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Persona Community Thread: The Butterfly Effect

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PK Gaming

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Catatonic said:
I just beat Persona 4 in a week. I was really busy this past year, so I waited until summer to finally get it on Vita. And holy hell, the game was just as addicting as Persona 3.

I'm wondering if Arena is worth getting. I was kind of reading the basic plot on wiki, and thought it sounded iffy. I know it's a fighting game, was just curious how it compliments the story in 4 (if it's good in that sense).

Going to order the Animation on Blu Ray and plow through those.
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Yay, I was in your position 2~ months ago

-Arena: Definitely worth getting if you love Persona 4 and like fighting games. The story is a bit tedious, but it's decent if you're a huge fan of the characters / universe and the arcade mode is much more accessible.

-Anime: Supplementary material for the game. Unlike most anime > game adaptations, Persona 4: The animation is a very much a "by the book" anime (with a few exception). It's a double-edge sword since most of the content ends up being dull, but overall I liked it. The unique perspective on Yu's character makes it worth watching imo and the filler episodes are surprisingly good.
 
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esoterika

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cjkeats said:
Arena is great, just like your choice in avatar.
The anime is pretty iffy, but if you love 4, you'll have fun with it.
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I watched the anime recently, held out until the dub had been finished to see how well it had been done (and to experience the new Teddie/Chie/Kanji). It really was fun and did great service for those who played, but I see what you mean by iffy, and I imagine anyone who hadn't played P4 might have felt a little... left out while watching. Maybe it's like what the current Devil Survivor 2 adaptation is doing to me (having not played DS2).
 
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jello44

Chie is the worst waifu
cj_iwakura said:
Could always use more Taiga.

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I'm always for the females with short brown hair. >_>
 
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Moonlight

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Catatonic said:
I just beat Persona 4 in a week. I was really busy this past year, so I waited until summer to finally get it on Vita. And holy hell, the game was just as addicting as Persona 3.

I'm wondering if Arena is worth getting. I was kind of reading the basic plot on wiki, and thought it sounded iffy. I know it's a fighting game, was just curious how it compliments the story in 4 (if it's good in that sense).

Going to order the Animation on Blu Ray and plow through those.
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First and foremost, your choice in avatar is impeccable. Second of all, the plot of Arena is kinda... well, yeah. It's a tad iffy. Particularly when much of it is rather inconsistent, given the way it handles the presentation of the story. Hit or miss is a good way to describe it, although the Persona 3 stuff is generally much better presented than most of the P4 cast's stuff. It's presented in visual novel style, and most of the characters (at least on the P4 side) share the same basic story they go through, with differences mostly in perspective and narration. Honestly, Persona 4 Arena is a bit of a misnomer in terms of where the story goes. It makes for a much better companion to Persona 3 and maybe the wider Persona canon than Persona 4 itself.

As a fighting game, though, Persona 4 Arena is really quite good.

The anime by itself is mediocre, and the production quality could not be thinner, but if you can tolerate those failings, you might find it entertaining as a broad-strokes companion to the game.
 
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cjkeats

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esoterika said:
I watched the anime recently, held out until the dub had been finished to see how well it had been done (and to experience the new Teddie/Chie/Kanji). It really was fun and did great service for those who played, but I see what you mean by iffy, and I imagine anyone who hadn't played P4 might have felt a little... left out while watching. Maybe it's like what the current Devil Survivor 2 adaptation is doing to me (having not played DS2).
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I haven't seen the dub yet myself, but I hear it came out okay.
But yes, the show was plagued by staff and financial issues so the animation suffered and it shows. General anime fans don't seem to get much out of it, but people who enjoy the game get lots.
The summer episodes with Detective Nanako were the best.

cj_iwakura said:
Could always use more Taiga.

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I prefer the Tiga in Jintors avatar. Palmtop style.
 
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esoterika

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cjkeats said:
I haven't seen the dub yet myself, but I hear it came out okay.
But yes, the show was plagued by staff and financial issues so the animation suffered and it shows. General anime fans don't seem to get much out of it, but people who enjoy the game get lots.
The summer episodes with Detective Nanako were the best.
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Yea I enjoyed the dub, I thought they did a great job.

The transition from Troy Baker as Kanji to Matthew Mercer as Kanji (literally from ep 13 to ep 14) was so smooth and unnoticeable that I thought I had read it wrong.
 
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cj_iwakura

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cjkeats said:
I haven't seen the dub yet myself, but I hear it came out okay.
But yes, the show was plagued by staff and financial issues so the animation suffered and it shows. General anime fans don't seem to get much out of it, but people who enjoy the game get lots.
The summer episodes with Detective Nanako were the best.
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The animation had some genuinely hilarious moments, almost all of which were added to the show.

Combat was enjoyable when it got down to it, but Devil Survivor 2 is blowing it away.
 
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esoterika

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cj_iwakura said:
Combat was enjoyable when it got down to it, but Devil Survivor 2 is blowing it away.
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Overall or you mean in animation quality? Having not played DS2 and talking with others who haven't played it, it's turning out kind of dull for us, but it's certainly a pretty show.
 
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Moonlight

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There are a lot of words I could use to describe the Devil Survivor 2 anime, but for its' visual appeal, I can't say I have any that are kind.

Y'all need to check out Hyouka, for a proper introduction of what's pretty.
 
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esoterika

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Moonlight said:
There are a lot of words I could use to describe the Devil Survivor 2 anime, but for its' visual appeal, I can't say I have any that are kind.

Y'all need to check out Hyouka, for a proper introduction of what's pretty.
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I love Hyouka, it's one of my favorite shows.
 
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cj_iwakura

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esoterika said:
Overall or you mean in animation quality? Having not played DS2 and talking with others who haven't played it, it's turning out kind of dull for us, but it's certainly a pretty show.
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It has some great demon summoning battles. It feels like a bonafide SMT anime. Demons interacting with characters and what not.
 
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cjkeats

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cj_iwakura said:
The animation had some genuinely hilarious moments, almost all of which were added to the show.

Combat was enjoyable when it got down to it, but Devil Survivor 2 is blowing it away.
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That's probably why I enjoyed it so much. Much like the game my favourite parts were the comedic bits, not the action and they did them very well.

I only watched the first episode of DS2 so far, I'm waiting till it's over. Too much on the go to watch more than OreImo this season.
 
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Mononoke

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Moonlight said:
First and foremost, your choice in avatar is impeccable. Second of all, the plot of Arena is kinda... well, yeah. It's a tad iffy. Particularly when much of it is rather inconsistent, given the way it handles the presentation of the story. Hit or miss is a good way to describe it, although the Persona 3 stuff is generally much better presented than most of the P4 cast's stuff. It's presented in visual novel style, and most of the characters (at least on the P4 side) share the same basic story they go through, with differences mostly in perspective and narration. Honestly, Persona 4 Arena is a bit of a misnomer in terms of where the story goes. It makes for a much better companion to Persona 3 and maybe the wider Persona canon than Persona 4 itself.

As a fighting game, though, Persona 4 Arena is really quite good.

The anime by itself is mediocre, and the production quality could not be thinner, but if you can tolerate those failings, you might find it entertaining as a broad-strokes companion to the game.
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Just wanted to thank everyone for the nice comments about my avatar, as well as all the advice that was given. I did not know that the animation was flimsy in production. I'm still going to watch it, but I appreciate the heads up. I will lower my expectations, because truth be told - I thought the animation was something a different (in terms of the scope/quality of the production). So I'm really glad that I mentioned that here.

I'm going to get Arena, since I have a lot of free time this summer (first time in 8 months I've actually had time). So I look forward to it, at least for the fighting game sake. My only fear (and I know this might sound silly) - is that the Arena game would mess with the cannon plot. Er what I mean is, I actually loved the ending to Persona 4....but wanted more. But in my head I figured, if I ever saw these characters again, it would be years later, and they would be united to fight some new threat. I know a sequel like that would never happen. But point is, Arena takes place fairly soon after 4 ends. So it's..kind of an extension of the end. So my fear was that whatever it provides, could be worse than what I got at the end of 4 (in terms of closure).

I am...definitely over thinking this. I want more Persona in my life, and I'm sure I will enjoy it.

I've played every game in the series now, but that's it. Can any of you guys recommend me anything else related to the series that I could collect. I want to get the Persona 4 and 3 soundtrack next. I have no idea if there is anything else related (is there any good reading?). I've only stuck strictly to the games, my brother got me into them.
 
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buddha0991

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Catatonic said:
Just wanted to thank everyone for the nice comments about my avatar, as well as all the advice that was given. I did not know that the animation was flimsy in production. I'm still going to watch it, but I appreciate the heads up. I will lower my expectations, because truth be told - I thought the animation was something a different (in terms of the scope/quality of the production). So I'm really glad that I mentioned that here.

I'm going to get Arena, since I have a lot of free time this summer (first time in 8 months I've actually had time). So I look forward to it, at least for the fighting game sake. My only fear (and I know this might sound silly) - is that the Arena game would mess with the cannon plot. Er what I mean is, I actually loved the ending to Persona 4, and wanted more. But in my head I figured, if ever saw these characters again, it would be years later, and they would be united to fight some new threat. I know a sequel like that would never happen. But point is, Arena takes place fairly soon after 4 ends. So it's..kind of an extension of the end. So my fear was that whatever it provides, would be worse than what I got.

I am...definitely over thinking this. I want more Persona in my life, and I'm sure I will enjoy it.

I've played every game in the series now, but that's it. Can any of you guys recommend me anything else related to the series that I could collect. I want to get the Persona 4 and 3 soundtrack next.
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What do you think of every game in the series? I am curious. If you are REALLY desperate for more things with the words Persona in them, MAYBE...maybe not...try watching Persona: Trinity Soul. I reccomend trying other games in the Megaten series though. Maybe Devil Survivor?
 
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cjkeats

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Catatonic said:
Just wanted to thank everyone for the nice comments about my avatar, as well as all the advice that was given. I did not know that the animation was flimsy in production. I'm still going to watch it, but I appreciate the heads up. I will lower my expectations, because truth be told - I thought the animation was something a different (in terms of the scope/quality of the production). So I'm really glad that I mentioned that here.

I'm going to get Arena, since I have a lot of free time this summer (first time in 8 months I've actually had time). So I look forward to it, at least for the fighting game sake. My only fear (and I know this might sound silly) - is that the Arena game would mess with the cannon plot. Er what I mean is, I actually loved the ending to Persona 4, and wanted more. But in my head I figured, if ever saw these characters again, it would be years later, and they would be united to fight some new threat. I know a sequel like that would never happen. But point is, Arena takes place fairly soon after 4 ends. So it's..kind of an extension of the end. So my fear was that whatever it provides, would be worse than what I got.

I am...definitely over thinking this. I want more Persona in my life, and I'm sure I will enjoy it.

I've played every game in the series now, but that's it. Can any of you guys recommend me anything else related to the series that I could collect. I want to get the Persona 4 and 3 soundtrack next.
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The live concerts. There are three of them. Not sure if they are all on BD(Or what region you are in for that matter), but last years is and is delightful. They are also on YouTube, but if you want to collect them you can't go wrong.
 
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Levito

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esoterika said:
Uh woah hi guys. Discovered NeoGAF through the slink FM podcast, only to find that I apparently made an account a year ago. I'm esoteric from the Atlus forums and the dude who makes the SMT piano arrangements over at my youtube account.

Anyways browsing the various threads and forums and thought I would say hi. Hope to be participating all threads Megaten.
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Glad to see you've joined us, Mr. Farrell!
 
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Venfayth

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esoterika said:
Uh woah hi guys. Discovered NeoGAF through the slink FM podcast, only to find that I apparently made an account a year ago. I'm esoteric from the Atlus forums and the dude who makes the SMT piano arrangements over at my youtube account.

Anyways browsing the various threads and forums and thought I would say hi. Hope to be participating all threads Megaten.
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Welcome :)
 
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Jintor

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esoterika said:
Yea I enjoyed the dub, I thought they did a great job.

The transition from Troy Baker as Kanji to Matthew Mercer as Kanji (literally from ep 13 to ep 14) was so smooth and unnoticeable that I thought I had read it wrong.
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what

I've only seen a few youtube versions of some scenes from the summer vacation but whaaaaaaaattttttttttttttttt
 
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Young Magus

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esoterika said:
Uh woah hi guys. Discovered NeoGAF through the slink FM podcast, only to find that I apparently made an account a year ago. I'm esoteric from the Atlus forums and the dude who makes the SMT piano arrangements over at my youtube account.

Anyways browsing the various threads and forums and thought I would say hi. Hope to be participating all threads Megaten.
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Welcome to Persona GAF!!!

By the way I love the rendition of the last world theme from Nocturne.
 
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Dantis

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Gosh, you're all so active lately. I waske up to like 100 new posts every morning at the moment.

I started The Great Gatsby. It's good! I got about a quarter of the way in.

esoterika said:
Uh woah hi guys. Discovered NeoGAF through the slink FM podcast, only to find that I apparently made an account a year ago. I'm esoteric from the Atlus forums and the dude who makes the SMT piano arrangements over at my youtube account.

Anyways browsing the various threads and forums and thought I would say hi. Hope to be participating all threads Megaten.
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Your piano music is amazing. Welcome to PersonaGAF.

MagusKen said:
Welcome to Persona GAF!!!

By the way I love the rendition of the last world theme from Nocturne.
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This is one of my favourites too. Love the original track also. And Brahman.

EDIT: Just saw the Arrested Development season 4 trailer. SO HYPE.
 
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Jintor

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Dantis said:
Gosh, you're all so active lately. I waske up to like 100 new posts every morning at the moment.

I started The Great Gatsby. It's good! I got about a quarter of the way in.
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Gotta finish this book on brands, then scarlet letter, then some Sagan, then brave new world, then something on journalism, THEN i'll get around to gatsby
 
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King Tubby

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As someone who doesn't watch anime very often (read: ever) I thought the P4 Animation was great. Watched it as I was going through the game for the first time as well, making sure to stay an ep behind of where I was. Very much encourage watching the dub as it's well done. I noticed some lackluster/lazy animation quality but other than that I felt it was really enjoyable. Yu is a deadpan proswagonist extraordinaire.
 
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Kazzy

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King Tubby said:
As someone who doesn't watch anime very often (read: ever) I thought the P4 Animation was great. Watched it as I was going through the game for the first time as well, making sure to stay an ep behind of where I was. Very much encourage watching the dub as it's well done. I noticed some lackluster/lazy animation quality but other than that I felt it was really enjoyable. Yu is a deadpan proswagonist extraordinaire.
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It is a fun watch, though I can understand why not everyone will like it.

It's reliant on your knowledge of the games plot, as much of it works through references and allusions, rather than its own storytelling. There is no doubt that as it's own thing, it is bad, but it was made for fans. It's failing are quite apparent, but I still found enough to keep me satisfied.

Also, all this Hyouka appreciation always warms my heart!
 
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we.are.the.armada

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esoterika said:
Uh woah hi guys. Discovered NeoGAF through the slink FM podcast, only to find that I apparently made an account a year ago. I'm esoteric from the Atlus forums and the dude who makes the SMT piano arrangements over at my youtube account.

Anyways browsing the various threads and forums and thought I would say hi. Hope to be participating all threads Megaten.
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Welcome back! Very nice music esoterika, let's do a collab song together :)

And by collab, I mean really dumb shit like this song I wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBWHRRtvDbg
 
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ScraftyDevil

Banned
esoterika said:
Uh woah hi guys. Discovered NeoGAF through the slink FM podcast, only to find that I apparently made an account a year ago. I'm esoteric from the Atlus forums and the dude who makes the SMT piano arrangements over at my youtube account.

Anyways browsing the various threads and forums and thought I would say hi. Hope to be participating all threads Megaten.
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Hello, and welcome to ballertown. I'm ScraftyDevil from the latest episode of the podcast (y'know, the guy who rambled on about Junpei and demons for like twenty minutes). I bet you'll fit right in around here. L
 
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Marche90

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esoterika said:
Uh woah hi guys. Discovered NeoGAF through the slink FM podcast, only to find that I apparently made an account a year ago. I'm esoteric from the Atlus forums and the dude who makes the SMT piano arrangements over at my youtube account.

Anyways browsing the various threads and forums and thought I would say hi. Hope to be participating all threads Megaten.
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Late to the party, but welcome! I hope you enjoy your stay here. Needless to say, but your renditions are excellent. I'm waiting to see which track you play and upload next
 
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