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Persona Community Thread: The Butterfly Effect
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On the plus side, we get super cheap games out of our predicament.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
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Remember when persona users could actually summon their personas without faking suicide or going inside a TV? I hope p5 ditches that bullshit.
I don't understand this complaint. Why in the world does it matter?
Blood Diamonds
Banned
No, I like the faking Suicide.
Supermanisdead
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Evokers are the best. They are the reason I became interested in the series.
There was Evoker talk before, but my appreciation for them has increased after re-reading the P3 art book interview:
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
Because in p3 the evokers made absolutely no sense (although they looked cool) from a story perspective. I'm also not sure if the p4 crew can summon personas outside the TV but I think a poster earlier hinted that they probably could. IRC all persona users are pretty much the same from a story perspective and it makes no sense that some can just summon personas without any additional BS. This especially needs to be fixed if atlus is really linking all the persona stories together.
Nope. Philemon granted the power of Persona to the P1 and P2 crew when they played the "Persona" summoning game. Persona 3 crew got it from "having the potential" and then releasing it with an Evoker. Persona 4 crew got it by affirming their convictions and successfully accepting their Shadow.
...We do? What games?
Unfortunately, the chances are high that I will be at the forefront of that.
Kinda makes me wish I was around to see the meltdowns about P3.
Supermanisdead
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I'm watching the Catherine cutscenes right now and this game is just so amazing. But goddamn, I just cannot play the puzzle parts. They are infuriating. This game with a different style of night-gameplay would have been my game of the generation. Imagine this had press-turn combat...
Have you tried it on Easy or Very Easy?
Though at that point, you might as well just watch the cutscenes, it's pretty dammed easy. I was able to get through it on normal.
TurnipFritters
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actually they looked really dumb.
You're probably over-thinking it. Watch the Inazuma trick, and be amazed as you blast through the game.
You, really? Why do you think that?
The what?
Probably because he is hyping himself too high and the game won't meet his expectations.
I still haven't been taught that technique, but simply being more aware of the Spider technique has made it a LOT easier. Went right back to Stage 3 and gold award'd that sucker today.
Best technique on the game. I was loving Catherine before I saw Inazuma (It's really late on, as I recall, which is kind of dumb), and then I did and suddenly I was a climbing machine.
I need to play through Catherine again some time soon. I think I've been through something like four times now? Love it.
I think it is highly possible that it will take a direction I do not appreciate.
Man, I'll be seriously depressed if it carries on down Arena's route.
Blood Diamonds
Banned
Haven't played Arena, but what's wrong with it, Dantis?
I'm not worried. P4 and the stuff you didn't like in P4G is there because its coming from a game that's proven itself.
P5 will be all new. There's nothing to bank on and no fan service to provide beyond references to past titles which we know they're not to heavy-handed with. It'll be fine.
He doesn't like the story.
Not to be over-dramatic, but it tore out my heart and shat on it.
Mmmm... Dunno.
I mean, a robot is possible.
I really hope that you're right.
Supermanisdead
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Oh, I don't even have the game of Catherine. I just played the demo and it was not my cup of tea. I'll be okay watching the cutscenes I think. But if it's ever 20$ on PSN sale again, I'll pick it up.
I'm pretty sure I will be. You give way too much weight to Arena, man. Relax! ^_^
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
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What did you expect the game to be like? It was obvious from the beginning that the game was meant to be 100% fan service.
You're probably right. Hashino hasn't let me down yet!
Well excuuuuuuuse me, Princess!
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
Iol Seriously though, the game is the most non-canon canon thing ever. Persona 4 arena is about as canon as anime fillers. You shouldn't worry so much about it.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
How do you feel about persona 4 arena-2?
Like I said before it sounds more like they just never really tried outside the TV, it's not so much a case of being able to/not being able to.
That said there's still a lot of bullshit about the TV world we haven't figured out. The
fog was obviously related to Izanami, but the world itself appears to persist in form and format even after her defeat. Not only that, but it retains its elemental properties in being affected by a human heart/mind. It's easy to say it's a realm created/affected by human thought and leave it at that, but why has it got the TV motif, or more specifically, why is it accessible through the TVs? Does it have any relation to the Dark Hour? What, basically, is going on?
...I need to play P1 and P2.
They can do what they want with it as long as it doesn't influence the mainline titles.
I want all this to be left ambiguous. All of it.
EDIT: Just to expand on that - Persona is all about symbolism. Tartarus, Evokers, the Shadow World etc. don't have any inherent logic behind them, they act as symbols for the themes of the games. Anything they write in to justify it with pseudo-logic would be ham-fisted and silly (See: Persona Arena).
Blood Diamonds
Banned
Wow, Persona 2 and Persona 3 are worlds apart :S
Ambiguity is the beauty after all
EACH DAY I SAY THAT I CAN DO ANYTHING IF SOMEONE ELSE CAN!
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
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Lol demon painter is EXACTLY how I imagined Kaneko would be in real life.
Hey guys what's going on in this topi...
... Oh. Business as usual with Dantis then? I'll just go take my spot in the "Arena will probably be connected to P5" camp.
... Oh. Business as usual with Dantis then? I'll just go take my spot in the "Arena will probably be connected to P5" camp.
cj_iwakura
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Once you master Catherine, it's a divine experience, and I wouldn't have the gameplay be any other kind.
I've beaten it on Hard, as well as all the optional stages.
Hey guys what's going on in this topi...
... Oh. Business as usual with Dantis then? I'll just go take my spot in the "Arena will probably be connected to P5" camp.
I will be devastated if it is. Genuinely, it will upset me.
TurnipFritters
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No, they're totally different. See, the Demon Painter has long hair and Kaneko has short hair. Totally different!
The inner writer in me is telling me that you don't just write (P4A Spoilerz)
one of your most insane villains back
Supermanisdead
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I'm in the "P5 better be an original game. I swear to god, Atlus don't fuck this up." camp.
I'd like to see the P4A story continue though. If not in another fighter, then in an RPG.
I'd like to see the P4A story continue though. If not in another fighter, then in an RPG.
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