Nightengale
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DAN is going to be the swan song for the Investigation Group after all, as we move onto a new generation of husbandos and waifus.
Well,until P5Arena, where we see older police-cop Chie and stuff.
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DAN is going to be the swan song for the Investigation Group after all, as we move onto a new generation of husbandos and waifus.
Well,until P5Arena, where we see older police-cop Chie and stuff.
Such as Kanji=locking, Chie=Kung Fu, Yukiko=ballerina etc?
Correct. Because each character is so different, they can't just swap models like the Diva games. For a given track like Pursuing my True Self, they are going to need to have kung fu, ballet, modern, and teddie steps to accomodate all the characters. So in some cases, the choreography might not match the song, if they allow any character on any track.
Otherwise you may only be playing as Yosuke in certain songs, Yukiko in others, and so forth.
Reanimatoin
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Called it!
Yosuke has some moves on him, I like the fact that he doesnt care about looking lame anymore, keeping that P4 development!
It would be nice if at least in the Free Dance mode you could use every character for each song and they would still use their characteristic dance style.
MudoSkills
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I'd imagine that customisation is limited to outfit and accessories rather than switching characters up - especially as with it being story driven, each song will have a specific person attached to it.
ShadowSoldier89
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probably for the best, keeps me from just using Naoto for every song
I totally didn't call it:
I did think it was going to be Yosuke today, though... but that's why I guessed differently.
Yeah, I think this is looking more likely than the Project Diva model, since everyone will have a remarkably distinct dance style. It'd be insane to see that choreographed for each different song, especially when you consider duets. I wonder if this could mean there will be certain characters who are never paired together in a dance, though.
Hey... were there character silhouettes in the "Coming Soon" boxes before? I must have totally glossed over that.
Second one is Sho.
ShadowSoldier89
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Haha, I was kidding. Looking at the official art, the first one's clearly Yukiko and the second one is Naoto.
Oh! Well, still, looking at those three obvious blank spots that will eventually be character spots, it'd be really crazy if Marie wasn't one of them.
ShadowSoldier89
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shhh, I was trying to extend it
CrimsonFist
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Lollipop Dave
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I hope that's not the case.
Each song has a different choreographed dance in Project Diva that is associated with the suggested module, but any module can then be inserted into the song. Of course, this all depends on wherever the characters and their associated dance types are based on the story mode, meaning that in free mode you can swap out the model for another one (The dance stays the same).
If that's not the case and what you're saying is true (which I slightly agree with you, I'm just proposing a counter suggestion), it would suck, and in my opinion, devalue the customization a little. Everyone likes to play as their favourite character.
Actually, is there even a 'free' mode? I can't remember.
A Dead Diehard
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Shit, don't scare me like that...
MudoSkills
Volcano High Alumnus (Cum Laude)
Kanji doing Yukiko's routine...
I can imagine the step.
I can imagine the step.
There is a Free Mode. But for the rest of what you're saying...
Even when there's a "suggested character" in Project Diva, there's no real dissonance when one character does another's routine because of how those characters are. But in this, each character's personality is completely transparent with how they dance, and—knowing that songs are in fact represented by different characters—stuff like Nanako doing Kanji's routine or Yosuke doing Kanami's just wouldn't work (at all).
They made great efforts for the characters' choreography, it seems, from the Wada interview. They even got different people to dance for each character, so those different people would then probably have to do choreography for each song in the game... and then one would have to consider duets, and everything else that would go along with that. It sounds like an absurd amount of work. It's a bummer it probably means one won't get to choose the character they want for each song, but I also like that it means that the characters' dance styles are, in fact, unique, and that the performances with a song won't be the type to be easily copy/pasted between the cast.
Lollipop Dave
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Yep, which is why I said I kinda agree with you.
I was just throwing it out there as a 'don't dismiss it till we know for sure' type of thing, depends how 'open' a free mode will be. For story mode, sure, it makes sense, but in a free mode? There's no need to keep a restraint on personalities and the like.
I don't see why they would need to get each person to dance for each song. Depending on how they do the animation, couldn't they apply the models to the animations 'skeleton'? (my terminology sucks, I'm no animator, but hopefully you get what I mean)
I would hope that such would be possible in a free mode, just for all the fun possibilities. But I don't know how they would reconcile Teddies and Nanako's moves to other characters, since their frames are so different.
Yeah, I guess we shouldn't come to conclusions yet since we don't have any kind of confirmation. This is what Wada said about Free Dance mode.
CrimsonFist
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The "Free Dance" menu screen has Dance! selected and shows Yu, who is the dancer for that song next to it, and none of the button prompts on that menu are to change dancers. Not that that completely rules out that option though, although with how different each character's style is, I can't see us being able to swap them out.
Lollipop Dave
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That second quote makes sense for story mode, it would be weird to say have Naoto do line dancing, etc..
I'll just leave it till we hear more about the free mode. I just hope it isn't as locked down as people think it will be.
Why do you have to ruin my hopes & dreams ;_;
Cannon_Fodder
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I forget, did they ever say how duets work? Or any specific details on duets?
I suspect we'll be having at least one more character announced, possibly two. We know Nanako is announced, so that puts us at 10. The way they stagger the character portraits in rows of 3 suggests either 11 or 12 characters. Otherwise they would do two columns of five rows of 2 characters when designing the site.
I'll go with Marie as my guess, the easy one, and Margaret. Unless they count human Teddie as another character since he'd need different moves.
I'll go with Marie as my guess, the easy one, and Margaret. Unless they count human Teddie as another character since he'd need different moves.
They seem to be hinting at two OCs from Kanamin Kitchen. Accounting for those?
Cameras should not make humans physically ill, let alone robots.
My only experience is Project Diva, but in those games you could replace the characters with another one. Mind you, in those the songs were actually sung by the characters, and it didn't change the music or dance.
Green Mamba
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He's never in any of the spinoffs.
DryEyeRelief
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On the P4D official site they associate each song with a "main character".
Perhaps all characters can dance to every song, but the main character has specialized choreography to that song while everyone else has something generic?
Dojima + Nanako dance, why would you pass on this Atlus?
Since they announced Yu's Dojima outfit, I wrote off Dojima's shot in this.
Green Mamba
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Because middle-aged men don't sell to a P4 idol dancing spinoff's target audience.
He hardly gets any recognition from the main games. Poor guy.
UltraGunner
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What would Dojima's Idol outfit even be? He's an older guy so I'm maybe guessing he'll dress like Ken Yokoyama from CKB.
That's very likely. Like I said, it'd be consistent with how other rhythm games like Project Diva are like.
But it's the same choreography in Project Diva for each character in a song, not different ones. That suggestion would mean that, in addition to a song's main character's choreography, a second, generic one would need to be made that fits with each other character, for every single song. That'd be way more work.
CrimsonFist
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You also have issues like Nanako not fighting presumably restricting which dances she could be used in.
Personas factor in somehow too, which would also limit her participation as well.
We don't actually know the full extent of how much more work it'd be. For that matter, we don't actually know how far the extent of the unique moves go either.
Or hell, maybe Yosuke just bursts into ballerina moves when he dances a song meant for Yukiko.
That'd be hilarious, actually....
When each of the characters have their own choreographers assigned to them? I think it's fair to assume it'd be a lot of work, the way Wada's been talking about how much effort they've put into accurately representing the characters' dance styles.
.... I will hold you responsible if you shatter my delusional dreams of Yosuke dancing to ballerina, Flux. ò.ó
Realistically, they'll just use the same choreography.
One solution would just be to split the dances into male and female. I'd be fine with that.
Aadrian1234
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Oh man, how did i miss this while skimming over PGAF last night? So adorable!
Also, i think i like Yosuke's dancing style the most so far.
All four of the styles we've seen so far are too pop idol-y for me. I hope the other characters move a bit further away from that. Obviously, it'll all be pop dancing, but you know, it can be a sliding scale.
cj_iwakura
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I hope P5's OST has a saxophonist. The man kills it during Akasaka Blitz.
cj_iwakura
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I think they've yet to top Akasaka's version of Heaven.
Oh yeah, in addition to the Battle Royale (w/ violence) option on Q26 of Atlus' survey:
Wish there was some time to expect for announcements. It's nearing the end of the first quarter and Atlus is going to be having a company briefing on March 26th (though I think that one's mainly for new recruits), but we might not hear about any new projects of theirs until P5's out.
Pepsiman pointed out that option 13, which I translated to "Fighting a myriad of gods and demos that appear in myths and legends", sounds like Musou:
Another potential window into what they might have planned.
Wish there was some time to expect for announcements. It's nearing the end of the first quarter and Atlus is going to be having a company briefing on March 26th (though I think that one's mainly for new recruits), but we might not hear about any new projects of theirs until P5's out.
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