Yeah, you're definitely in the final stretch. What's your time been so far?
Oh, and what'd you think of the third stratum?
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Yeah, you're definitely in the final stretch. What's your time been so far?
Oh, and what'd you think of the third stratum?
ShadowSoldier89
Member
Im pretty sure you are in the minority. Chie and Naoto especially make you feel like a huge asshole
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Naoto made me a little shitty, seeing that she's saying that she feels like she knows the truth but doesn't want to know to avoid the hurt.
I mean you feel kinda shitty altogether because it's a pretty shitty thing to do anyway, but the final together with the guys felt like the appropriate punchline.
Also pretty much how I feel canon narukami would deal with things.
MiguelMexMIstery
Member
I didn't like Naoto's because the way she talks about it. I feel it's like "Hey remember Naoto's a detective? Cuz she can talk like one when talking about her feelings!"
I'm at like, 60 hours or so.
And I'm fucked on floor 3. It's where nightmares live.
You continue to be history's greatest monster
I'm pretty sure they referred to what we are fighting as Personas. Don't know why though.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Welp, just blasted through the whole thing.
Putting it on very easy and just ignoring everything other than the bosses was a fairly pleasant way to play it.
Overall I'd say yes, this was the definitive edition, but I dunno if it's just me being a curmudgeon by feeling that some cohesiveness was lost by tacking on so much more. Though I did enjoy most of the additions. Marie's stuff though felt somewhat disconnected to me, both with how her social link was handled and the way it fits into the story.
Think I'll move onto persona 2 now.
Putting it on very easy and just ignoring everything other than the bosses was a fairly pleasant way to play it.
Overall I'd say yes, this was the definitive edition, but I dunno if it's just me being a curmudgeon by feeling that some cohesiveness was lost by tacking on so much more. Though I did enjoy most of the additions. Marie's stuff though felt somewhat disconnected to me, both with how her social link was handled and the way it fits into the story.
Think I'll move onto persona 2 now.
After acquiring tarot cards you're able to summon additional persona. That has always been the case. But the line between demon and persona is pretty thin altogether. The ones you awaken are always personae and they are probably my favorite moments in the persona series.
Because Personas and demons are not the same and just because you see them fighting a Persona doesn't automatically make it a "demon".
Probably just a Persona from the collective unconcious rather than tied to any one specific person.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
monsters all of you...makes me feel bad just reading it
I meant I dont know why we are fighting Personas. Hasn't been explained.
A Dead Diehard
Member
Not gonna lie, kinda peeved the scenes are pretty much just self-pity and no calling the MC out on his shit.
In general or are we talking about Persona 5?
I'll probably mix them up again at some point sorry.
That seems about what I expected. They seem heavy handed and awkward, like I said before.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
outside of Chie, I kind've expect self pity from each of them.
I like to imagine MC gets the point after that one, then only has 2 girls because no one ever knows about him and Marie
Demon contact should never return to Persona. While I think that talking with demons is kinda fun, it also gets incredibly tedious if you have to say the same stuff over and over and over.
A Dead Diehard
Member
Not to mention that mainline SMT already has that covered. Persona's more about talking to those who aren't trying to kill you.
I'll never get bored of Tatsuya's imitations. Anyway since they're referred to as personas there's zero chance about that happening.
I think that's one thing that bothers me about most of the romances in P4. It's not just this scene but almost all of them place the MC as more "powerful" than them in the relationship and seek validation from him in some way. Rise is the only one I can think of that tells you how things are gonna be rather than just look to you for everthing and ask for validation to be themselves. I mean Naoto asks to change herself for you which is...not so great.
I honestly don't think it's fun at all even in SMT. It just serves as an extra barrier from getting you new stuff. Much more convenient to just get them in a shuffle.
Ulala almost makes P2:EP worth playing. Almost.
Eternal Punishment is the P2 that doesn't suck eggs, though
Andrefpvs
Member
I'd have something like this:
With the ridiculously high popularity of Yo-Kai Watch and Pokémon in Japan, I wouldn't be surprised if they took some ideas from those games to try and get some of that audience.
Even without considering this a business strategy, I think it would make Persona acquisition more fun, instead of relying on the current chance minigame.
Demon negotiation or getting random cards, in my opinion, just isn't very fun. That "Pokémon" feeling of going into a battle and "Holy shit, it's Jack Frost! I want him!" and achieving that through actual battle sounds much more appealing.
- Change Persona acquisition to "Persona capture" (it even fits in with the "thieves" motif of the game -- literally stealing Personas from the dungeons)
- Have the option to capture a low-health Persona/Demon/whatever when you're fighting it, adding a new mechanic to battles. Use elemental weaknesses/status changes to make it easier to capture.
With the ridiculously high popularity of Yo-Kai Watch and Pokémon in Japan, I wouldn't be surprised if they took some ideas from those games to try and get some of that audience.
Even without considering this a business strategy, I think it would make Persona acquisition more fun, instead of relying on the current chance minigame.
Demon negotiation or getting random cards, in my opinion, just isn't very fun. That "Pokémon" feeling of going into a battle and "Holy shit, it's Jack Frost! I want him!" and achieving that through actual battle sounds much more appealing.
KenjiGlove
Banned
Hey I'm new here.
Anything is better then the current way of aquiring personas, it's really bland.
I do enjoy demon negotiations though, it adds character to the demons and the randomness of it makes it so that you can get all kinds of wierd and memorable encounters.
Anything is better then the current way of aquiring personas, it's really bland.
I do enjoy demon negotiations though, it adds character to the demons and the randomness of it makes it so that you can get all kinds of wierd and memorable encounters.
Reanimatoin
Member
That's pretty awesome! Shame I know NOTHING about fatal frame in order to have a true appreciation of it, but still, awesome picture nonetheless.
Howdy! Inevitably someone will post that 'you're here forever' image.
In the meantime......... newcomers quiz!
This is a ridiculously good idea.
Could you imagine rolling through the lategame dungeon when all of a sudden you find
Jesus christ, I need to get him, RIGHT NOW. Okay, so it turns out he's tough. No biggie, if I get him down to 15%~ I can catch him for sure. Just one more hit and...
Ryouji scored a critical hit.
Navigator: The battle is over, way to go guys!
She's a new character in Fatal Frame 5, so I know nothing about her either, haha! I just drew it because she reminded me a lot of Naoto.
That legitimately looks like something Naoto would actually wear. Good job!
I think I proposed stealing as a mechanic to get tarot cards (items, money, bonus xp, healing, personas) some time back. It'd be a pretty awesome system, even if it does emulate Pokemon a bit.
KenjiGlove
Banned
1) What is your favorite persona character?
Yosuke: most likeable and relatable character. Even his gimmicky character traits like his relationship with Saki is implemented nicely in all the P4 spinoffs
2) favorite persona game
Persona 3 Portable: i prefer P3's story and characters over P4 and the new features (FemC, better social links and being handheld) are improvements over FES
3) favorite persona song
Memories of you
4) favorite persona scene
Making an omelette with the P4 girls
5) favorite persona
Tam lin
6) favorite s.link
All the new P3P s.links (especially Rio, Soari, Junpei and Akihiko)
I also like Temperance in P4
7) What are your thoughts on the P4D trailers
I'm only digging the dance styles of Narukami, Rise and Yosuke. I'm interested in Naoto's trailer.
Chet Rippo
Member
Trying to catch this River Guardian is going to be the death of me. I feel like my sanity is slipping further and further away...
Nice! I thought it was P3MC before I finished scrolling down the page...
Welcome KenjiGlove!
cj_iwakura
Member
Ulala almost makes P2:EP worth playing. Almost.
It's like you want to start that up again...
Just some mean spirited teasing on my part, don't worry.
No but real talk Ulala is a gem.
cj_iwakura
Member
Whoever did that knew what was up. Purple wallpaper.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
your shading is brilliant, though the flat texture of the pants looks off
Andrefpvs
Member
Welcome! I agree, anything is better than what we have.
I honestly don't care much for negotiation because I never cared for the demons as characters themselves. It's a bit of a contrast to have a nice chat with someone who is otherwise trying to murder you. I can totally understand why some people like it, though, some of those things are charming.
Thanks! I've been thinking about this ever since the Nippon Budokan event, it would be so cool and add so much to the battles. They could even tweak the Persona Compendium info pages (you know, this) to be accessible more easily and include a ???/Seen/Owned Persona list (like a Pokédex, lol) in order to encourage collecting.
Yep! I need to stop getting excited about this, especially since it's by no means confirmed. But it would indeed be awesome.
Oh, and awesome drawing, Dantis!
Cannon_Fodder
Member
How do you think capturing personas would be impacted by fusion? All of the most interesting personas would (presumably) be obtainable through fusion exclusively, so would capturing them eventually become more of a pain than a thrill? I just don't know if I'd feel excited trying to catch a persona, even a cool one, if I'm just planning to use it as fusion fodder anyway. What do you guys think?
UltraGunner
Banned
I was never a fan of demon negotiation. It was always just by randomness that you can recruit demons. At least in Persona 1 the demons had personalities that you can exploit.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Man, despite the terrible CG I think I prefer the original Intro of Innocent Sins compared to the remake.
Do you have the Triangle Button? I don't know that it is possible to catch either Guardian without that skill unlocked.
I still love P4 more but this puts you in the instant brobox, so grats
I love the comment about "Eat your hamburgers, Apollo."
The only good thing I can say about Demon Negotiation in Persona is that at least there was a wheel to tell you how close to success/failure you were.
cj_iwakura
Member
Everyone does. Thankfully EP PSP's OP ditched the 'let's try to be P3' crap and stuck to the original's guns.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Don't have the PSP remake of EP though.
Hope the PS1 version holds up.
Hope the PS1 version holds up.
cj_iwakura
Member
It does. Atlus did a great localization back then, too.
It's better than the PSP version of Innocent Sin, anyway.
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