Yu, and he looks to be even better in Ultimax, so him. I sub Yukiko and Yosuke, so I want to mess around with them too. Sho also looks hella cheap too, so I gotta try him out.
They made Aigis a little bit easier Ultimax.
Yukari for sure.
SloaneRisette
Member
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LelouchViBritannia
Member
im definitely going to experiment with Sho. He looks like a 100% rushdown character, which is fine with me.
I also dig his character design, unlike Labrys.
I also dig his character design, unlike Labrys.
