Pete Hines is leaving Bethesda

anthraticus said:
Good fucking riddance.

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Time for Toddler to go next !!

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Come on dude.....this is lewd.
 
He was a dead weight anyway. It's clear from the Starfield release that the Bethesda formula got old and was stuck in the past. Time to update that old formula and innovate.

More of the same doesn't cut it anymore. It's 2023.
 
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gothmog said:
Exactly. He must have pissed off the right people to earn this wonderful retirement. If they vested all of his options to help him go it's probably a good thing for him.
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Or he's retiring because he's 54 and has the opportunity to do what few can, spend time with family and friends and doesn't have to worry about money.
 
Pete was basically a marketing guy. I'm not sure what his creative contributions were. Probably nil. If I were to be cynical (who me?), I'd say I suspect that any of his contributions to the process were probably negative, geared toward making their franchises more appealing to the mainstream.
 
Humdinger said:
Pete was basically a marketing guy. I'm not sure what his creative contributions were. Probably nil. If I were to be cynical (who me?), I'd say I suspect that any of his contributions to the process were probably negative, geared toward making their franchises more appealing to the mainstream.
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If I'm not mistaken, Redfall was initially conceived as a GAAS game (before MS acquisition) due to Pete Hines push for more online GAAS titles being made from Bethesda/Zenimax IP and is the reason the game had to be significantly retooled and modified in the final stages to the half-baked co-op shooter it is today.
 
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Edgelord79 said:
Or he's retiring because he's 54 and has the opportunity to do what few can, spend time with family and friends and doesn't have to worry about money.
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That could be the case. Jim Ryan leaving Sony could also just be retirement as well, but it's okay to speculate.
 
I'd say the knives are coming out since the acquisition is completed. The tweet apologising for no Starfield, the leaked emails and court appearance did enough damage to Hines in MS' eyes. I doubt Hines would have gone today if the CMA were still looking into the ABK acquisition. Based on everything I'd say he was not happy with the fruits of the MS purchase of Bethesda so in all events its the best situation for all parties.
 
clarky said:
Nothing. People on gaf hated the last 2or3 BGS games apparently but this will be painted as a terrible thing and all MS's fault and the beginning of the end and the sky is falling in at Bethesda or something something Starfield.
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Sure. Phil Spencer will do a better job at saving us from the bad Bethesda games.
 
Humdinger said:
Todd has said that ESVI will be his last game.
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So he is with us forever then.

Kurotri said:
He seemingly backtracked on this?
www.gamereactor.eu

Todd Howard on game development: "I want to do it forever"

The Starfield game director has no plans to retire from video games.
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ES6 will come out in 2100 anyway so...

Dick Jones said:
I'd say the knives are coming out since the acquisition is completed. The tweet apologising for no Starfield, the leaked emails and court appearance did enough damage to Hines in MS' eyes. I doubt Hines would have gone today if the CMA were still looking into the ABK acquisition. Based on everything I'd say he was not happy with the fruits of the MS purchase of Bethesda so in all events its the best situation for all parties.
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Yeah, I believe that was the reason.
 
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Reading this thread frantically trying to remember what all those emails said….😳

My only complaint is that he got too woke for me.

I actually wouldn't mind if Sony hired him in some capacity.
 
Humdinger said:
Pete was basically a marketing guy. I'm not sure what his creative contributions were. Probably nil. If I were to be cynical (who me?), I'd say I suspect that any of his contributions to the process were probably negative, geared toward making their franchises more appealing to the mainstream.
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Exactly and there are many examples of that.
 
gothmog said:
That could be the case. Jim Ryan leaving Sony could also just be retirement as well, but it's okay to speculate.
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Jim Ryan is going out with a W. Pete Hinds is leaving on an L.

Speculation around that suggests that Jim is choosing to leave rather than being pushed out or forced out. Not so much with Pete. I think the writing is on the wall with Bethesda and that reflects really poorly on Phil and Microsoft and the 7.5 billion dollars they spent on this.
 
Mibu no ookami said:
Jim Ryan is going out with a W. Pete Hinds is leaving on an L.

Speculation around that suggests that Jim is choosing to leave rather than being pushed out or forced out. Not so much with Pete. I think the writing is on the wall with Bethesda and that reflects really poorly on Phil and Microsoft and the 7.5 billion dollars they spent on this.
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You're right, all of that is speculation.
 
He had a good run, made money by the ton, take that golden leave package and ride off into the sun.
 
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Don't outright dislike him or what he's accomplished at BGS, but I'd be interested in some more interesting ideas and directions with proper support. Good luck to him!
 
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Salty Popsicle said:
If I'm not mistaken, Redfall was initially conceived as a GAAS game (before MS acquisition) due to Pete Hines push for more online GAAS titles being made from Bethesda/Zenimax IP and is the reason the game had to be significantly retooled and modified in the final stages to the half-baked co-op shooter it is today.
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To be fair the GAAS stuff and Fallout 76 likely came from higher up as a way to push for more revenue after games like Dishonored, Wolfenstein all failed to generate significant sales.
 
I've been expecting this literally any day since the Zenimax deal closed in 2021. His position was made largley redundant being part of an even larger group of studios. No doubt his popularity at Bethesda and his closeness with Todd helped justify keeping him around, but no doubt that his salary was significant and his contributions are harder to justify if you zoom out to Xbox Game Studios as a whole, since Zenimax is no longer needing all of these coporate-level positions within their own group.

That's my take.
 
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JohnnyFootball said:
Reading this thread frantically trying to remember what all those emails said….😳

My only complaint is that he got too woke for me.

I actually wouldn't mind if Sony hired him in some capacity.
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I don't think he would go back into a locked platform, not based on his emails and unhappiness with cutting access to more gamers. Likely if he does anything he will create a studio that is multiplatform.
 
Dr. Wilkinson said:
I've been expecting this literally any day since the Zenimax deal closed in 2021. His position was made largley redundant being part of an even larger group of studios. No doubt his popularity at Bethesda and his closeness with Todd helped justify keeping him around, but no doubt that his salary was significant and his contributions are harder to justify if you zoom out to Xbox Game Studios as a whole, since Zenimax is no longer needing all of these coporate-level positions within their own group.

That's my take.
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Yeah, his title was "Head of Publishing", yet they now have the entire Microsoft arm of Xbox to do that and I'm guessing with much more resources behind it.
 
Much sadness, but good luck to him. He was there for the best years of Bethesda so far. At some point, everyone has to pass the torch, but it's never the same.

He was one the faces of Bethesda, the promoter and the guy that helped sell the games. Him
And ole Uncle Jack Trenton were good at what they did.
 
The way pete still tries to defend redfall, calling it fun. then trying to defend starfield for its bad planet exploration design is just not a good look.
Hopefully this is the start of a massive restructuring needed in MS' studios from top to bottom. Really hope MS figure themselves out because many games and studios they have are releasing games on my favorite single player open world RPG with char customization genre, followed by RTS.
 
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