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Persona Community Thread: The Butterfly Effect
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...cyborgs?
One of the aspects that I appreciate about Persona 4, is that it does occasionally flirt with more macabre elements, but it does so whilst remaining tonally consistent. I just think that overall, it feels a more assured work.
Yeah, It's barely noticeable. I've never seen it praised, so I can't understand any obsessive-compulsive worry that suddenly it'll be all P5 is about. No one is sending that message.
Understandable that it does. The experience they gained also passed over to Persona 3 Portable. (See: Near universal agreement that the female protagonist has better social links.)
Sophia to star in the next persona?
I'm returning it tomorrow, most likely, so this is the last chance to give me a beating.
Well he only has it for a 1 or 2 more days tops since he rented it. Better to get your moneys worth (and P4A's online is really fun)
Pity I didn't get it for 360
Well, it's a Lovefilm rental, so I can keep it for as long as I want. It's just not my type of game. Also, we're playing PS3, bro. If you have it you are free to join.
It's flattering that out of the countless posts to respond to, I'm the only one that gets name dropped. :3
In all seriousness though, if I say "I don't like this kind of content" and somebody says "Why don't you like this?" and then I give a response, it's not really something to take issue with.
I agree. Although I feel that Golden's additional content threw the tone out of whack. All of it, not just the silly bath house scenes.
buddha0991
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Labby chan?
It's not even a direction to go in, really. It's like 10 seconds of skin. How is that a direction they could go in?
I mean, the rest is just P4. I don't get it.
I'd be a pretty ineffective protagonist, not being a combat model and all...
Sure. Like that chick in transformers 3.
We don't want to break the difficulty that much.
Yes please.
Dantis said:
It's not that you don't like it. I'm (mostly) fine that, regardless of how silly I think it is. I think it's strange that you would worry at all that the content that's (from what I've seen) never cited as a high point of the game would influence it's successor. People are playing this for the first time and talking about how much love the characters, not the bath scenes. I just can't figure how your mind is calculating things to think that Atlus will suddenly go left as even the new fans go right.
This too. So it also doesn't make sense to me to say the new stuff threw the tone out of whack. I never played vanilla P4 and I never felt Golden was stepping outside itself or losing consistency. So "out of whack", I mean, I'm sorry the characters aren't completely insufferably miserable for 80 hours? I don't know what else to say.
You mean Index.
No really, it'd be pretty fucking difficult with me as a protagonist. I'm not a combat model at all and there's a lot of issues regarding my ability to do anything resembling fighting. ;_;
This is what I think P5 will be relatively close to 4. That's been their cash cow. P1/2 aren't coming back.
I can't see the games becoming any less thoughtful though.
Me either. I'm just making sure people realize Atlus doesn't exist anymore, outside of being a brand!
It's really not that hard to see, you're just looking at it the wrong way.
Ignore the bath house scenes for a minute. Keep them in your peripheral vision or whatever.
Most of what Golden added was "WOOOOAH WACKY!", and when it wasn't that it was the band scene. Or the hot bath scenes. Either of them. There's also a small amount of the poignant stuff in new January content.
My concern is that people will see P4G and associate it purely with the comedy, the band scene etc. etc.
"BUT DANTIS!" I hear you cry! "PERSONA 4 ALREADY HAD SILLY SCENES! THINK OF THE CROSS DRESSING PAGEANT OR TEDDIE GOING SUPER SAIYAN!"
I appreciate that this is true, however, before these scenes were balanced. It's like they made a great chocolate cake and we all said "Man, Atlus, you made a great chocolate cake!" and then they re-released it a year later in smaller form but with even more chocolate and now I have a bitter taste in my mouth also the chocolate takes a steam bath and sings pop songs.
Then why do they still use the Atlus logo? Despite being fully owned by a corporate entity, the development team known as Atlus didn't somehow disintegrate and the name is still valuable.
Nope. Atlus is nothing but a brand now. Everything else is now Index.
Well... yeah? The brand still exists as well as the team associated with that brand, so it's still apt to say that "Atlus" developed something and not "Index." Absolutely no one goes around saying that "Index" developed Catherine or Etrian Odyssey.
The distinction is irrelevant, it's still the same people, and they use the Atlus name to represent themselves.
But they were developed by Index. Not my fault people like being deliberately wrong out of tradition!
If the company itself thought that way, they would have abolished the "Atlus" name a long time ago and they would have stuck the Index logo on the boxes and advertising. They didn't.
That's the point of a brand. It doesn't matter when discussing the development, however.
cj_iwakura
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I can't even fathom how bad the lag will be, but you can add me; cj_iwakura is my PSN.
I see. So I guess we're saying the same thing in that the Atlus brand is still being used, but where we differ is how we refer to the development company. Well, me and the majority of people will still refer to games developed by the former Atlus staff as "Atlus" developed games because that's basically who they are. It'd be weird and almost wrong to refer to the Giant Bomb staff, for example, as CBS staff just because that's who they're owned by now and there are other examples I could come up with.
I bet you even the Atlus dev team themselves don't think of themselves as the "Index" development team.
I've added you. Just gotta respond, bro.
cj_iwakura
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Yep, just signing on.
buddha0991
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CJ the rest of us are talking here
http://client01.chat.mibbit.com/?channel=#personagaf&server=globalgamers.net
http://client01.chat.mibbit.com/?channel=#personagaf&server=globalgamers.net
That might be 2 I'm thinking about. They all kinda blend together.
Sammy Samusu
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Playing Persona 4 now, my first Persona game.
It feels like I have been pressing X for the past three hours. Yosuke is the only reason I'm still playing it.
It feels like I have been pressing X for the past three hours. Yosuke is the only reason I'm still playing it.
you HAVE been pressing x for three hours
SatelliteOfLove
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Imagine if it sucked!
thequickandthedead
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Just started p4 and someone spoiled
for me. Are there are any other suprises i can look forward to apart from the killer's identity?
Naoto's gender
ScraftyDevil
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Aside from being as tactless as a honey badger, I do actually like Yosuke. He made for a better comic relief character than anyone else in the series, IMO.
Just started p4 and someone spoiled Naoto's gender
If you couldn't figure that out after her first few lines, then you'd REALLY have a problem.
Trust me; it's not a twist at all.
Just started p4 and someone spoiledfor me. Are there are any other suprises i can look forward to apart from the killer's identity?Naoto's gender
That's hardly a spoiler. Infact, it's to the point of not being a spoiler because Naoto's gender is openly discussed.
ScraftyDevil
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Just started p4 and someone spoiledfor me. Are there are any other suprises i can look forward to apart from the killer's identity?Naoto's gender
I knew about that and was still surprised by some things. Keep going.
Just started p4 and someone spoiledfor me. Are there are any other suprises i can look forward to apart from the killer's identity?Naoto's gender
lol, I actually thought that bit was pretty obvious in my first playthrough. You'll be fine.
Just started p4 and someone spoiledfor me. Are there are any other suprises i can look forward to apart from the killer's identity?Naoto's gender
I feel like there's only one significant twist in the game. For the most part, it's all about the execution. The characters and the world are much more entertaining than the events that push the story forwards.
thequickandthedead
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Really? IIRC Naoto was referred to as the "detective prince" in a trailer so i assumed her gender was supposed to come as a surprise twist (and the fact that she looked nothing like a girl).
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