Oh, and apparently the guy is making a series of these.
Finally got it.
Will return in 100 hours for waifu wars, PERSONA-GAF.
WELCOME TO THE VELVET ROOM
Creepy :>
Also, a tad disappointed the anime scenes have no subs. I'm half deaf
Seems like you should really like the Visual Novel style of P4G, then.
Thankfully, there aren't many anime scenes.
I think the groan the king's game scene elicited from me was picked up by US Geological Survey seismometers.The campout was admittedly terrible, but King's Game was objectively great.
Can't decide on a name ._.
Wasn't Yosuke's two bikini thing completely justified? I could've swore they had the excuse last year of not bringing their swimsuits with them.
What gets me is that Yosuke brought those bikini's to the trip in the event that they would owe him a favor.
His plan hinges on so many circumstances:
-Yukiko and Chie fucking up their meal plan
-Kanji being stupid/insecure enough to run out of the tent
-Yukiko and Chie being paired up with Hanako
(Note: He was directly responsible for #2, and arguable for #1)
I know it's a dumb gag scene, but when you really think about it, it's really fucked up. This is some Death Note level planning (and he got the right sizes, jesus christ)
Yosuke: Deplorable idiot, or brilliant mastermind?
The "goofy anime high schooler high-jinks" scenes tend to bring out the worst in P4. Campout, king's game, hot springs, just, ugh.
Do an English first name, and then enter the first Japanese name you can think of for your last name.
You can use the default Yu Narukami.. if you intend to play Arena and Arena Ultimax later.
I only hate that which deserves it.why do you hate everything
Good man. I was about to suggest something terrible, like Johnny Toyota or something. On second thought, I think I'll keep that one for P5.I went with Willem Inu.
What version and on what system are you playing?Also: is it normal to experience slight ghosting when characters move around?
I only hate that which deserves it.
Man I'll give you the hot springs stuff cuz every hot springs thing is the same ol shit every time, but the King's Game was funny. Especially Naoto getting more and more pissed off as it went along.
Naoto is the only tolerable aspect of that scene. Naoto's line "Are you a pack of complete imbeciles" is the only really good thing I took from it. Beyond that, it has the same problems I have with the camping trip and hotsprings, which was that it made me dislike the characters involved instead of endearing me to them.Man I'll give you the hot springs stuff cuz every hot springs thing is the same ol shit every time, but the King's Game was funny. Especially Naoto getting more and more pissed off as it went along.
What version and on what system are you playing?
I only hate that which deserves it.
Man I'll give you the hot springs stuff cuz every hot springs thing is the same ol shit every time, but the King's Game was funny. Especially Naoto getting more and more pissed off as it went along.
That's pretty consistent from my experience then.P4G, TV.
I'm not sure why that excuses something from being dumb.Yeah, it's almost like P4 is an anime game with high school characters or something...
That's pretty consistent from my experience then.
I'm not sure why that excuses it.
That's pretty consistent from my experience then.
I'm not sure why that excuses something from being dumb.
Aren't you overthinking this? I just took it as him wanting to see the girls in a swimsuit, knowing that they'd have the opportunity to swim at the school trip. He'd know that they'd make an excuse like "We forgot our swimsuits," so he got those as insurance. The rest just gave them more of a reason to concede.
Step 3: Flatter Yukiko into cooking despite knowing full well that her cooking is abysmal (thanks for the tip, partner)
Step 4: In the event that Chie decides to join in, take stomach medicine as an extra precaution
Step 7: Convince the teachers to pair up Hanako with the girls by stress that they're good friends. Bribes may be necessary.
Step 10: Deliver a homemade meal to Hanako's residence the day of the trip. The ingredients used in the meal can induce snoring.
Step 13: Set up our tent so that it faces the girl's tent (necessary for step 17)
Step 17: Manipulate Kanji into running into the girls tent by harping on his insecurities (EASY)
Step 19: Pretend to be annoyed by the girls request
Step 21: Get a good night's sleep
Step 22: The Promised Day
There's tonal consistency and there's genuine quality, and I wouldn't separate them out as you do. It's possible to be tonally consistent and at the same time not terrible, so I don't think it's that crazy to ask of more from Persona 4's attempts at anime humor. I mean, I don't think there's something inherently wrong with anime high school humor, so it's not like something being bad is ingrained in the genre's blood. So my statement on P4's anime humor scenes bringing out its worst was not a condemnation for the game trying its hand at it, but rather that its attempts fell flat. Like I said earlier, there's a method to dumb humor, and I don't think Persona nails that anywhere near as good as it is at being smart.It doesn't excuse it, but there's something about tonal consistency which is great in almost anything. I disliked the P4 bathing scene, but it was tonally consistent so I saw where it was coming from. I like the King's Game, and that was further heightened by how the tone made sense.
Heck, the entire game is an anime and some of those scenarios made sense given the context and fleshed it out.
I see the same types of complaints about how there should be women for you to kill in Uncharted. No, it shouldn't, that would be tonally inconsistent with its callbacks to Hollywood tropes and heroic story that Uncharted is known for. Some things realize what they are and are better for it.
Y'all don't like fanservice?
I know it's a dumb gag scene, but when you really think about it, it's really fucked up. This is some Death Note level planning (and he got the right sizes, jesus christ)
Yosuke: Deplorable idiot, or brilliant mastermind?
The problem with hot springs scenes is that they all play out the same exact way. Boys try to peep on the girls. Girls go "OOOH YOUR SKIN IS SO SOFT" and then "NOO DON'T TOUCH ME THERE"
Persona 4 does it twice. I mean, P3 does it, but at least they avoid some of those foibles, and they have the whole "try to not get killed" segment. Persona 4 manages to slip an important sort of clue into one of the two hot springs segments, but I just kind of wish that hot springs scenarios would play out with a modicum of originality.
The P3 hotsprings scene is almost completely devoid of fanservice. It's more comedy than anything. And the male members of SEES actually deserved what they got, where as the IT males did nothing wrong in the vanilla version of the scene. :\
Speaking of weapons, you thought Yosuke carrying bikinis was crazy? Eikichi just hands Maya a loaded gun. Straight up. Persona 2:IS is a goofy game, but that scene always struck me as goddamn hilarious.
Re: Hot spring scenes
Persona 1 manga has the best hot spring segment in the series. The guys end up yelling at the girls for annoying them. Like whoaaaaaaa
I'll readily admit that P3's hot spring was less awful than P4's, but it still had that basic set up of "boys try to peep on girls." And I mean, sure, that's high school. People in my high school were always dreaming up ways to get into the girl's showers (which I saw one time, and were full of boxes) but the whole thing loses its luster when every trip boils down to the same premise.
Speaking of weapons, you thought Yosuke carrying bikinis was crazy? Eikichi just hands Maya a loaded gun. Straight up. Persona 2:IS is a goofy game, but that scene always struck me as goddamn hilarious.
Re: Hot spring scenes
Persona 1 manga has the best hot spring segment in the series. The guys end up yelling at the girls for annoying them. Like whoaaaaaaa
What if it was backwards? Like the girls try to sneak a peek.
The campout was admittedly terrible, but King's Game was objectively great.
Haha I see what you did there. lolI went with Willem Inu.
Naoto is the only tolerable aspect of that scene. Naoto's line "Are you a pack of complete imbeciles" is the only really good thing I took from it. Beyond that, it has the same problems I have with the camping trip and hotsprings, which was that it made me dislike the characters involved instead of endearing me to them.
By and large I think Persona's better at being smart than it is at being "dumb."
EDIT: Fanservice in this context is the worst.
Haha I see what you did there. lol
Eikichi's guitar fires bullets.
There are stores all over Sumaru City carrying those same guitars.
I think Dantis was on to something
The campout is only bad at the bit with the swimsuits.
The King's Game is bad all the way through, and literally makes no sense, to the extent that even Atlus have acknowledged that it makes no sense (specifically, the characters being drunk but not actually).
Shifting gears. I'm at floor 4 of the Evil Spirit Club in PQ and I have a wild guess I'd like to take, Pat.
The dungeons reflect Rei's moods. You in Wonderland because she's a lost blonde girl in a weird world or something. When she starts getting all lovey dovey with Zen you go to the Group Date Cafe. At the bottom of that dungeon is a chest that has something that scares her. Her fear creates the Evil Spirit Club. Whatever mood she gets into by the end of this dungeon will lead to the next dungeon's tone.
So like, we're in some manner of Shadow World dungeon, but instead of it being like Maki's idealized Mikage-Cho, it's more like dungeons/clubs that reflect Rei's moods.
I'm probably way the fuck off, but as of where I'm at in the game, it makes a decent amount of sense.
Can't decide on a name ._.
Minor spoiler:You're on the right track, actually.
So i'm assuming the P4 story route plus true end is the canon story for Ultimax?
So i'm assuming the P4 story route plus true end is the canon story for Ultimax?
Man I'll give you the hot springs stuff cuz every hot springs thing is the same ol shit every time, but the King's Game was funny. Especially Naoto getting more and more pissed off as it went along.
The imbeciles line is her best in the entire game.
Concert at Taiyou Con was loads of fun! Got autographs afterwards and am having dinner now.
Lotus Juice solo concert tomorrow as well as meet and greet with Lotus Juice, Shihoko and Yumi.