Silver Arrows
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You realize like maybe, 3 people (myself included) would understand this in this thread, right?
I don't care. The point still stands.
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Persona Community Thread |OT7| P5 is nyaow. (Mark all PQ and P4U spoilers!)
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I don't care. The point still stands.
Aadrian1234
Banned
Persona 5 just took The Last Guardian's place, it seems.
Sarcasm aside, i want to know what Atlus is thinking for marketing. Because they missed a big opportunity at E3, i really want to know what's going in their minds not showing Persona 5 off to the West after Persona has just started to pick up traction over here
Sarcasm aside, i want to know what Atlus is thinking for marketing. Because they missed a big opportunity at E3, i really want to know what's going in their minds not showing Persona 5 off to the West after Persona has just started to pick up traction over here
We aren't getting anything new though. We just gotta wait the 10 days.
CrimsonFist
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They'll have a year at least attached to whatever trailer they have at their booth tomorrow Maybe wait to see that before being pessimistic.
Now if the pv 02 doesnt have a specific date release im going to be mad.
But the trailer is going to deliver and be the hype shit ever im pretty sure of that.
Silver Arrows
Banned
I seriously doubt that.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Even FF7 Remake happened......
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To be honest, while I'm not surprised that Persona 5 didn't show up, I am a little dissapointed.
CrimsonFist
Member
Well, release year at the very least.
Dunno, it probably wouldn't help much. People who have an affinity to these kind of games most likely already know about it, because it's the biggest thing in the JRPG scene right now. People who don't like these kind of games won't like it after they see a trailer.
I dunno, man. It's come to the point I've abandoned all assumptions when it comes to Persona 5. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if no English oriented trailer was uploaded at all, or if the end of that trailer didn't have any year whatsoever.
Silver Arrows
Banned
It's fairly obvious it's going to the PV #01 with some English subs thrown. I'm willing to bet money that there will be no date at the end.
Or they leave things like they have right a link to the japanese one and end of the story,
But seriously right now that people needs is release window , but i guess they going to say anything until Japan have one.
...You really sure you wanna bet that?
So far, your track record doesn't really support you.
/notserious
Silver Arrows
Banned
...You really sure you wanna bet that?
So far, your track record doesn't really support you.
/notserious
Like Flux says, this time the house is in my favor.
i know and thank god for that!
Xenoflare
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Yeah, as much as Persona grown it's influence in the west it's still contained within the niche.
It's kinda awkward for me to think the west would get something before Japan does.
Atlus USA is in a weird position.
They have a huge game everybody wants to know more about at the biggest gaming convention of the year, yet they are unable to show any new content for it.
The best they can do is probably show a localized version of the PV1 trailer.
They can't even have a specific "E3" trailer for P5 since of what little content we've seen of the game is being released by Atlus Japan first.
They have a huge game everybody wants to know more about at the biggest gaming convention of the year, yet they are unable to show any new content for it.
The best they can do is probably show a localized version of the PV1 trailer.
They can't even have a specific "E3" trailer for P5 since of what little content we've seen of the game is being released by Atlus Japan first.
Xenoflare
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I don't think they have much choice in this matter. Atlus is still very Japan-centric
Silver Arrows
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Which could burn Atlus JPN's fingers if they continue. Look at every other Japanese company. They know E3 is the big one. Why isn't Atlus following their lead?
I wonder if Hardin is fuming inside considering he's being constantly yanked on the leash by the parent company and unable to make the series bigger then it currently is. I know I would be.
Xenoflare
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I don't think going all out in the west is going to expand their influence in a significant way. Sorry to be a negative Nancy.
I understand the disappointment but Atlus is just not that big. Seeing them in a Prime E3 conference would actually be weird for me.
I think it's going to be in TGS 2015 for sure.
For Persona 5? It's not being a negative Nancy, it's just being wrong. Marketing is the key to awareness, and the Persona brand has been growing substantially in the West. This is fact, and a conference presence might not have been as Earth shattering as the holy trinity that was shown, but it would have been a big deal.
I don't get why people keep bringing up TGS when we're talking about Persona 5 for the North American market. Of course they've got Japan figured out; the game was revealed with a huge event over there that had people populate the streets in various cities to watch Persona games on huge screens.
It's like people don't think Persona 5 needs—or deserves—any kind of marketing for the Western side because "it already has its audience."
Silver Arrows
Banned
Thank you.
What the people trying to be devil's advocate's in this thread are missing is that giving barely a second to a spin off game on a dying platform is not good marketing, at all.
Though this is dependent on whether SCEA was even interested in Persona when they knew they had FFVII to whip the crowds up, and whether Atlus JPN was even interested in E3 aside from hauling the skeleton crew to the convention hall, which we now know they aren't.
Silver Arrows
Banned
Absolutely. Which makes it even more baffling.
Both Sony and Atlus have a ton of money left on the table considering how dire the first party exclusives are on PS4. Yet, nothing.
Which boggles my mind. Isn't the entire point of E3 to get audiences hyped on your product? something that isn't achieved in repeating a nearly 5 month old trailer and a split second in a montage?
Im had serious hope in the part they show Final Fantasy and Shenmue 3 , i was like "man they are showing japanese games in this section".
They dont even need a conference or presentation only show the frickin pv01 like they did with Street Fighter V.
Vox Chaotica
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I regret everything
Xenoflare
Member
I didn't say it's good marketing either. It's just kinda unrealistic to expect much exposure from a western event knowing how conservative Atlus is.
I think everyone here would love to see Persona 5 having a proper spotlight during E3, but I don't really have that high of an expectation for it.
And here we are.
Thanks Shia this exaclty what i need right now.
Now im like Dantis hoping the intro of Dancing All Night , and course some japanese dude leaks the bluray ... because this gonna be long 10 days.
And that gif ... damn.
cj_iwakura
Member
I think this is very telling.
Someone who used to work at Atlus USA said that.
Someone who used to work at Atlus USA said that.
ColossalLazy
Member
More like next week.
Xenoflare
Member
Ouch, I did not know that.
I mean, sure Atlus is conservative, but that is just mean.
Okay guys I'm sorry for not being angry about P5 showing at E3.
Really? Either way, I can see this explanation making sense.
holy crap
cj_iwakura
Member
He doesn't post here, but he's legit. And sadly, I believe it. Maybe this is why some of their long-term staff like Suzuki jumped ship.
No the same thing
Japanese release of p5 : in tracks , new traier coming all the hype into the TGS. And coming in the 2015 for sure
USA release of p5 : in the limbo waiting for AtlusJp- senpai give them some permission to show something. Release date unknown.
EDIT : OUCH ... scrach that Japan Atlus are assholes damn , poor Atlus USA. damn sorry for not believe.
Heavenly_Spear
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Maaann ya'll salty as fuck, chill, we'll get pleeenty of P5 news next week and beyond!
Xenoflare
Member
Stop it I prepared myself leading up to this point for not getting salty and disappointed and you are foiling it
Silver Arrows
Banned
Which makes me curious as to what kind of tension is between Atlus JPN and USA. Surely there's gotta be, considering the US branch has been treated like shit before. I can well imagine Atlus USA is livid right now.
These next months gonna be great here until October ... was it.
Damn i hope we have trailer for each character like Dancing all night or Persona Q,
And sorry Xenoflare.
Again, this is a weird point of attempting to be a Devil's advocate. The issue isn't the news; we know we're going to get P5 news real soon. The issue is actually what Makio is pointing out.
Most of us don't live in Japan, right? Most of us are going to get NA (and, heh, eventually EU) copies of Persona 5? Getting our info from Japan is good and all, but at some point we need it done directed at us, too. The fact that so many are still worried it's a 2015 game in North America is a testament to this.
Xenoflare
Member
It's fine, I was just joking, well at least partially.
I honestly wasn't aware about the tension between Atlus USA and the Atlus main branch.
And yes, I'm seeing Flux's point. It's more about the attitude (?) Having a trailer made just for e3 for the sake of formality is better than nothing at all.
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