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Perhaps he's wondering why someone would shoot a man before throwing him out of a plane.
Hey, I beat P3: The Journey (FES) earlier this year and plan on moving on to The Answer sometime soon. Roughly how long is The Answer?
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Yeah, so in the end everybody could be the traitor.
#Fantheoriesneverceasetoamazeme
snow in jamaica
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Dragon1893
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I think it took me over 20 hours, maybe even 30? It's been a while, not sure.
A Dead Diehard
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Longer than its welcome.
Best advice is keep your new party member levelled, else you're gonna have a worse time.
Some speculation/theories about the uses of leveling up the known Co-Operation Character's Arcana based on the latest Famitsu scans and prior knowledge about the characters.
IX:
X:
XII:
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XIII:
XV:
XVI:
XVII:
XVIII:
XIX:
I'm also going to theorize that Cooperation can be reversed/and/or broken in this game,
if it works similarly to what I guess then that would make
the game more challenging and give players even more reason to participate in Co-OP.
Anyone else wanna speculate what the other Arcana could power up?
IX:
Futaba Sakura - L'Hermite (The Hermit) Gain information about enemies strength and weaknesses
Chihaya Mifune - La Roue de Fortune (The Wheel of Fortune.) Enhances the Power of Third Eye to find better secrets and treasure.
Iwai Munehisa - Le Pendu (The Hanged Man) Acquire more powerful weapons
XIII:
Tae Takemi - L'Arcane sans nom (Death) Gain more HP/SP, Obtain healing and revival items. Increase the potency of healing buffs. Receive "Plume of Dusks"
Ichiko Oya - Le Diable (The Devil) Obtain hints about your next target, and earn cash.
Shinya Oda - La Maison Dieu (The Tower) Increase speed/accuracy of attacks by playing video games.
Hifumi Togo - L'Étoile (The Star) Relearn forgotten skills and learn exclusive skills during Penance. Update:
According to a reddit post ranking up this co-op grants the abilities to baton touch, escape battles, and switch party members during battle. Seems like if you dont do co-op youre gonna be at a severe disadvantage.
According to a reddit post ranking up this co-op grants the abilities to baton touch, escape battles, and switch party members during battle. Seems like if you dont do co-op youre gonna be at a severe disadvantage.
Yuuki Mishima - La Lune (The Moon.) Updates his website that helps increase your public reputation as the Phanton Theives.
Toranosuke Yoshida - Le Soleil (The Sun) Acquire abilities that enhance HOLD-UP rewards.
I'm also going to theorize that Cooperation can be reversed/and/or broken in this game,
if it works similarly to what I guess then that would make
the game more challenging and give players even more reason to participate in Co-OP.
Anyone else wanna speculate what the other Arcana could power up?
The translation video for Temperence/Sadayo Kawakami implies that
she will help you/cover for you if you skip school. I guess you could do other things during that time.
A Dead Diehard
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So relearning forgotten skills at the start, then learn better and better skills with each rank?
snow in jamaica
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Another consideration regarding
:
the traitor
They said there are multiple endings, right? Assuming they're more numerous and substantial than what we've seen before, maybe the traitor's identity depends on your playthrough.
I would really dislike this!
Writing something like that kind of event, to me, requires careful setup and follow through. Making everyone able to be the traitor would probably lesson the impact of any individual one betraying the group.
A Dead Diehard
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Agreed. True ending's the way to go. Anything else is just lacking progression.
I considered this but I dont know what sort of enhancements it could possibly give the player. Grinding during school hours? But why do that when you have MEMENTOS?
It's just speculation but I don't think we will acquire abilities after every rank. I think it will be after every other rank. Aka rank one you earn exp for the arcana, rank two you earn an ability, and so on. As for this particular arcana
It would be difficult to relearn skills you have forgotten at the beginning unless you can only have very few skills.
If this is a cooperation that's unlocked in late game it makes a lot more sense, and as for learning better skills, yes. It could maybe also allow you to learn skills that your persona can't naturally learn by leveling up or by fusion.
Anyway, yeah. My idea is basically what you said. xD.
If this is a cooperation that's unlocked in late game it makes a lot more sense, and as for learning better skills, yes. It could maybe also allow you to learn skills that your persona can't naturally learn by leveling up or by fusion.
Anyway, yeah. My idea is basically what you said. xD.
As for the discussion above, I agree. True ending is the way to go.
Btw this is random but I have a feeling this is going to be the most complex and the most dark Persona game yet. I mean its all about the human heart, emotions and desires, which can lead to some really dark places.Then there is the fact that the tarot card designs excude menace and terror. Even the ones that you'd think were uplifting. Like you see The Sun but it's all twisted and corrupt.
So I suspect this game will be a lot harder on our heartstrings than P3 and P4. It's probably gonna hurt. In a good way.
A Dead Diehard
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Or more time to do co-ops, or various activities like... fishing?
You know... if you hate your own joy.
You know... if you hate your own joy.
Don't forget that this is the same game which features a grown man flying through the air in a pink thong, the Morganna-mobile, and a character whose inner-self is a motorcycle. As serious as Persona 5 is, it's still going to be quite silly at points.
Satsuya K.
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Of course some are silly but it will show lot of controversial and darker themes that the previous games since P2 didn't show. Kamoshida lusting after teenage girls with Anne being his ideal 'sex slave' taking advantage of her loneliness which made her suffer a hell lot more with the rumors spreading throughout the school. Corrupt politicians that overshadowed the genunine. Society demands those to be like them or they don't exist at all. It's going to be a hell lot darker.
I think this depends on it you can complere all social links without hardly ever going to school. If you can why would you go if you didn't need to?
Also as far as silliness goes, those moments do not negate the dark ones. In fact, it's about balance. If there are more dark themes than their are stupid gags, which I absolutely think will be the case, then it'll still be a dark game. Elizabeth's silly requests in P3 to not deter the games more mature moments. Also, heart and desires can be silly as well as dark. There are even moments when it can be both simultaneously.
When looking at all the known plot and story elements, as well as the actual aesthetics of the game, the depth of the more serious elements greatly outweigh the immaturity.
We've seen a few fan servicy scenes, compared to the plethora of tortures the characters face so imo anything one would deem silly Is going to always be more highlighted because it'll stand out more when it appears in contrast to the more frequent seriousness. It works the same as vocal minorities with shit opinions. Yeah, they're louder but they're not the majority.
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Unrelated:
Hifumi co-op spoiler
according to a post on Reddit ranking her up grants you baton touch, escaping battles, and switching party members during battle.
Seems like if you don't do Co-Ops in this game you are gonna be at a severe disadvantage.
A Dead Diehard
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That sounds like some bullshit (the really dumb idea kind, not the blatant falsehood kind),
especially having escaping locked behind a co-op.
CrimsonFist
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Post I saw said during dungeons, not during battle, and just a higher chance to escape. Changing party members during battle has not been mentioned yet.
I would assume that basic functionality like baton touch would be from forced tutorial or rank 1 Co-ops. though. If they are locked behind them
I would assume that basic functionality like baton touch would be from forced tutorial or rank 1 Co-ops. though. If they are locked behind them
This is where I saw it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Persona5/comments/4uzadv/coops_are_more_important_than_i_thought/
Which leads to http://domi-persona.tumblr.com/post/148084741067/the-co-op-skills-wed-get-from-hifumi-togo-➊
which then leads to a Japanese blog as the source.
Anyway, another theory/speculation regarding Goro and Phantom Thieves based on the Famitsu screenshots.
I think that the Phantom Thieves go to the live show to either infiltrate Goro's heart in order to prevent him from gaining any progress in his investigation or they go there to try to recruit him as a member of their team. There's a screenshot where the PTOH are in the audience and Goro says something along the lines of "Firstly, humans should never twist the hearts of others against their will.", and it'll be kind of great to have the crew in the audience unknowingly to disrupt his plans.
Or it could be a trap that Goro set up and he knows they're in the audience which is why he's being so blunt. He's playing a game of cat and mouse, letting them know he knows they're there and he's gonna get 'em.
Or it could be a trap that Goro set up and he knows they're in the audience which is why he's being so blunt. He's playing a game of cat and mouse, letting them know he knows they're there and he's gonna get 'em.
CrimsonFist
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Huh, neat if mid battle changing is in then.
And according to that, next week's issue will detail "Everyone's Voice."
Reanimatoin
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Just a quick little dumb thing, but this is a COMMUNITY thread, so some community stuff should be here, right?
A few of us in the IRC have set up a plug.dj radio station of sorts. It's not strictly persona music, it's mainly video game osts, anime soundtracks, vocaloid stuff, you know, weeb shit.
Anyways, if you'd like to listen in or add some tracks of your own, join us at plug.dj/personagaf
A few of us in the IRC have set up a plug.dj radio station of sorts. It's not strictly persona music, it's mainly video game osts, anime soundtracks, vocaloid stuff, you know, weeb shit.
Anyways, if you'd like to listen in or add some tracks of your own, join us at plug.dj/personagaf
Saw this via an RT, bookmarked. Always happy to have more options for music when I need some music in the background <3
Some more speculation about the Arcana ranking. (Some knowledge based on Famitsu scans.)
V:
VI:
VII:
XIV:
V:
Sojiro Sakura - La Pape (The Hierophant) Teaches you how to craft consumables from ingredients found in dungeons or bought at shops.
(In the Famitsu scans, there is screenshot with Sojiro showing him say he'll teach you how to make coffee.)
(In the Famitsu scans, there is screenshot with Sojiro showing him say he'll teach you how to make coffee.)
Anne Takamaki - L'Amoureux (The Lovers) - Ability to seduce enemies so they'll go easier on you or give you better items.
Ryuji Sakamoto Le Chariot (The Chariot) - Increases charm and public perception of Phantom Thieves? The chariot is all about being a hero, so it makes sense.
Though maybe it's too similar to Yuuki Mishima.
Though maybe it's too similar to Yuuki Mishima.
Sadayo Kawakami - Tempérance (Temperance) Sends you on assignments where you have to skip school and research for the teacher to increase your knowledge and improve hit accuracy during battle.And as DNAbro, and A Dead Diehard commented, it could also allow you to occasionally skip school to progress other CO-OPs and Various other stat boosting activities.
CrimsonFist
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I would assume that party member Co-ops will directly affect their ability in battle.
ie. will now die for you.
ie. will now die for you.
I analyzed the art portrayed on the revealed tarot cards.
V. La Pape (The Hierophant):
X. La Roue De Fortune (The Wheel of Fortune):
XII. Le Pendu (The Hanged Man):
XIII. LArcane Sans Nom (Death):
XIV. Tempérance (Temperance):
XV. Le Diable (The Devil)
XVI. La Maison Dieu (The Tower):
XVII. L'Étoile (The Star):
XVIII. La Lune (The Moon)
XVIIII. Le Soleil (The Sun):
V. La Pape (The Hierophant):
Depicts a priest sitting in front of two pillars, holding a seven pronged staff while someone or something strokes his crotch.
Depicts a feline creature above, holding a blade to a clothed squid like creature and a lizard that are revolving on a Treadle Wheel.
Depicts a man hanging upside down, perched between two branches talking into an early 2000's cellular phone.
Depicts a Skeletal Voodoo-esque doll decapitating a king and his solider with a scythe and then stepping on the wound. It is interesting to note that this card does not have a label besides the number, which indicates that death is something without name.
Depicts an angelic woman with wings, and a flower in her hair in a desert, frolicking as she pours spirits from one chalice into another while meanwhile hands reach up out of the sand.
Depicts a half naked, busty, creature with antlers and an erection that drags two fully naked, busty, feline creatures with antennae by metal collars and chains.
Depicts two men falling or jumping from a broken tower in the desert with arrows raining after them.
Depicts a fully naked woman in the desert holding two chalices filled with spirits, while she pours one into her mouth and the other into the sand simultaneously as seven stars shine brightly in the sky above her.
Depicts a femininely distraught face in a spiked moon, that is crying large tears and looking down upon a scene where two canine creatures prepare to pounce on a man that is being attacked by a giant scorpion.
Depicts a grisly and mischievously grinning Sun that either cries or sweats above a scene of two skulls buried in sand that rest in front of a brick wall. It is interesting to note that the roman numeral reads with an XVIII instead of the common XIX writing of nineteen.
Reanimatoin
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Not going to lie, whenever that song came up, I started chanting (IS endgame boss spoilers)
"Hitler! It's Hitler!"
Although I played the localised version, so I should have done it wearing sunglasses....
Atlus confirmed the Arcanas of the party members (minus Gorou):
Morgana:
Makoto:
Haru:
Yusuke:
Ryuji:
Anne:
Futaba:
They are also the Coops for their Arcanas. Five more coops are listed on the website, but three (or four, depending on how Caroline and Justine are counted) of them are most likely Gorou, the Velvet Twins and a general link for the Phantom Thieves.
Morgana:
Magician
Priestess
Empress
Emperor
Chariot
Lovers
Hermit
They are also the Coops for their Arcanas. Five more coops are listed on the website, but three (or four, depending on how Caroline and Justine are counted) of them are most likely Gorou, the Velvet Twins and a general link for the Phantom Thieves.
where did this info come from?
They updated the P5 website.
A Dead Diehard
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So the two prettiest ones are Empress and Emperor?
I think the jailers will only get one link between them.
That makes things easier.So the two prettiest ones are Empress and Emperor?
I think the jailers will only get one link between them.
The cool thing about the twins
is if you overlap the text on their caps it spells, oxymoron.
Slightly off topic but
Yuji Himukai's illustrations for PSC are the best
Naoto Shirogane is a fifth generation detective of of the famed Shirogane family. As a descendant of a respected lineage of famous detectives, she wears formal men's clothing, and deepens her voice when she speaks in a sophisticated yet stilted manner. Logical to a fault, she is a serious character with an immense amount of pride for her occupation.After the events of Persona 4, Naoto found the resolve to be a detective in spite of the gender inequality she might experience at the work place, and is ultimately a strong character.
Yuji Himukai's illustrations for PSC are the best
Naoto Shirogane is a fifth generation detective of of the famed Shirogane family. As a descendant of a respected lineage of famous detectives, she wears formal men's clothing, and deepens her voice when she speaks in a sophisticated yet stilted manner. Logical to a fault, she is a serious character with an immense amount of pride for her occupation.After the events of Persona 4, Naoto found the resolve to be a detective in spite of the gender inequality she might experience at the work place, and is ultimately a strong character.
Reanimatoin
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I hope the twins C-Link (coining that term now) is more than just "fuse this persona"
Margaret is a cool character but her S.Link sucks.
Margaret is a cool character but her S.Link sucks.
Fool, Strength, Justice, and judgement (Unless they're hiding more).
Even then, that's:
Fool: Thief Group
Judgement: Seekers of Reform (or something).
Justice: Almost certainly Goro.
Strength: Twins?
CrimsonFist
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0 - The Fool, although we already know the MC is this
VIII - Strength
XII - Justice, could fit Goro?
20 - Judgement, Caroline/Justine?
21 - The World
Sae is presumably one of them too.
VIII - Strength
XII - Justice, could fit Goro?
20 - Judgement, Caroline/Justine?
21 - The World
Sae is presumably one of them too.
Reanimatoin
Member
You think they're going to leave out Aeon and Jester?
Probably, right?
Probably, right?
This makes sense. I can't believe the game is so close to coming out in Japan and how much we know now.
Also I didn't see this pic before and I like it
School festival confirmed
ShadowSoldier89
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jester im sure is out, I'd say Aeon is an unlikely possibility
Slightly off topic but
Yuji Himukai's illustrations for PSC are the best
Naoto Shirogane is a fifth generation detective of of the famed Shirogane family. As a descendant of a respected lineage of famous detectives, she wears formal men's clothing, and deepens her voice when she speaks in a sophisticated yet stilted manner. Logical to a fault, she is a serious character with an immense amount of pride for her occupation.After the events of Persona 4, Naoto found the resolve to be a detective in spite of the gender inequality she might experience at the work place, and is ultimately a strong character.
That gif of Naoto and Junpei is slaying me. Where is that from? Can't believed I have missed so much Persona outside the games.
CrimsonFist
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It's from the misheard lyrics segment of Persona Stalker Club, a monthly Persona focused talk show run by Atlus.
A Dead Diehard
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To be fair, those were just different versions of arcana we already used, weren't they?
As long as he isn't forced to 'swag' like Makoto, I don't mind.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
Joker will not have the opportunity to swag like Yu
that was the worst. I'm curious to how they will work consequences in this time. P4G had minor consequences with valentine's day added in. I'm still hoping for better integration of the links into the main story, and this would be a good place for part of that
P5MC:
But can we date all of the Phantom Thieves? If we can't have a literal harem including the guys + Morgana what is the point?