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Persona Community Thread |OT9| SPOILER TAGS OR DIE
- Thread starter Dantis
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And I just pre ordered this baby
My second CE ever. How can I ignore it? it looks sexy as hell.
It's also a good thing that there are countless games I care about releasing, before P5 so that I won't even feel the time before P5 comes out
Gravity Rush 2, KH 0.2, Ni Oh, Horizon and Zelda will distract me easily.
My second CE ever. How can I ignore it? it looks sexy as hell.
It's also a good thing that there are countless games I care about releasing, before P5 so that I won't even feel the time before P5 comes out
Gravity Rush 2, KH 0.2, Ni Oh, Horizon and Zelda will distract me easily.
I-Is that real? Or just mock-ups?
...I was just watching that video and did not even realize those scenes came from that.
Hooray...P5 is getting a story mode in that japan exclusive smartphone rpg game...Yay...
Just means when they really do make Persona 5 Arena it'll look even better! Right?!
(Wonder if they'll go 3D ala Guilty Gear Xrd when P5A actually goes into discussion, I think it'd work even better for the art style than sprites at that point.)
Hooray...P5 is getting a story mode in that japan exclusive smartphone rpg game...Yay...
Just means when they really do make Persona 5 Arena it'll look even better! Right?!
(Wonder if they'll go 3D ala Guilty Gear Xrd when P5A actually goes into discussion, I think it'd work even better for the art style than sprites at that point.)
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
Any of you guys have any experience with trails of cold steel? Looks kinda like persona set in a military academy that explores different themes.
the_sun_king
Member
This is bizarre. I'd just watched an OVA for Chain Chronicles the other day and here the game's having a crossover with P5.
Also, I've been thinking about the OT for the English localization: "Lttp" should be somewhere in the title because that's what it feels like for those of us not in Japan. The game is so old hat for them now.
Also, I've been thinking about the OT for the English localization: "Lttp" should be somewhere in the title because that's what it feels like for those of us not in Japan. The game is so old hat for them now.
A Dead Diehard
Member
One can only hope.
Short answer: Listen to this song
Long answer: Hells ya you should play this game!
Longer answer: Trails of Cold Steel and the latter Persona games are only similar in a superficial sense. It has things like
Huge emphasis is given to the main cast, Class VII. They're kind of like your typical Persona cast, but not really. They got the friendship, love and victory thing down to pat, but each and every one of these characters have their own goals, lives and relationships that extend beyond the main protagonist or the school. Speaking of the the main protagonist, he has a defined personality, which definitely changes things up. You can't really make as many choices, but he has a significantly stronger presence in the main narrative, and the fact that he has a defined personality definitely more than makes up for it.
The game has some flaws worth noting, of course. Pacing is pretty damn slow, and I would describe the experience of playing this akin to reading a gripping book. If you want instant gratification like in Persona... well that's not happening, lol. The gameplay on the whole is worse than Persona, though still quite enjoyable. There are some cliche moments that might turn people off, but they're few and far between. Overall though, it's a solid RPG, with great characters and story, fun gameplay and an OST to die for.
PS: And it also has without a doubt the greatest final boss in all of gaming. Don't @ me.
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
SOLD!
Mediking
Member
Keep Persona's engine for games like the Golden Playhouse ala Catherine and inevitable Persona spinoff.
Keep UE4 to speed along SMT and other quirky titles Atlus must be dreaming of.
Would it be better to play TitS 1 and 2 first? I've heard Cold Steel spoils some things from those games. I want to give that series a try but there's always other stuff ahead of it in my backlog.
I brought up the UE4 subject on the reveal thread (and here) and someone argued that UE4 might make it easier/cheaper to have multiplatform releases, which makes sense I guess. Perhaps P5's engine is only optimized for the PS3/PS4. Maybe P-Team will still use it but I'm guessing Hashino's next project might also be UE4.
CrimsonFist
Member
Yeah, the Cold Steel series spoils a few things from the Sky games. Ideally you should play Sky first, although CS1 is still a valid entry point.
TurnipFritters
Member
I'm guessing the P5 engine has only been tested with Playstation systems, and instead of trying to fiddle with it and get it to work on other platforms they just went with something that already works. The new SMT project is also listed as an HD project rather than a Switch exclusive, so they may have plans to eventually port it to whatever platforms can run UE4.
It'll be interesting to see if Project re: Fantasy uses the Persona engine or UE4 though - either is plausible but I'd lean more to UE4 because they were hiring staff to work on it rather than using Persona Studio, and, well, new hires are more likely to have experience working with UE4 than they are with your proprietary engine.
CrimsonFist
Member
I don't really consider it that meaningful, but the job listings for Re:Fantasy were asking for experience with Unreal 4 and Unity.
Will we finally be able to mod Lady Gaga on Persona though? I think that's the real question we should be asking.
Hopefully they find enough of an audience on PC to justify bringing their PS2 library to steam. I'd love to not have to repurchase the same games over and over just to play them on newer hardware.
In regards to reusing P5's engine, you have to remember that it's already outdated. To build a current gen game, they'd have to spend time and money upgrading. Maybe it's just cheaper to use middleware like UE4.
Or maybe they saw what P5 Arena looked like on UE and said holy shit
Hmm it's possible. I'm now assuming the reason they are using it is because of what you said and also it is much easier to find and hire those with experience in using Unreal than teaching someone to use a proprietary engine. Though that's shouldn't be a huge deal.
Also a dumb conspiracy theory but maybe they had major problems with the game engine during P5 dev and might abandon it.
oh yeah, I forgot P5 is basically a upgraded PS3 port.
Someone has finally uploaded the best dungeon music on Youtube.
Music spoilers, obviously.
https://youtu.be/4GpKNVS6NWM
Music spoilers, obviously.
https://youtu.be/4GpKNVS6NWM
It's actually may be the best song in the game. So damn smooth.
Im more based for the music in
Bank
Casino
But this one is very good now i give it a proper listening.
It seems everytime someone say that , Atlus actives "Bite The Delay" we going back in time.... hopefully is the last time we hit the 3 months left,
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Speaking of Persona 5 dungeon music , this one is great too. SPOILERS of course
www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ4JetPK_1I
This plays in the worst dungeon in the game, so listening to it just reminds me of that.
Really was that bad , is a shame tho.
I see gameplay of it but i guess actually played it is a diferent feeling.
The track still good tho reminds me to Digital Devil Saga
i love the dungeons tracks in P4 but i think P5 is up there in this department (just a little)
Dragon1893
Member
PK's awesome post already told you all you need to know, but anything with Trails in the name is a must.
Sky is better than Steel but they're all great.
Sky doesn't have the school setting and bonding events which are what gives Cold Steel the Persona feel
The issue with the Trails series is that no matter how you phrase it, they are too much of a slow-burner for the general gaming crowd to get into. That's why people don't tend to pick up e.g Trails in the Sky second chapter/Trails of Cold Steel 2 is because they have yet to complete the first one, or for someone tempted to dip their toes in into the Trails series, they might be scared of the commitment needed to see things through.
To really get to the meat of the story, you have to invest quite a lot of hours as the series goes about laying its lore and the way the world-building get presented to the audience...but usually once a Trails game hit its peak, there's no stopping the brakes in terms of how high stake they can go...at least, that was my own experience playing Trails in the Sky First Chapter->Second Chapter.
If you have hit this point you are probably too invested to get off this crazy Kiseki (Trails) ride.
To really get to the meat of the story, you have to invest quite a lot of hours as the series goes about laying its lore and the way the world-building get presented to the audience...but usually once a Trails game hit its peak, there's no stopping the brakes in terms of how high stake they can go...at least, that was my own experience playing Trails in the Sky First Chapter->Second Chapter.
If you have hit this point you are probably too invested to get off this crazy Kiseki (Trails) ride.
I've tried to get into Cold Steel a few times, and just can't. The presentation is really bad, and the story it's trying to tell is so many miles away from what I'd find interesting.
The one you linked doesn't remind me of DDS much at all, tbh.
It's a decent track, but it's not jazzy enough to be DDS1 and it's not synthy enough to be DDS2, I don't think.
The one I linked really reminds me of DDS2 though.
EDIT: I'm listening to the
track from P5 now, and Lyn's vocals really ruin it. She's incomprehensible.
Really, really hope they get a more fluent singer next time.
The one you linked doesn't remind me of DDS much at all, tbh.
It's a decent track, but it's not jazzy enough to be DDS1 and it's not synthy enough to be DDS2, I don't think.
The one I linked really reminds me of DDS2 though.
EDIT: I'm listening to the
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Really, really hope they get a more fluent singer next time.
I love the track and the vocals , but you right this is in the level of "A Lone Prayer" misheard lyrics only Persona 5 track the internet didnt even try to figure it out the lyrics yet.
The only i can understand is the 2nd chorus
So we roll the dices
See what they may fall
Come on, why don't we spin the wheel?
See who it may call
Give in to another vice
See what it might lead
Come on, let's just enjoy the sparks
Life feels so free
Give in to temptation
See what they may fall
Come on, why don't we spin the wheel?
See who it may call
Give in to another vice
See what it might lead
Come on, let's just enjoy the sparks
Life feels so free
Give in to temptation
And even i got doubts about those lines.
Just waiting the official OST comes with some lyrics to understand this one but im surprised if this song is supposed to be with lyrics 100% in english
Is funny because other songs outside of Persona 5 she got excelent pronunciation but in the game vocals she is bad as Yumi Kawamura or worse.
Sooooo good. Reminds me why Shoji Meguro is my most played artist on last.fm, lmao.
I was going to say the chick who sings in Persona 3 Portable was a good choice (english level wise) but seeing this video she fail in a couple of words (which is not that bad for a japanese speaker).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pdRIrjbiPU
But still is better English from what i see of Lyn live which had an amazing voice (maybe the best in the series) but she mess up the lyrics too much and even mix it up or change it (like in the Tokyo Game Show mini concert).
I love to see this lady (p3p one) sometime in the future in some spinoff or something.
But it seems when Atlus send Minako into the NON canon hell they send the full pack (character , social links , story tidbits and her singer)... only Theo saving himself of it lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pdRIrjbiPU
But still is better English from what i see of Lyn live which had an amazing voice (maybe the best in the series) but she mess up the lyrics too much and even mix it up or change it (like in the Tokyo Game Show mini concert).
I love to see this lady (p3p one) sometime in the future in some spinoff or something.
But it seems when Atlus send Minako into the NON canon hell they send the full pack (character , social links , story tidbits and her singer)... only Theo saving himself of it lol.
Dantis, I don't often agree with you when it comes to Persona 5, but you're dead right on this one.
This is the most DDS-era Meguro track in the whole game and if I didn't know anything about Persona 5, that track alone would've sold me on it.
Chrono Helix
Member
The guitar from 37s on is just SO amazing.
Ludger Kresnik
Member
I'm one of those people, sadly. I really tried to get into Cold Steel but not a single thing about it had me hooked in around the 20 hour mark, so I had to give up for the sake of my sanity.
StarSketch
Banned
@Lyn discussion: -just sits here looping Beneath the Mask... Again.-
@Trails discussion:
I'm playing Sky and...snarking at random bits of CS let's plays because I apparently decided i wanted to risk running into Sky spoilers on that game instead of waiting until I beat both sky games????? (though the one I know about
isn't that big of a deal from what I can tell so far?) someone needs to stop me.
@Trails discussion:
I'm playing Sky and...snarking at random bits of CS let's plays because I apparently decided i wanted to risk running into Sky spoilers on that game instead of waiting until I beat both sky games????? (though the one I know about
Olivier's full identity
You are still alright if you ask me. Basically one of the most obvious spoiler of Trails FC/SC if I remember correctly was in the form of a book found on the 2nd floor of the library in Trails of Cold Steel 1.
As long as you don't browse over details/read the newspapers I think Cold Steel is fine as a standalone.
Stop that!
Just finish off Sky then play CS when you're done if you're that curious!!
A Dead Diehard
Member
I'm really curious how reception of the music will take shap once it hits NA.
ULTROS!
People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
Hate to say it but Trails of Cold Steel II was incredibly tropey and cringeworthy about friends and stuff. I fucking hated Rean.
Though Persona may look tropey about friendship and stuff, it's incredibly well done.
BtM is a tremendous track, in spite of Lyn's vocals. And it's not alone. Last Surprise and Life Will Change are also excellent. Rivers In The Desert is not as good as should be, again, because of the vocals.
Meguro's strong compositions still shine through, and everything there is still more interesting than 90% of videogame music, but with a singer who actually made sense, it would be much better. She should either sing in Japanese, or have a singer who is fluent. TWEWY showed how far that can go in its Crossover OST.
This is how I feel about the whole game.
Don't get me wrong, Persona 5 is absolutely excellent. But the narrative around it from importers is that it is uniformly better than everything that's come before it.
At launch, I think that's how everyone will feel, but I'll be interested to see how it's looking around August.
In terms of the music,
EDIT: Actually, P5's might be above P3's. I feel like it has higher highs. Tracks like Willpower and the boss theme are tremendous, and Beneath The Mask is as good as any P3 daytime track, I think.
The final boss and credit themes are a lot weaker in P5, but I shouldn't judge the whole OST on that, haha.
A Dead Diehard
Member
I like the final boss track just fine. The only problem is it takes way longer to get going than P3's or P4's.
Oh THAT.
Not quite but I mean, but the one I'm talking about does get retooled for the battle immediately afterward.
sackboy2197
Member
Very minor music-related spoilers (just to be safe)
And it's also used a bit too much. It's not as "special" as the P3's one. But I still love it a whole lot.
That's not the final boss track. The final boss track only plays in the actual final boss.
sackboy2197
Member
Right, I was thinking of Rivers in the Desert.
TurnipFritters
Member
Hmmm....
RadioJoNES64
Banned
So, how are they releasing the costumes for the American release of Persona 5? Do I have to preorder to get any of the costumes with alternative battle tracks?