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Persona Series Story & Spoilers, P4G Reflection, Persona 5 Speculation Inevitable
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Probably. Most of Adachi's character is that way.
WrenchNinja
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Yeah, its especially odd since you, him and Nanako bond a lot during his social link. Hes more conflicted in his rank 9 and max rank though.
I honestly think that he just doesn't care much. After the reveal he becomes unhinged.
Hah, I haven't seen those yet so I should probably come back to this discussion later. My latest save game is on 12/22 and I haven't started the Adachi dungeon, so I'll need to do it all in one day.
cj_iwakura
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Well boy was today underwhelming. 
I expected this thread to be a huge party by now.
I expected this thread to be a huge party by now.Well boy was today underwhelming.
Same here, man. Same here :/
Hope for tomorrow?
buddha0991
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That is why I kept my expectations in check....though I never planned for starting what I did, I opened a can of crazy.
Dude, you had IGOR next to Hanako Ohtani. HANAKO.
You didn't just open a can of crazy, you opened a portal to the Bermuda Triangle during The Dark Hour. >_>;
buddha0991
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Wha, which one was that one?
that was me.sorry.
buddha0991
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You also posted the one with the nose in margarets butt, holmes. I wouldn't subject Persona Gaf to images that scaring and grotesque, nose sirree.
Oh. Either way, you're all crazy. And I was laughing for every second of it. >_>;
buddha0991
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I see that as a good thing!
well, at least both of us had enough sense not to post the orgy or saki and morooka french kissing. insta-ban woulda been our fate.
buddha0991
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Yea, there was some....questionable stuff on that page.
AnimeGAF finished it off.
buddha0991
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Putting that thread out of its' misery was the right thing to do.We made it awesome, Animegaf messed up
...now no one will be ready for Persona 5's announcement tomorrow.
ColossalLazy
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The guy who gets the famitsu early posted about it.
http://taletalesource.blog69.fc2.com/blog-entry-3044.html
Its about Disgaea D2 apparently.
Edit: Wrong info.
http://taletalesource.blog69.fc2.com/blog-entry-3044.html
Its about Disgaea D2 apparently.
Edit: Wrong info.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
If shadows are human emotions given form, then what is Nyx, the entity that's IIRC called The Mother of All Shadows?
It is currently pounding on the Great Seal endlessly yes? So what is that thing anyway?
It is currently pounding on the Great Seal endlessly yes? So what is that thing anyway?
hahhahaha......HAHAHAHHAHAHA! gonna cry now
Thats not the big scoop though. Apparently this guy admitted he didnt manage to get famitsu yet, so yeah...
No, that isn't even from Famitsu.
This was already dismissed in the now closed thread, no?
Nyx is, uh, humanity's unconscious wish for self-destruction. Probably. Maybe.
As opposed to Izanami, who was granting humanity's unconscious wish to live without the truth.
ColossalLazy
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Ok. My bad.
we.are.the.armada
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Yes it was, so let's turn our frowns upside down. And also not turn this thread into that other one. Aeana, I summon thee! Please protect this thread
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
I thought the Humanity's unconscious wish for self-destruction is Erebus, not Nyx.
I just find it rather weird that currently there's a World-Ending entity looming and hovering over the earth in the Persona universe and yet the games after P3 don't really address this very significant issue. I mean, it's an entity powerful enough to destroy the entire world!
From the Megami Tensei Wiki:
So I think Erebus' duty is to contact Nyx so that she can bring about the Fall.
If that's Erebus, then I apologize. I never finished the Answer.
I think 'world-ending entities looming and hovering over Earth' is pretty much just a thing in the Persona universe. Even without Nyx, you have Nyarlathotep hanging around somewhere, and Izanami promised to come back if humanity ever lost sight of the truth again.
I think 'world-ending entities looming and hovering over Earth' is pretty much just a thing in the Persona universe. Even without Nyx, you have Nyarlathotep hanging around somewhere, and Izanami promised to come back if humanity ever lost sight of the truth again.
buddha0991
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There are other powers just as strong, or stronger just looming and hovering, waiting, yet they aren't addressed either.
Yes it was, so let's turn our frowns upside down. And also not turn this thread into that other one. Aeana, I summon thee! Please protect this thread
Your optimism know no limits, Armada. I like that ^_^
The spoiler/spec thread will be fine. No one posts here, but PersonaGAF and we obviously get on fairly well with each other.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Hmmm.
But the game stated that Nyx was "the mother of all shadows", and seeing that shadows are the main antagonists of the Persona series I just thought It should have been addressed more.
Anyways, one thing that has been bothering me, more like a fun trivia really, but in P3 we actually see Nyx in its physical form coming down to the earth, so is it safe to assume that It is inhabiting the same physical realm as humanity in the Persona universe? What I mean is, say if there's an astronaut launching to space in Persona universe, will he can see it with his eyes pounding Minato's great seal? Just a random thought, hahaha.
buddha0991
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Nyarlathotep, the Crawling Chaos, would be above her.
Nyarlathotep is described as the destructive side of Humanity's collective unconscious, and as such, the living embodiment of Mankind's collective evil; every thought, action or feeling that derives in experiencing the desire to bring harm to others or oneself in any form fuels Nyarlathotep's existence. His reason for providing the human race with the means to drive itself to destruction is given as a bet between him and Philemon, who holds that they instead will ascend to a greater destiny.
He is also basically Philemon's opposite, Igor's boss.
He also describes himself as Humanity's Shadow, and controls all the shadow selves seen in Persona 2. He is also responsible for manipulating the whole P4A incident.
On the note of speculation/wishes, I really wish P5 makes more use of phones. Catherine had a really cool text message system, and it'd be neat if P5 cribbed off that or something. Like, selecting your message sentence by sentence. You could send/receive text messages to/from your social links and advance it a bit. And depending on what you send for the S-Link determines how big the boost from it you'd get. I started thinking more about this getting texts from party members in P4G to go to the movies with them. Dunno if it'd balance correctly within the context of time management in the social aspect of the game, though.
I think we pretty much all figure phones will tie in. One of P4's commentaries is how children are often raised by the TV; there's certainly a similar statement to be made about people and their cell phones in the modern era.
And yeah, that stuff would easily tie in to S. Linking.
And yeah, that stuff would easily tie in to S. Linking.
Wait what? You sure?
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Well, considering that the game itself called Nyx as the Mother of All Shadows then it's only natural to think that all shadows came from her, and that she is the ultimate entity in the "world-destroying club" entities of the persona universe. Maybe all Shadows are born from Nyx but it Nyarlathotep is just powerful enough to control them? The game never IIRC actually explained her origin yeah? She's just like, there.
So Erebus = Desire to kill oneself, and Nyarlathotep = Desire to destroy others?
Gahh... elthough probably even the writers of the Persona series themselves are just throwing things out to see what sticks though in the Persona lore, hahaha.
cj_iwakura
Member
Yes, it's all but confirmed.
buddha0991
Member
That was how I interpreted it.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
I personally think that's a bit of a stretch... although I admittedly forgot who exactly said that one sentence in P3.
So if there is ever be an "Ultimate Boss", so to speak, in the Persona universe, it would be Nyarlathotep? Hmm, alright.
Also, IIRC Persona 5's theme would be "Puppeteers". It would be interesting to see how it's being handled.....
If true then that's one of the worst mistakes one can ever make in storyline. Creating boss that can't be defeated.
buddha0991
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Don't know. In the US, the mother of all insert thing here, like, mother of all storms, signifies the grandest, or biggest storms.
Yes, he would basically be the ultimate boss, matched by Philemon, though Crawling Chaos is stronger than him, in that Crawling Chaos directly acts.
It's not needed to actually defeat Nyarlathotep in the traditional sense however. =P
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Never underestimate the power of friendship/love/will/whatever-else-feel-good-emotion my friend!
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
Would love to see Azeroth(nyarlathotep's daddy) be a villain in p5. Someone on atlus forums had this neat little idea about Nebiros being a villain and the concept was very nice.
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